sampling..which way to really go??

Brandino221 · 14th March 2006, 11:01 PM

ok, I been thinking..I need to get a sampler. I run Logic 7 pro with a dual 2.0 G5.
Now..I been thinking to get a software or hardware sampler. I never really messed with software samplers so I really don't know what some of the good ones are out there....+ how they sound.

**TonyBelmont** · 14th March 2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandino221

ok, I been thinking..I need to get a sampler. I run Logic 7 pro with a dual 2.0 G5.
Now..I been thinking to get a software or hardware sampler. I never really messed with software samplers so I really don't know what some of the good ones are out there....+ how they sound.

You already have EXS24, so i would start with that and if you don't like it try Kontakt2...

mammath · 15th March 2006, 12:03 AM

Be a little more specific. Do you need a "sampler", or a "rompler" (which is a sample player)?

For romplers, as Tony has already mentioned, kontakt2 is brilliant (especially if you're a tweaker and script writer). Steinberg's Halion3 is equally wonderful if you just need a rompler with tweaking functions.

One VERY powerful option (PC platform), is GigaStudio 3. Enormous library and extremely quality. It has the lowest latency of any sampler but your computer needs to be tweaked to standards, as it operates at the kernel level. Best of all, you can sample or 'record sound' with it. Gigastudio is used by composers such as Hans Zimmer and the like. To be honest, it may be a bit much for you, if your needs are simple. But it is indeed a monster!

http://www.tascamgiga.com/

Fruityloops' Direct Wave is another that DOES "sample" and be can used to do "automatic sampling of VSTi plugins". Though it isn't yet available as a separate VST plugin, it CAN be routed through Rewire.

http://www.flstudio.com/English/frames.html

One more, is Skylife's SampleRobot. It covers your traditional sampling needs AND can be used to 'record' your hardware synths (with velocity switching and all). You basically do nothing. It does the "automatic sampling of VSTi plugins" as well, obviously. This function comes in handy if you use softsynths that are resource hogs. Instead of bouncing, you can have that patch at your disposal (whatever Multi-sample format you require) whenever you need it.

http://www.samplerobot.com/was_b.htm

Ok, that was the long answer. Short answer.......I echo Tony's recommendations: if you don't fancy EXS24, kontakt 2 or Halion3.

Ghost Logic · 15th March 2006, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandino221

ok, I been thinking..I need to get a sampler. I run Logic 7 pro with a dual 2.0 G5.
Now..I been thinking to get a software or hardware sampler. I never really messed with software samplers so I really don't know what some of the good ones are out there....+ how they sound.

As mentioned before--EXS-24, one of the best software samplers out there is already built in to Logic (one of THE reasons to use Logic if you making beats!)--we have Kontakt 2 and a hardware EMU ultra as well but we prefer to use the EXS-24, its fully integrated into Logic and is just so convenient and simple to use--the phat button is super phat too.

djdoublec · 15th March 2006, 06:22 AM

EXS24 definitely...

Methlab · 15th March 2006, 04:07 PM

even though its hugely popular for drums, Battery 2 is an awesome sampler. Especially if you come from the MPC. Between that and kontakt 2, you would be set honestly.

Agli · 15th March 2006, 09:01 PM

The EXS24 that you allready have

It's easy to work with and has good features. Great software sampler.

Akai S-series rackmount samplers

EMU

Brandino221 · 15th March 2006, 09:07 PM

how do I get audio samples into the EXS24?

yea, I was also thinking about getting an s6000 and maybe an mpc 2500 this year as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methlab

even though its hugely popular for drums, Battery 2 is an awesome sampler. Especially if you come from the MPC. Between that and kontakt 2, you would be set honestly.

So Battery is the bomb huh? I'll check that out too.

jlotto · 15th March 2006, 10:38 PM

does battery 2 have a sequencer? can u play full stereo samples loops thru it? ie rex files or giga

Methlab · 15th March 2006, 10:45 PM

battery does not have a sequencer..i am not sure if you can play rex files thru it either. kontakt can play any files..but both programs need a host for sequencing.

Cubase plus battery and kontakt is a really nice beat making setup.

chrisma · 15th March 2006, 11:18 PM

You might wanna checkout the new EMU Emulator X2. Looks like it's a beast for chop'n up samples/loops (Twistaloop) and it's going to include a automated sampling app (synthswipe).

Namm video:
http://www.onebluemonkey.com/WinterN...61.asp?id=444#

EMU
http://www.emu.com

Igotsoul4u · 16th March 2006, 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djdoublec

EXS24 definitely...

I do not like the exs24. Setting up kits and instruments is a pain in the ass on the exs24. I could definetly be doing it wrong or the long way, but i don't so. Kontakt is way better. As far as the hardware vs software thing, the software stuff that is sample based stuff sounds so much better the hardware. Nothing hardware based beats trilogy. I just picked up atmosphere and am loving it. If you do anything with film it is perfect. Collosus is sick and can easily replace a motif. Anybody want to buy mine?

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Brandino221 Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central FL. Londrina, Curitiba, PR, Brasil. Posts: 436	sampling..which way to really go?? ok, I been thinking..I need to get a sampler. I run Logic 7 pro with a dual 2.0 G5. Now..I been thinking to get a software or hardware sampler. I never really messed with software samplers so I really don't know what some of the good ones are out there....+ how they sound. __________________ Antonio

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chrisma Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 71	You might wanna checkout the new EMU Emulator X2. Looks like it's a beast for chop'n up samples/loops (Twistaloop) and it's going to include a automated sampling app (synthswipe). Namm video: http://www.onebluemonkey.com/WinterN...61.asp?id=444# EMU http://www.emu.com __________________ Hip-Hop, Pop, R&B, Neo-Soul ~ Urban-Gospel Music Production http://www.chrismaproductions.com/ http://www.myspace.com/chrismaproductions

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15th March 2006, 12:03 AM	#3
mammath Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 54	Be a little more specific. Do you need a "sampler", or a "rompler" (which is a sample player)? For romplers, as Tony has already mentioned, kontakt2 is brilliant (especially if you're a tweaker and script writer). Steinberg's Halion3 is equally wonderful if you just need a rompler with tweaking functions. One VERY powerful option (PC platform), is GigaStudio 3. Enormous library and extremely quality. It has the lowest latency of any sampler but your computer needs to be tweaked to standards, as it operates at the kernel level. Best of all, you can sample or 'record sound' with it. Gigastudio is used by composers such as Hans Zimmer and the like. To be honest, it may be a bit much for you, if your needs are simple. But it is indeed a monster! http://www.tascamgiga.com/ Fruityloops' Direct Wave is another that DOES "sample" and be can used to do "automatic sampling of VSTi plugins". Though it isn't yet available as a separate VST plugin, it CAN be routed through Rewire. http://www.flstudio.com/English/frames.html One more, is Skylife's SampleRobot. It covers your traditional sampling needs AND can be used to 'record' your hardware synths (with velocity switching and all). You basically do nothing. It does the "automatic sampling of VSTi plugins" as well, obviously. This function comes in handy if you use softsynths that are resource hogs. Instead of bouncing, you can have that patch at your disposal (whatever Multi-sample format you require) whenever you need it. http://www.samplerobot.com/was_b.htm Ok, that was the long answer. Short answer.......I echo Tony's recommendations: if you don't fancy EXS24, kontakt 2 or Halion3.

15th March 2006, 04:07 PM	#6
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,421	even though its hugely popular for drums, Battery 2 is an awesome sampler. Especially if you come from the MPC. Between that and kontakt 2, you would be set honestly.

15th March 2006, 09:01 PM	#7
Agli Gear maniac Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 260	The EXS24 that you allready have It's easy to work with and has good features. Great software sampler. Akai S-series rackmount samplers EMU

15th March 2006, 10:38 PM	#9
jlotto Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gotham City Posts: 640	does battery 2 have a sequencer? can u play full stereo samples loops thru it? ie rex files or giga

15th March 2006, 10:45 PM	#10
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,421	battery does not have a sequencer..i am not sure if you can play rex files thru it either. kontakt can play any files..but both programs need a host for sequencing. Cubase plus battery and kontakt is a really nice beat making setup.