SP 1200 vs Battery 3 emulation comparison part I
View Poll Results: spot the real sp
file #1 = real sp
4 Votes - 10.53%
file #2 = real sp
23 Votes - 60.53%
both files = real sp
3 Votes - 7.89%
both files = battery emulation
8 Votes - 21.05%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

Old 10th August 2011
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SP 1200 vs Battery 3 emulation comparison part I

first off... thanks to dor and tvent for the sp 1200 files!

it took a while but here's the first round.

it's just a drum loop pitched down on both the sp 1200 and battery 3 with sp emulation on.
no further processing just sampled and pitched.

curious to see the poll results.

thanks.
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Old 10th August 2011
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2... is the SP...
Old 10th August 2011
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2... is the SP...
I think the same.
Old 10th August 2011
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im gona say both were the battery emulation
Old 10th August 2011
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I beleive the 2 is the 1200 aswell.

Jus wondering was battery tracked with the same chain as the 1200 or is it an export itb?

Because both files sound pretty close... it's just that #2 have more life to it, just like most tracked out audio, #1 sound like an export, a bit flat.
Old 10th August 2011
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I can't tell the difference. :-(

Maybe my ears aren't as good.

I'm going to have to choose the 3rd and 4th option.
Old 10th August 2011
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lol.... I can't tell... the difference here is so trivial
Old 10th August 2011
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I'd love to hear this with something besides a drum loop, like a stab or a full soul loop
Old 10th August 2011
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Soul loop huh...

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Old 11th August 2011
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What kind of speakers are those that can't tell the difference listening on? Personally, I could hear the difference on laptop speakers, but with headphones on it was way obvious.
Old 11th August 2011
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What kind of speakers are those that can't tell the difference listening on? Personally, I could hear the difference on laptop speakers, but with headphones on it was way obvious.
I'm listening on my JBL Monitors and I played both like 5 times each and couldn't hear a difference. Maybe I should take a run on my headphones..
Old 11th August 2011
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Hard to tell to me too but #1 has little more highs in it to me so I thought that was battery and #2was the sp. But they sound VERY close IMO
Old 11th August 2011
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listened again on my headphones (ATH-M50).....nope
Old 11th August 2011
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#1 is the SP


I love these test, let's you see if the fanboys are really about that life
Old 11th August 2011
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I haven't used either so I obviously am not qualified to guess. I don't know how to describe it but the 2nd has a bit more "character" to it, sounds a bit "grainy" but in a good way (that's not really the right word). It seems slightly punchier.

At the end of the day, they are close enough for me not to care and use what I prefer.
Old 11th August 2011
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Your half steppin..... post a loop and pitch it......gritty.........
Old 11th August 2011
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these threads are only good for people who don't have an SP to calm themselves down if people can't guess it.

make music
Old 11th August 2011
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Your half steppin..... post a loop and pitch it......gritty.........
obviously the loops ARE pitched.
Old 11th August 2011
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I was going to say no.1 is the SP because of the presence of a tiny amount of extra bass. But, I change my mind. I think they're similar enough to have come from the same device. Further, everything I know about the SP sound (though I've never owned one) tells me that the distortion effect should be more extreme / obvious than that. Of course I could be wrong but it is my gut feeling that both of these clips came from Battery.

Last edited by Ijustmake-Beats; 11th August 2011 at 12:07 PM.. Reason: changed my mind about the vote
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guys, if you're commenting please also enter the poll.
Old 11th August 2011
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guys, if you're commenting please also enter the poll.
Disclose the answers (might PM me) ! SP is 2 to me (hint - aliasing when repitched and LESS BASS)
Old 11th August 2011
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The second to the last time the loop plays (in #2), the way the loop breaks up is pretty distinctive... At least from my experience

It also sounds like when Dor sampled the loop into his SP, he didn't hit or Clip the AD that hard...

How was the loop sampled into Battery?

If the Emulation of the SP in Battery is that unnoticeable pitching a non percussive sound would be really telling about how close the Emulation actually is...

If the two were that close I don't think companies like Goldbaby would offer those Kits...

My 2 cents... I maybe wrong, so I digress...

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Disclose the answers (might PM me) ! SP is 2 to me (hint - aliasing when repitched and LESS BASS)
Old 11th August 2011
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Bottom line, I could and would use either.

If however, number 2 turns out to be Battery, my hats off to NI as the sample provided was much smoother and a touch more pleasant to the ear all round.

Listening on ATH-M50's

Beacause I am the impressionable type, I selected 2 as the sp as its my understanding that these things are magical.
Old 11th August 2011
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Bottom line, I could and would use either.

If however, number 2 turns out to be Battery, my hats off to NI as the sample provided was much smoother and a touch more pleasant to the ear all round.

Listening on ATH-M50's

Beacause I am the impressionable type, I selected 2 as the sp as its my understanding that these things are magical.
If #2 is Battery, I'm cancelling my plans of saving for an SP and getting Battery.
Old 11th August 2011
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#2 Is SP.....it sounds mutch dirtyer (in a good way).
While #1 sounds too inocent/polite.
Old 11th August 2011
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I beleive the 2 is the 1200 aswell.

Jus wondering was battery tracked with the same chain as the 1200 or is it an export itb?

Because both files sound pretty close... it's just that #2 have more life to it, just like most tracked out audio, #1 sound like an export, a bit flat.


It's going to get real uncomfortable for you if battery is #2.
Old 11th August 2011
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I'm going with 2.

I've not heard an original sp1200 but my thinking is that number 2 seems to get grittier quicker
Old 11th August 2011
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Yes so uncomfortable...i ma loose all my gs cred...i guess the fanboy term was for me awell...do you have something against me dude?
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It's going to get real uncomfortable for you if battery is #2.


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Old 11th August 2011
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Yes so uncomfortable...i ma loose all my gs cred...i guess the fanboy term was for me awell...do you have something against me dude?



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Fanboy was for the fanboys...

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Old 11th August 2011
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It also sounds like when Dor sampled the loop into his SP, he didn't hit or Clip the AD that hard...
Yep, BYD specifically asked that I not hit the input too hard.

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