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Old 29th December 2005   #1
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I need LOUDSPEAKERS!!!

Wanted to get some input from some of you guys out there.... My studio currently doesn't have any BIG speakers... Infact, the only monitors I have are the Alesis Monitors 2's and some Yamaha NS-10's.... They work fine for me but I run alot of hip-hop sessions where there is always a demands for "turn it up louder" or "turn the bass up." I say they work fine for me because I look at monitors as tools to translate a mix on other systems...not really for blowing me out of my chair.... I don't have the $$$ to go out here and purchase any $3000 speakers.... are there any options aside from going to a pawn shop and picking up some big house speakers.... Somebody suggested the Dynaudio BM15P's.... However, by just going on the looks alone (which I know we shouldn't do) they don't seem like they would give me the kind of power I would need...Am I wrong... I'm not trying to spend over $1300 for a pair.... Could anybody give me some advice on this.... Does anybody else have this sort of problem with clients in there studio?
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Wanted to get some input from some of you guys out there.... My studio currently doesn't have any BIG speakers... Infact, the only monitors I have are the Alesis Monitors 2's and some Yamaha NS-10's.... They work fine for me but I run alot of hip-hop sessions where there is always a demands for "turn it up louder" or "turn the bass up." I say they work fine for me because I look at monitors as tools to translate a mix on other systems...not really for blowing me out of my chair.... I don't have the $$$ to go out here and purchase any $3000 speakers.... are there any options aside from going to a pawn shop and picking up some big house speakers.... Somebody suggested the Dynaudio BM15P's.... However, by just going on the looks alone (which I know we shouldn't do) they don't seem like they would give me the kind of power I would need...Am I wrong... I'm not trying to spend over $1300 for a pair.... Could anybody give me some advice on this.... Does anybody else have this sort of problem with clients in there studio?
jbl is the only company i know thats going to have 3 way speakers(not 2 way) for under 3Gs new.
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Wanted to get some input from some of you guys out there.... My studio currently doesn't have any BIG speakers... Infact, the only monitors I have are the Alesis Monitors 2's and some Yamaha NS-10's.... They work fine for me but I run alot of hip-hop sessions where there is always a demands for "turn it up louder" or "turn the bass up." I say they work fine for me because I look at monitors as tools to translate a mix on other systems...not really for blowing me out of my chair.... I don't have the $$$ to go out here and purchase any $3000 speakers.... are there any options aside from going to a pawn shop and picking up some big house speakers.... Somebody suggested the Dynaudio BM15P's.... However, by just going on the looks alone (which I know we shouldn't do) they don't seem like they would give me the kind of power I would need...Am I wrong... I'm not trying to spend over $1300 for a pair.... Could anybody give me some advice on this.... Does anybody else have this sort of problem with clients in there studio?
if listen to ns10s for more than 30 seconds i start to feel like i wanna poke my eyes out with a rusty box cutter.
BUT, as far as needing something for louder playback, you could always get a pair of small portable pa speakers (EV, JBL, Makie, Samson and and few other companies make them). if people are asking for louder, you should definitely have the option.. because the easiest way to **** up the vibe in a session is say "i can't"
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Blue Sky System One - 3 way, 12" sub, lots of power (400 watts), sound very good, plenty loud, close to your price point.

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Maybe you could just add a sub to the Monitor 2's....

I'm not a big Mackie fan, but a Mackie HRS120 knocks really hard if you want to add some bass... and costs about $1000...
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Have your monitors for actually listening and dealing with the audio, and have a big hurking pair of whatevers that are loud as shit and route it to those if they want to "hear it loud".

Obviously if it's all about the bass being turned up, they probably won't really care too too much that they aren't pro monitors. They probably jsut wannawild out to their own shit.
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Ghetto style dude. Buy a set of JBL 3 way PA speakers, and let it rip. It's been done this way forever, and works like a charm. Ausberger shmaushburger, no need to spend all that coin for something that sounds like warmed over dog $hit anyway. KV audio if you wanna spend a bit more, and be deaf within a few seconds. It's not like you can tweak subtle nuances of your sound at 120 dB anyway. This is a great setup to work on your bass response too. Solo your basses, 808's, and kicks, crank em' up, and get it humming proper. Then switch back to nearfields to work your mid's, and highs. Pure ghettofied joy.
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Why not browse the used HIFI market and get a pair of B&W 801 Matrix or Nautilus anternatively the 802. If you have an amp already you can have them for as little as you can pay. They sound absolutely fantastic and look really beautiful particularly if you can get the Walnut version.
Your clients should recognize them or you just tell them the new pricetag ($8000+) and they will love you.

They play louder than you ever need and are sort of a standard monitor in the classical recording business.
They are picky about the amp driving them, but to start out with they are still good monitors even with cheap hifi amplification.

You will love them just for listening pleasure as well - I promise!

We just solved our monitoring situation by getting a 150w Krell amp and a pair of walnut 801 matrix s2. I couldn't be happier!

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Why not browse the used HIFI market and get a pair of B&W 801 Matrix or Nautilus anternatively the 802. If you have an amp already you can have them for as little as you can pay. They sound absolutely fantastic and look really beautiful particularly if you can get the Walnut version.
Your clients should recognize them or you just tell them the new pricetag ($8000+) and they will love you.

They play louder than you ever need and are sort of a standard monitor in the classical recording business.
They are picky about the amp driving them, but to start out with they are still good monitors even with cheap hifi amplification.

You will love them just for listening pleasure as well - I promise!

We just solved our monitoring situation by getting a 150w Krell amp and a pair of walnut 801 matrix s2. I couldn't be happier!

kjetil

The 802's lack bottomn.

You will need a sub with them to get that lower bass.

Also $8K?


I say look for a pair of Tannoy DMT215's and build a portable soffit to put them in.


But if your budget is really low, hunt down some old Urei's.
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You can get a pair of 801 for $1500 used because of the massive markdown on hifi.
You can always add a sub later.
They only roll off 6db at 15hz so there is some bass there...

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You can get a pair of 801 for $1500 used because of the massive markdown on hifi.
You can always add a sub later.
They only roll off 6db at 15hz so there is some bass there...

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Are we talking about Nautilus 801's?

First of all you need a large size room for them to sound good in and we are talking about rap here.

We are talking about 110db and up.

Most of the times the clients want to feel the effect like you are in a club.

Even though B&W's are great speakers it just doesn't feel like a night at Speed or Exit.
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I have a pair of mackie SRM 450's for sale if you want them pm me. Their going cheap.
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Just get a 400-500 watt stereo reciever and some decent tower speakers. You could even go old school for "loud".

You shouldnt need anything louder then that unless your working with the hearing impaired...
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