Makin necks snap with snares

Quad · 21st January 2006, 03:50 PM

Can anyone tell me how to make the snares snap and pop similar to Dre's on Reason 3.0?

Offender · 21st January 2006, 05:42 PM

I could not make anything sound half way as good as Dres snares on Reason. If you have Cubase with some decent plugins...then you'd have more of a chance. But truely, hardware would be better. He does record to tape...so I've heard.

Methlab · 21st January 2006, 09:00 PM

buy an SSL like Dre has. It's tough to get that sound without it...there is a little drum collection out called the Dre SSL series..maybe those are good drums..someone could pipe in who has them and say what they think.

PhonoquO · 21st January 2006, 09:14 PM

i've heard those samples, and they are NOT good in my opinion. Whose to say whether or not they are really ssl processed. If u don't have any analog outboard to process the samples, i would say cop a 1/4" reel to reel recorder (or even a decent cassette recorder for that matter) and record your individual samples to tape running hot, then record off the tape back into your computer, will add alot of life to the digital.

soundofmind · 21st January 2006, 11:01 PM

compression, eq, reverb

cdog · 21st January 2006, 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methlab

buy an SSL like Dre has. It's tough to get that sound without it...

Oh yeah, you also need a 2" 8 track Studer, 5 full racks of 1176s, a dozen TC6000s, at least one u47, a 2' bong, and also, you have to actually BE Dre himself.

In fact, if there wasn't Dre, how would anyone have ever made hiphop?

It probably would have shriveled up and died cause no one could get a good snare sound.

The sheep mentality in this forum has reached a state of self-parody.

Methlab · 21st January 2006, 11:35 PM

yeah, Im a sheep because the guy asked how Dre got his sounds and I told him?? That makes no sense at all. If you can make drums as hot as Dre's using Reason and no hardware please let us know.

The SSL is a valuable board for reasons such as making drums "pop". Any interview with Dre shows how much he uses the SSL for his sounds. I am just passing along the info I read him say..I don't think I need to be insulted for that.

PhonoquO · 21st January 2006, 11:51 PM

ur first obstacle in getting a big drum sound is going to be reason itself. I don't like to knock other programs, but honestly, i used reason for about 1 year and could never understand why my tracks sounded so weak. As soon as i changed up to cubase with plugins, there was no turning back. Although reason has improved to include better compression and a limiter, it still has that constrained muffled sound. The cheap versions of cubase sx are really quite cheap and don't lose too much functionality. Check out the demos, u won't be dissapointed. There are alot of good freeware plugins out there ( do some research ) and there's the other route. Reason's biggest flaw besides the sound quality, is that u can't even record audio into it, which forces you to rewire. Fruity loops is also a good option and it sounds good.

peace

AnalogBob · 21st January 2006, 11:53 PM

Making stuff like Dre In Reason....Good luck....you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear..

farjedi · 22nd January 2006, 12:19 AM

Try picking sounds that pop in the first place?

Quad · 22nd January 2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnalogBob

Making stuff like Dre In Reason....Good luck....you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear..

When it comes to kicks and 808's, i can make it crank...however, the idea is to make sumthin out of nuthin and better myself with whut i have. so when i pick up a akai i have the mentality to GET IT DONE. I made myself use fl studio for 2 yrs until i produced sumthin cats around me like and then i went out and copped shit like a yamaha motif es rack, mics, better software, its a learning thing, jus got frustrated and needed sum help, thanks to u and the rest tho.

Sirocco · 23rd January 2006, 04:11 AM

layer rims that snap and flam the rims with some fluxuant in volumes

djui5 · 23rd January 2006, 04:49 AM

You need Dre's finger pounding on an MPC...that's how.

theblotted · 25th January 2006, 09:46 PM

1) good samples to start with;
2) run snare to Reason's compressor;
3) try highest ratio, slowest attack and fastest release, adjust threshold to taste

that should start you off somewhere. rewire it to your fav DAW for more processing; then add outboard for even more.

adjust sluttiness to taste

Igotsoul4u · 26th January 2006, 02:33 AM

I usually use some sort of 1176 emulation (in protools) I set the the ration to 4 and make the attack around noon and the release around on the faster side, but not to fast. I usually like a gain ruduction of about -4db. This is my general starting point.

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25th January 2006, 09:46 PM	#14
theblotted Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,841	1) good samples to start with; 2) run snare to Reason's compressor; 3) try highest ratio, slowest attack and fastest release, adjust threshold to taste that should start you off somewhere. rewire it to your fav DAW for more processing; then add outboard for even more. adjust sluttiness to taste __________________ the Dude abides.

21st January 2006, 05:42 PM	#2
Offender Gear maniac Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 264	I could not make anything sound half way as good as Dres snares on Reason. If you have Cubase with some decent plugins...then you'd have more of a chance. But truely, hardware would be better. He does record to tape...so I've heard.

21st January 2006, 09:00 PM	#3
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,418	buy an SSL like Dre has. It's tough to get that sound without it...there is a little drum collection out called the Dre SSL series..maybe those are good drums..someone could pipe in who has them and say what they think.

21st January 2006, 09:14 PM	#4
PhonoquO Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North of Toronto Posts: 821	i've heard those samples, and they are NOT good in my opinion. Whose to say whether or not they are really ssl processed. If u don't have any analog outboard to process the samples, i would say cop a 1/4" reel to reel recorder (or even a decent cassette recorder for that matter) and record your individual samples to tape running hot, then record off the tape back into your computer, will add alot of life to the digital.

21st January 2006, 11:01 PM	#5
soundofmind Gear interested Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 18	compression, eq, reverb

21st January 2006, 11:35 PM	#7
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,418	yeah, Im a sheep because the guy asked how Dre got his sounds and I told him?? That makes no sense at all. If you can make drums as hot as Dre's using Reason and no hardware please let us know. The SSL is a valuable board for reasons such as making drums "pop". Any interview with Dre shows how much he uses the SSL for his sounds. I am just passing along the info I read him say..I don't think I need to be insulted for that.

21st January 2006, 11:51 PM	#8
PhonoquO Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North of Toronto Posts: 821	ur first obstacle in getting a big drum sound is going to be reason itself. I don't like to knock other programs, but honestly, i used reason for about 1 year and could never understand why my tracks sounded so weak. As soon as i changed up to cubase with plugins, there was no turning back. Although reason has improved to include better compression and a limiter, it still has that constrained muffled sound. The cheap versions of cubase sx are really quite cheap and don't lose too much functionality. Check out the demos, u won't be dissapointed. There are alot of good freeware plugins out there ( do some research ) and there's the other route. Reason's biggest flaw besides the sound quality, is that u can't even record audio into it, which forces you to rewire. Fruity loops is also a good option and it sounds good. peace

21st January 2006, 11:53 PM	#9
AnalogBob Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 483	Making stuff like Dre In Reason....Good luck....you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear..

22nd January 2006, 12:19 AM	#10
farjedi Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 198	Try picking sounds that pop in the first place?

26th January 2006, 02:33 AM	#15
Igotsoul4u Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,573	I usually use some sort of 1176 emulation (in protools) I set the the ration to 4 and make the attack around noon and the release around on the faster side, but not to fast. I usually like a gain ruduction of about -4db. This is my general starting point.

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