Mobile Absorbing Vocal Booth

HittMann · 5th January 2006, 06:26 PM

Auralex MAX-Wall VB Mobile Absorbing Vocal Booth

What you think of that?? does it really work ?? is it close to a real vocal booth??
i need real strong isolation for rap vocals and proximity effect etc...
I'm used to "SSL" studios' vocal booths, will this sound at least close to that??

con?one · 5th January 2006, 06:30 PM

i bought the maxxwalls last year from auralex, and after waiting forever for these things to show up, i wasn't impressed. i got beter resluts from a couple of boom stands and some blankets (looks ugly, sounds better)

HittMann · 5th January 2006, 06:42 PM

yeah, i've seen people using blankets, for example those used in the fade to black dvd when jayz is recording 99 problems, what kind of blankets are those???
that song sounds hot qualitywise... how many blankets you need to do the trick, a lot??

con?one · 5th January 2006, 06:46 PM

what i do, is take two regular boom stands, adjust each one a "T" shape, then i throw a big ass comforter on each one and adjust to the room, sound, etc...
it's not going to isolate the vocalist, but it's cut down on outside noise and help you control any reflections, etc..

cynic · 5th January 2006, 07:10 PM

I have the "cheap" maxwall setup - the one with 2 pieces...It works OK for cutting reflections and will cut a LITTLE outside noise if you place it like a V and put the mic in the corner - but it's not going to stop your mic from picking up a train rolling past outside or loud traffic noise.

These days when I record vocals its in my walk-in closet surrounded by clothes, and I put the max walls inside there too.

I still want one of those isobooth things though :(

Bigup home recording...............................

**TonyBelmont** · 5th January 2006, 07:33 PM

You could buy some cheap shipping blankets at Walmart that would work better than the MaxWall... Although it won't look very pretty.

nukmusic · 5th January 2006, 08:14 PM

it much much cheaper to use a walk-in close full of regular everyday clothes.....

or if its blankets u want, get one dozen "moving pads" from a moving company like uhaul. they are thick and they last a lifetime.

cynic · 5th January 2006, 08:32 PM

on the closet recording tip...i have to run a mic cable about 30-50 feet to my closet (it's in the next room)

is that ****ing up my vocals?

XHipHop · 5th January 2006, 10:11 PM

The Realtraps bass traps and their minitraps can be mounted on mic stands pretty easily. You can buy about 4 of those, put them on mic stands, and then move them wherever you want.

XHipHop · 5th January 2006, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynic

on the closet recording tip...i have to run a mic cable about 30-50 feet to my closet (it's in the next room)

is that ****ing up my vocals?

You tell us!

Listen with a short cable and then listen with the long one and see if there is a difference.

We aren't listening through your speakers so we can't tell.

XHipHop · 5th January 2006, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

You could buy some cheap shipping blankets at Walmart that would work better than the MaxWall... Although it won't look very pretty.

Looks aren't everything...watching Jay-Z surrounded by Gobos and packing blankets at Rick Rubin's studio shows that.

nukmusic · 6th January 2006, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynic

on the closet recording tip...i have to run a mic cable about 30-50 feet to my closet (it's in the next room)

is that ****ing up my vocals?

that's a good run...............what mic and preamp? & what cable?

cynic · 6th January 2006, 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nukmusic

that's a good run...............what mic and preamp? & what cable?

just your average guitar center cable...on a langevin dvc, or my meek vc3q...

mics: rode nt1, baby blue bottle, sm57

i don't notice a difference, just wondering how long cable runs affect vocals if at all...guess it doesn't matter since it's a balanced XLR cable right?

HittMann · 6th January 2006, 02:33 AM

These would make it better than Auralex? lol
http://moverssupplies.com/MOVING-BLA...Premium-grade/

.. what about low end?? bass traps or what...

brother · 16th February 2006, 04:54 PM

A big no for the Maxx wall. I was sold it under the premise that it would stop the computer noise, and other noises very much like an iso booth. One of my worst purchases of '05 it that, it did not do what I wanted it to do and it was non-returnable. Now I use it to help isolate the studio and cut down on reflections and it works fine. This should be it's purpose/use. If a sales guy says it does otherwise, hand up and get another sales guy.

Brother

halfguard · 16th February 2006, 08:15 PM

i was actually thinking of trying to make some sort of folding contraption with these. something i couod put away easily when not in use.

Psyko/Acoustics · 17th February 2006, 03:38 AM

http://signaturehardware.com/class229

How about a shower curtain rod in the corner of your room, hang packing blankets from it... put some soft stuff against the wall to kill reflections? Then you can use optional "corner-loading" to bring out the bass!

Best I could come up with. Not too mobile tho.

Phunkeman · 17th February 2006, 02:03 PM

Foam does not work.

Period.

Make you some broadband absorbers and hang them on your wall and roll on. Many diy insrtuctions on the web. Or do the GIK Acoustics or Real Traps depending on how deep your pocket . They can be moved when you move.

Psyko/Acoustics · 18th February 2006, 04:22 AM

Hmmm, hopefully not replying to me?

I hear egg cartons work great!

(kidding)

nukmusic · 18th February 2006, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cynic

just your average guitar center cable...on a langevin dvc, or my meek vc3q...

mics: rode nt1, baby blue bottle, sm57

i don't notice a difference, just wondering how long cable runs affect vocals if at all...guess it doesn't matter since it's a balanced XLR cable right?

that's cool. longer runs would increase the chance of noise getting into the signal. over maybe......50ft and up

Willy Stylez · 29th June 2008, 06:39 PM

These are what I use and work stupendously! They're commonly referred to as "Modular Acoustic Screens" or "Noise Absorption/Acoustic Blankets" and from what I've found used primarily in industrial/manufacturing environments to control the sound of noisy machinery. When not tracking vocals you can detach them and place them up against your walls for acoustic room treatment. These are the exact same thing Rick Rubin was using in his studio captured in the Jay-Z Fade To Black DVD see here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVNKiFZ8w8

"Stand alone screen or join together to form noise-reducing enclosure. Features a sturdy steel frame with platform legs and a sound barrier curtain that combines a mass loaded vinyl barrier material with a gray quilted fiberglass noise absorber. Each screens forms a continuous noise barrier with adjacent screens by means of 2" Velcro strips on each curtain edge. Easy to assemble.

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5th January 2006, 06:26 PM	#1
HittMann Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 56	Mobile Absorbing Vocal Booth Auralex MAX-Wall VB Mobile Absorbing Vocal Booth What you think of that?? does it really work ?? is it close to a real vocal booth?? i need real strong isolation for rap vocals and proximity effect etc... I'm used to "SSL" studios' vocal booths, will this sound at least close to that??

5th January 2006, 06:30 PM	#2
con?one Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 665	i bought the maxxwalls last year from auralex, and after waiting forever for these things to show up, i wasn't impressed. i got beter resluts from a couple of boom stands and some blankets (looks ugly, sounds better) __________________ : : c o n ? o n e : : www.conone.net www.myspace.com/conone

5th January 2006, 06:42 PM	#3
HittMann Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 56	blankets yeah, i've seen people using blankets, for example those used in the fade to black dvd when jayz is recording 99 problems, what kind of blankets are those??? that song sounds hot qualitywise... how many blankets you need to do the trick, a lot??

5th January 2006, 06:46 PM	#4
con?one Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NYC Posts: 665	what i do, is take two regular boom stands, adjust each one a "T" shape, then i throw a big ass comforter on each one and adjust to the room, sound, etc... it's not going to isolate the vocalist, but it's cut down on outside noise and help you control any reflections, etc.. __________________ : : c o n ? o n e : : www.conone.net www.myspace.com/conone

5th January 2006, 07:10 PM	#5
cynic Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san jose, califas Posts: 1,877	I have the "cheap" maxwall setup - the one with 2 pieces...It works OK for cutting reflections and will cut a LITTLE outside noise if you place it like a V and put the mic in the corner - but it's not going to stop your mic from picking up a train rolling past outside or loud traffic noise. These days when I record vocals its in my walk-in closet surrounded by clothes, and I put the max walls inside there too. I still want one of those isobooth things though :( Bigup home recording............................... __________________ damaged goods - beyond repair, cd out now damaged goods - myspace page flying brick records clout online

5th January 2006, 07:33 PM	#6
TonyBelmont Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Boston,MA Providence,RI Posts: 9,351	You could buy some cheap shipping blankets at Walmart that would work better than the MaxWall... Although it won't look very pretty. __________________ Tony Belmont We Sell Gear! Need plugins? Check out PluginDiscounts.com

5th January 2006, 08:14 PM	#7
nukmusic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Orleans, LA / Dallas, TX Posts: 3,213	it much much cheaper to use a walk-in close full of regular everyday clothes..... or if its blankets u want, get one dozen "moving pads" from a moving company like uhaul. they are thick and they last a lifetime. __________________ . "THE BLACK LIST" HBO special.. so many vital topics/points. Just so many. Docta'J aka Big NUK www.nukmusic.com Practice Makes Progress

5th January 2006, 08:32 PM	#8
cynic Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: san jose, califas Posts: 1,877	on the closet recording tip...i have to run a mic cable about 30-50 feet to my closet (it's in the next room) is that ****ing up my vocals? __________________ damaged goods - beyond repair, cd out now damaged goods - myspace page flying brick records clout online

5th January 2006, 10:11 PM	#9
XHipHop Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,015	The Realtraps bass traps and their minitraps can be mounted on mic stands pretty easily. You can buy about 4 of those, put them on mic stands, and then move them wherever you want.

6th January 2006, 02:33 AM	#14
HittMann Gear Head Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 56	These would make it better than Auralex? lol http://moverssupplies.com/MOVING-BLA...Premium-grade/ .. what about low end?? bass traps or what...

16th February 2006, 04:54 PM	#15
brother Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 28	Maxx Wall A big no for the Maxx wall. I was sold it under the premise that it would stop the computer noise, and other noises very much like an iso booth. One of my worst purchases of '05 it that, it did not do what I wanted it to do and it was non-returnable. Now I use it to help isolate the studio and cut down on reflections and it works fine. This should be it's purpose/use. If a sales guy says it does otherwise, hand up and get another sales guy. Brother

16th February 2006, 08:15 PM	#16
halfguard Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: south fla Posts: 974	i was actually thinking of trying to make some sort of folding contraption with these. something i couod put away easily when not in use.

17th February 2006, 03:38 AM	#17
Psyko/Acoustics Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 403	http://signaturehardware.com/class229 How about a shower curtain rod in the corner of your room, hang packing blankets from it... put some soft stuff against the wall to kill reflections? Then you can use optional "corner-loading" to bring out the bass! Best I could come up with. Not too mobile tho. Attached Images __________________ James Strowger: A farce to be reckoned with.

17th February 2006, 02:03 PM	#18
Phunkeman Gear nut Join Date: May 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 139	Foam does not work. Period. Make you some broadband absorbers and hang them on your wall and roll on. Many diy insrtuctions on the web. Or do the GIK Acoustics or Real Traps depending on how deep your pocket . They can be moved when you move. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like it phat and round!

18th February 2006, 04:22 AM	#19
Psyko/Acoustics Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 403	Hmmm, hopefully not replying to me? I hear egg cartons work great! (kidding) __________________ James Strowger: A farce to be reckoned with.

29th June 2008, 06:39 PM	#21
Willy Stylez Gear interested Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Seattle, Washington Posts: 2	These are what I use and work stupendously! They're commonly referred to as "Modular Acoustic Screens" or "Noise Absorption/Acoustic Blankets" and from what I've found used primarily in industrial/manufacturing environments to control the sound of noisy machinery. When not tracking vocals you can detach them and place them up against your walls for acoustic room treatment. These are the exact same thing Rick Rubin was using in his studio captured in the Jay-Z Fade To Black DVD see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVNKiFZ8w8 "Stand alone screen or join together to form noise-reducing enclosure. Features a sturdy steel frame with platform legs and a sound barrier curtain that combines a mass loaded vinyl barrier material with a gray quilted fiberglass noise absorber. Each screens forms a continuous noise barrier with adjacent screens by means of 2" Velcro strips on each curtain edge. Easy to assemble.

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