Originally Posted by Labcat
Thanks for doing this Q & A, some awesome information in this thread.
Is Vinyl the only medium you sample from?
Also, can tell us a bit about how the song "A sons cycle" came about and what inspired you to create it?
Its a beautiful WAV file to look at and the dynamics are amazing. By dynamics I mean piano, forte
etc not compression. There are not many Hip Hop songs with such varying dynamics, in fact I can't think of any others, do you know of any?
vinyl-pretty much, but im not a purist. the drums on "true confessions" came off a mid-90's rock cd.
A SONS CYCLE-its funny you ask this. the story behind this song is one of the most interesting things in my catalog. IMO its something that's never been done before in a rap song. im surprised not more people have noticed it. ok, here's the long story behind that song.....
i had done the beat that was "part A" of this song a long time ago, but it never found a home. i knew it was dope, but didnt know where it should go, or how it should change. i got a vision at one point of the beat as 1 part of a 3 section song, but instead of it being a/b/c, the transitions would BLEED OVER EACH OTHER. of course to do this, they'd all need to be in the same key, and also DIFFERENT. that's why part 2 starts w/ glockenspiel-its very high, and it can blend over part 1 at the transition w/o clouding it, or making it muddy.
so i wrote 3 different parts instrumentally,all in the same key.
part 1-the synth part. (catalyst)
part 2-glock/rhodes part. (illogic)
part 3-soul sample part (NP)
then, i arranged it so the transitions faded in and out.
sorry, i need to point this out: the last few bars of part 3 are arguably my biggest accomplishment on the mpc-EVER. why? here's why:
the soul sample/part 3 section changes 1/2 way thru. it switches to the chord changes of part 1, to prep for the return of part 1 at the climax of the song. but it was a sampled based thing, chopped up chords that had NOTHING to do w/ part 1-it came off a record 2 years after i did the synth part, how could it?
but the chords in part 1 are very wierd. its a minor key, there's a flat 2 chord in the middle, and it resolves to a MAJOR 1 chord. then starts again on a MINOR 1 chord. bizarre. the kind of thing that would be million to one "find it on a record" type of thing.
so what did i do? basically, i took the soul sample chops, and thru various pitching degrees, played the chord changes from part 1 using chopped up/pitched samples from part 3. it was very cerebral, but i pulled it off. its just the last 2 times thru NP's verse-the 3rd section-but that 4(8? cant remember right now) bars are one of my biggest coups on a sampler ever.
OK-that's the beat. its done. THEN, i somehow got the idea of it being a rap song w/ 3 mc's, and where the verses would do the SAME thing the beat does at the same places-overlap. so 2nd mc would be rhyming the same thing right over top 1st mc, etc etc. eventually, we decided that a repeated "hook" of sorts should go at the transitions, so its the same thing each time, easier to execute, etc.
so i pitched this idea to a few mc's, and after 6 months, i realized it just wasnt gonna happen. they never got back to me. but i believed in the idea, and thought it had never been done in rap, and wanted to pull it off. so i pulled the concept, and brought it catalyst, illogic, and np-3 guys from cols that i had never gotten to work with. they nailed it. bam. song done.