Freshest drum kit packages ???

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by F Major

I think theres a lot of good drums out there like Croup's Deadly/Filthy Drums, Illmind's, M Phazes, etc but its also about using them in the right context musically. If you don't blend the one shots correctly, or use them in patterns that don't work well, it just sounds like crap regardless.

Great point. I have to add that sound selection is also crucial to the kind of music you want to do. If you are doing something that requires a good amount of realism don't go using 808s all over the place. If you are making something super synthetic then BFD isn't the drum choice for that track. Its not that the sounds people use or even the patterns are bad its that people often lack proper sound selection skills.

[StringBean]

When yall buy "drum kits" are you buying pre-made drum kits that you just import and load into your DAW (like pre-made ESX24 kits or Redrum kits), or are you buying collections of samples and creating your own custom drum kits using those samples?

[aproblem]

Originally Posted by PapaSon

Generally, people (even though they charge you for it) don't want to give up good drm sounds, maybe because they are so crucial to a good track.

There was one guy, ideclaremusic.com, who was an amazing producer with awesome audio demos, but when you buy them, the same drms sound like he converted everything to low bit mp3s, I kid u not.

True, Golbaby means well, but honestly the stuff I bought doesn't have the solid, crispy sound I need for hip hop.

Sounds from HD have pretty good demos, but when I bought the sounds I felt like I was cheated- Not even trying to sound good...
I haven't tried Scirocco's stuff.


Try the free packs from traumah, the free Boi1 da pack

sounds like you want stuff that has been pre-mixed/mastered?

[Boogaju]

I added some organic snare drum samples and a collection of short fx, clicks and glitches to the popular minipack series: all these packs are donationware (1 euro or more) so for a few bucks you can get plenty of original samples and create some innovative drum kits.


glitch pack | loops de la crème


snare pack | loops de la crème

[lilshamsdabaron]

Illmind's kit is good if your adding layers, M-Phazes is good if you just want something quick & don't want to layer... both kits will really just make you sound like their protege' though.. (unless you stack well)... I'm more into the making your own drums thing, but I do use Deadly Drums in the process of creating them often... (you don't really need to stack too much on those)... With those three, some breaks, and a good ear, your good!!!

(all these kits are processed drum break samples, so you can make them yourself)

[mgthefuture]

My Tastes have evolved lately...so it really depends on what I'm doing.

I find that SS Urban Electro paired with Prime loops fits any Dub Step/House/Pop bill, especially in conjunction with nexus style synths.

Hit Kit though it's my opinion that the sounds are a bit "dated" for "hip hop" and where it's headed now (rap), i find that its has plenty of sounds that many other kits miss the bill on, that help fill out productions and experimentation with creating sounds. Especially at such a good quality.

I've been searching High and Low for a decent "Timbo/Danja" style pop/dance kits similar to "Future Sex Love Sounds" and THA LOOPs (former cats from Modern Beats) nailed it. I bought every single shot kit on that site...very inspirational when i feel like some "bounce".

If you need some REAL DRUMS in your productions, where it be like hip hop or pop, Mike Chav kicked serious butt putting together Urban Arsenal... its not as many sounds as you would like in a kit, but it covers the basics, and it fits in very well with whatever I'm doing. And I love adding FX to them, because it's generally all i need to do to find a texture i like.

And if you do dirty south beats, or 808 style tracks... Get his 808 library, its just kicks and booms...but its very creative and useful...helps creating a distinct flavor to a saturated trend!!!

Besides that Boss Loops make the best south construction kits, just chop up or isolate the single shots, and you're in business.

For Breaks...Producer's Choice "Tape Breaks" belongs in every ITB home..it just adds character, and gives you the meat and potatoes of anything hip hop...in my opinion.


Those are quality kits...that people took time to process ^^

Outside of that Producers Choice put ALL of Johnny Julianos kits in one bundle...so if you on that vibe..its a good look

Boi 1da made a big mistake by letting his personal collection out for a moment, but some of those links are still active...and I use those like i use EQ....very good, especially if you deal with rappers looking for a "right now" sound. You can't do too much extra processing to them...but you can layer your own from his individual hits...or keep them hitting like they are. Since i use FL studio most of the time, that works for what i do.

Lex Luger had a kit on soundclick, if you can find that....you have the grape jelly of anything he's doing (and everyone else).


I can keep going...

[KT1]

AH yes! the continual search for the ultimate drums!

What you need to ask yourself is this:

1) What am i looking for in my drums? Do i want a vinyl classic hip hop boom bap style? Or electronic banging 808's? perhaps i want an overt synth sound like white noise? What kind of drum indeed?!

2) Now i know what type of drums i want - do i want them processed? Am i the kind of guy that likes to get in and comp/distort my drums to perfection!? Do i want layered drums that knock straight away?

3) Do i want to be like everyone else? It's no biggie - I'm super talented and can use sounds everyone knows but still rock it my way? I want to be original..

Ok so the whole third person joke about was meant in good fun but seriously - understanding what you want will give you an answer...so here it is!

If you want the classic sound..Sample from vinyl it's great! You could also make your own classic breaks and treat them with a nice drum vst like addictive or BFD. But the dirt is in the sample in my opinion!

If you want nice sounding processed stuff - well the sonic specialists and acoustic blends kits from sounds in HD sound good - If you want a nice synth sounding - make it on a synth!! Or you could just cop a nice goldbaby 808/909. To be honest loads available..you could bite one from a CD..who said that!? not me..

Or you could go the whole hog (MY FAV) design drums for your sound your purpose. You could sample some single hits or record some drums..have em just how you like em..

This is a never ending quest. Find out what you want the go get! God bless

[Paul Greenway]

sonic specialists!

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by KT1

AH yes! the continual search for the ultimate drums!

What you need to ask yourself is this:

1) What am i looking for in my drums? Do i want a vinyl classic hip hop boom bap style? Or electronic banging 808's? perhaps i want an overt synth sound like white noise? What kind of drum indeed?!

2) Now i know what type of drums i want - do i want them processed? Am i the kind of guy that likes to get in and comp/distort my drums to perfection!? Do i want layered drums that knock straight away?

3) Do i want to be like everyone else? It's no biggie - I'm super talented and can use sounds everyone knows but still rock it my way? I want to be original..

Ok so the whole third person joke about was meant in good fun but seriously - understanding what you want will give you an answer...so here it is!

If you want the classic sound..Sample from vinyl it's great! You could also make your own classic breaks and treat them with a nice drum vst like addictive or BFD. But the dirt is in the sample in my opinion!

If you want nice sounding processed stuff - well the sonic specialists and acoustic blends kits from sounds in HD sound good - If you want a nice synth sounding - make it on a synth!! Or you could just cop a nice goldbaby 808/909. To be honest loads available..you could bite one from a CD..who said that!? not me..

Or you could go the whole hog (MY FAV) design drums for your sound your purpose. You could sample some single hits or record some drums..have em just how you like em..

This is a never ending quest. Find out what you want the go get! God bless

Man these things took me so long to really figure out! So much of what makes a great drum sound depends on what you are looking for. Everyone isn't making the same music so not everyone will have the same needs. Even in something like hip hop the variety in styles are so varied that its a bit wild. A mainstream dude wouldn't likely use the same methods an underground dude would and a southern mixtape kinda guy isn't going to use the same kinda sounds that would work for a Nikki Minaj record.

[KT1]

Exactly. Best thing in my opinion is making your own kits. People start to recognise.

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[Hobbs_Won]

Multi-sampled drums?

I can't tell... sounds like he just picked some one shots and set velocity. The kick sounds like it's at the ceiling on every hit..

But damn... these drums go HARD... I don't think anybody does drums better right now. Black Milk crushin em all..

[mgthefuture]

Originally Posted by Hobbs_Won

Multi-sampled drums?

I can't tell... sounds like he just picked some one shots and set velocity. The kick sounds like it's at the ceiling on every hit..

[MIDIchlorian]

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It's really crazy to me SFS did not get a mention in this thread.

Btw I didn't even know Illmind made kits now, lots of his older stuff rocked Soundsforsamplers kits. He was even a featured user on the site.
Link: http://www.akaimpc.com/illmind.html

[Abdul-Kadir]

Originally Posted by Petros

What are the most recent/dopest drum kit bundles that you personally like and why? Also when it comes to vintage, hard-like, raw, boom-bap, golden-era drum kits? Who's got the best bundle nowadays???

Magic Theater Audio High End Drums and Raw Vinyl Drums Hits

Magic Theater Audio

Croup Filthy Drums

Authentic Hip Hop Drums - Rawbeatz.com

Mike Chav The Drum Arsenal Volume One

Mike Chav — The Drum Arsenal Vol. 1: Swiss Army Kit

Sounds In HD Acoustic Blends 1 and 2

Sounds in HD

[TYPHY]

Originally Posted by David Ray

Whichever drum vst I'm using at that time: idrum, battery, or maschine. Almost never after it leaves the instrument. For whatever reason I tend to tune more often on maschine- maybe just cuz it's more fun to use the tactile controls with my eyes closed.

So you tune a kick sample? Can you explain to me why you would do this? This got me curious, I need to learn! Haha. I also have Maschine, do you use the tune knob on page 2 of the sampler? Since it only tunes by increments of 1.. isn't this the same as moving the sample up/down 1 semitone in pad mode?

So you just move it up or down to a tone you like it at?

Or are there more specific instincts?

[KT1]

One point - MG, I have to say that i like a lot of your posts. Even when i dont agree i generally think you do a good job of communicating your point of view.

BUT DUDE! Boi1Da kit i heard was mastered in the most ERRR disgusting way. Basically i want it really loud so i'm just gonna go nuts with a limiter in FL and SMASH transients to muck - They CLIP so badly i want to vomit! NOT FOR ME THANKS!

Then again i did hear a little beat Lago made with them and it did sound good in the context of the mix - I can defo see why some people will use them - But for me transients are drums..end of..you loose them you loose all ability to shape your drum sound..I dont want to hear a KNOCK BOOM i want to feel it.

Just my 2 cents and 3 pennies.


FYI - I have those Boi 1 da drums on one of my zillions of glyphs..If anyone wants i can upload tonight.

God bless

[mgthefuture]

Originally Posted by KT1

One point - MG, I have to say that i like a lot of your posts. Even when i dont agree i generally think you do a good job of communicating your point of view.

BUT DUDE! Boi1Da kit i heard was mastered in the most ERRR disgusting way. Basically i want it really loud so i'm just gonna go nuts with a limiter in FL and SMASH transients to muck - They CLIP so badly i want to vomit! NOT FOR ME THANKS!

Then again i did hear a little beat Lago made with them and it did sound good in the context of the mix - I can defo see why some people will use them - But for me transients are drums..end of..you loose them you loose all ability to shape your drum sound..I dont want to hear a KNOCK BOOM i want to feel it.

Just my 2 cents and 3 pennies.


FYI - I have those Boi 1 da drums on one of my zillions of glyphs..If anyone wants i can upload tonight.

God bless

I agree, I sorted through them and put them in categories... from stacks, and individuals...that helped.

I skip alot of his stacks cuz they are indeed over processed...he uses Soundgoodizer to mold his sounds together...and i hate the way it sounds when i use it...so more power to him.

But the sounds and textures he has "fit" into what the type of people i make music for.

It's easy to make a Drake'ish beat with Drake's producer's drums.

It's easy to do a wayne/birdman beat with that guy's drums.

In my recent reel, the first 2, i used his drums for my own sound..and it works.

However, alot of his sounds don't.

But for cats who can't find good drums, don't create drums, or simply haven't collected them as long as we have...i think its a good kit to have up your sleeve to get started immediately.

[SoUgly]

In the past what worked for me is that, download as many kits you come across and start making your own kits to taste, so you have some thing to fall back to. Edit the samples, layer them, EQ them, Etc.

[KT1]

Originally Posted by mgthefuture

But for cats who can't find good drums, don't create drums, or simply haven't collected them as long as we have...i think its a good kit to have up your sleeve to get started immediately.

Yup, i can't deny that. It is a great way to get going and get the vibe of big processed drums! that's for sure. Of the ones i checked and spectrum analysed they were ruined. A spealer will move if it has loads of volume but we could get a sub to crack cement if you leave a good engineer with transients.

I don't deny they are a good start for newbies and that some single hits/samples can be usable. I was more expressing my point of view.

DAMN!!! I cant wait to show y'all the drums for the Icki project - y'all are gon flip.

Bless

[CJ1973]

Originally Posted by TYPHY

So you tune a kick sample? Can you explain to me why you would do this? This got me curious, I need to learn! Haha. I also have Maschine, do you use the tune knob on page 2 of the sampler? Since it only tunes by increments of 1.. isn't this the same as moving the sample up/down 1 semitone in pad mode?

So you just move it up or down to a tone you like it at?

Or are there more specific instincts?

My $0.02= join a band and understand how music and instruments work together.
Then watch the drummer before you rehearse or gig and see what goes on in the tuning department. You will see a light bulb go off! )

[mgthefuture]

Originally Posted by KT1

I don't deny they are a good start for newbies and that some single hits/samples can be usable. I was more expressing my point of view.

DAMN!!! I cant wait to show y'all the drums for the Icki project - y'all are gon flip.

Bless

I dig it.

But you keep holding out.

[Hobbs_Won]

Traumah Drums are decent drums

but LOL @ this....

these dudes are idiots



Jesus......

[Audio Child]

KT1

DAMN!!! I cant wait to show y'all the drums for the Icki project - y'all are gon flip.

Where did that slang come from ?
Aint you from tha Uk lol

[KT1]

Haha I am from London! But that was stated in us accent lol. Don't ask...

Mg end of year first single ... A couple of peeps on here have had a listen...smoking ..story etc.

They are acoustic set programmed with a live drum feel. Style is a mixture..

But holding out but being patient. I have just completed a remix which I should be able to show you soon..its not my usual style but the drums are there ..so not long.

And for the record that comment was meant in good fun - .

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[RJSonics]

I actually just picked up a couple of these iStandard kits - this basically blows everything out of the water! Too many producer sound kits to choose from - all the real deal - crazy. Shop

[Chris Lago]

Originally Posted by RJSonics

I actually just picked up a couple of these iStandard kits - this basically blows everything out of the water! Too many producer sound kits to choose from - all the real deal - crazy. Shop

I have a feeling you work for them

[eldorado_p]

Originally Posted by RJSonics

I actually just picked up a couple of these iStandard kits - this basically blows everything out of the water! Too many producer sound kits to choose from - all the real deal - crazy. Shop

Hmmmn.... RJsonics=Rythm J from iStandard??? At least change your name pimp

[Reggmail]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

I have a feeling you work for them

Chris Lago, Chris you da man yo...Lol.

Here is your mission, Chris please expose all of the ( undercover infiltrators.)
You can't pull one over on him so beware Job well done Chris..Lol.

Good sugestions on this thread, It's a drum gumbo out there, pick, chose, mix, layer, tune then use your set that fits the track.
Save it to create your own pack, you'll be surprised at how many you will accumulate over the years. ( process and resample what you have, you may not need another unless it's something very unique to add to your arsenal.)
& blessings.

[drethe5th]

I use alot of Big Fish, including RIG.

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[MIDIchlorian]

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