What piano should I spend all my money on?

tone4407 · 7th March 2006, 08:21 AM

Its time for some new piano sounds. What workstations or soft synths do you guys have luck with?

I've been reading up on Ivory and it seems to have some quality sampling, but is it suitable for hip hop? All the demos sound almost too perfect if that makes any sense. I need some grit to my keys if ya know what I'm mean.

What about a workstation such as the Motif? How are the keys on this bad boy? I've used the Triton before and its pretty decent, but I think I've heard it used a couple too many times in popular music.

I'm looking for some heavy, hard keys...something that Scarface, Dre, or Mike Dean might use.

The_Phoenix · 7th March 2006, 09:59 AM

The motif, kurzweil and fantom workstaion have nice sounding keys-if your want to go hardward.

blayz2002 · 7th March 2006, 10:29 AM

If you want grit in your keys ...then run them through a tube pre, and drive the inputs for some distortion. Thats where the grit comes from. Or even down sample it once it's in your daw, if you think how some of these piano's are recorded and treated, I'm sure they all start out pristine, and then get mangled along the way with production and re sampling which is probably what you hearing on hip hop tracks.

If you listen to Alicia Keys 'If I ain't got you' (that's pretty prisitine sounding) and then 'Girfiend' (that's a sample and sounds real raw and gritty)

blaugruen7 · 7th March 2006, 10:32 AM

that one:

Dave Martin · 7th March 2006, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaugruen7

that one:

I dunno... the Bosendorfer Imperial would take up a lot of room in the average bedroom... I'd probably settle for a Steinway B.

tone4407 · 7th March 2006, 05:26 PM

Thanks for the recommendations guys. Any more?

borau · 7th March 2006, 05:45 PM

Yeah,
Don't waste my time opening this thread by writing PIANO when you mean lame ass sample synth.

makoto · 7th March 2006, 05:59 PM

I dunno... the Bosendorfer Imperial would take up a lot of room in the average bedroom... I'd probably settle for a Steinway B.

Dave Martin

--------------------------

Yeah, but what a line "Want to come up to my bedroom and see my Bosendorfer?"

If she does't know what that means and follows you, well you got it made.
And if she does know what that means and follows you, well you still got it made!

Makoto

ILL · 7th March 2006, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone4407

Thanks for the recommendations guys. Any more?

Ivory or Akoustik Piano are going to give you FAR more realistic sounds and endless possibility for editing but a motif/fantom/triton is going to sound radio ready right now.

EDIT: I forgot about the K2600, awesome sounds on that one !

cynic · 7th March 2006, 06:39 PM

What about a nord stage? :)

tone4407 · 7th March 2006, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borau

Yeah,
Don't waste my time opening this thread by writing PIANO when you mean lame ass sample synth.

It's a good thing you wasted your precious time replying.

borau · 8th March 2006, 03:20 AM

you didn't get it, did ya?

Ten years ago people bought pianos because they looked good in their livingrooms.
Now they don't think it loooks good anymore, that means people ARE GIVING PIANOS AWAY. You need transport and a $150 tune up.

Voila, you've got a real piano, and don't need to use all youre precious money to buy a sucky looser workstation triton synth copy of the real thing.

You got 4 square feet and two decent mics?

You do the math.

And be f'ing grateful.

good luck.

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7th March 2006, 08:21 AM	#1
tone4407 Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 176	What piano should I spend all my money on? Its time for some new piano sounds. What workstations or soft synths do you guys have luck with? I've been reading up on Ivory and it seems to have some quality sampling, but is it suitable for hip hop? All the demos sound almost too perfect if that makes any sense. I need some grit to my keys if ya know what I'm mean. What about a workstation such as the Motif? How are the keys on this bad boy? I've used the Triton before and its pretty decent, but I think I've heard it used a couple too many times in popular music. I'm looking for some heavy, hard keys...something that Scarface, Dre, or Mike Dean might use.

7th March 2006, 10:29 AM	#3
blayz2002 Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London UK Posts: 880	If you want grit in your keys ...then run them through a tube pre, and drive the inputs for some distortion. Thats where the grit comes from. Or even down sample it once it's in your daw, if you think how some of these piano's are recorded and treated, I'm sure they all start out pristine, and then get mangled along the way with production and re sampling which is probably what you hearing on hip hop tracks. If you listen to Alicia Keys 'If I ain't got you' (that's pretty prisitine sounding) and then 'Girfiend' (that's a sample and sounds real raw and gritty) __________________ "This is what I love about mixing though ...it's never the same twice"!

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cynic Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san jose, califas Posts: 1,953	What about a nord stage? :) __________________ damaged goods - beyond repair, cd out now damaged goods - myspace page flying brick records clout online

7th March 2006, 09:59 AM	#2
The_Phoenix Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 534	The motif, kurzweil and fantom workstaion have nice sounding keys-if your want to go hardward.

7th March 2006, 05:26 PM	#6
tone4407 Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 176	Thanks for the recommendations guys. Any more?

7th March 2006, 05:45 PM	#7
borau Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 376	Yeah, Don't waste my time opening this thread by writing PIANO when you mean lame ass sample synth.

7th March 2006, 05:59 PM	#8
makoto Gear maniac Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 206	I dunno... the Bosendorfer Imperial would take up a lot of room in the average bedroom... I'd probably settle for a Steinway B. Dave Martin -------------------------- Yeah, but what a line "Want to come up to my bedroom and see my Bosendorfer?" If she does't know what that means and follows you, well you got it made. And if she does know what that means and follows you, well you still got it made! Makoto

8th March 2006, 03:20 AM	#12
borau Gear addict Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 376	you didn't get it, did ya? Ten years ago people bought pianos because they looked good in their livingrooms. Now they don't think it loooks good anymore, that means people ARE GIVING PIANOS AWAY. You need transport and a $150 tune up. Voila, you've got a real piano, and don't need to use all youre precious money to buy a sucky looser workstation triton synth copy of the real thing. You got 4 square feet and two decent mics? You do the math. And be f'ing grateful. good luck.

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