Kong Kills !!!

[Elogical4now]

Seriously though, been using the demo for a few hours. This thing is it. Best thing I've used since the MPC.

Its just extremely easy to program, tweak, flip and create your own sounds.

I use Battery 3 and Maschine. I really wish Maschine had the simplicity of Kong when it comes to layering and linking sounds.

Propellerheads did a great job with Kong. Blocks is awesome too. Need blocks in Logic Pro. Using folders is just not as intuitive.

Anybody else feeling Kong?

[CRACKPIPE]

Originally Posted by Elogical4now

Seriously though, been using the demo for a few hours. This thing is it. Best thing I've used since the MPC.

Its just extremely easy to program, tweak, flip and create your own sounds.

I use Battery 3 and Maschine. I really wish Maschine had the simplicity of Kong when it comes to layering and linking sounds.

Propellerheads did a great job with Kong. Blocks is awesome too. Need blocks in Logic Pro. Using folders is just not as intuitive.

Anybody else feeling Kong?

I had the beta but never got around to opening it. Kong is what has kept me most intersted. Can't wait to try it.

[mmahan40]

Originally Posted by Elogical4now

Seriously though, been using the demo for a few hours. This thing is it. Best thing I've used since the MPC.

Its just extremely easy to program, tweak, flip and create your own sounds.

I use Battery 3 and Maschine. I really wish Maschine had the simplicity of Kong when it comes to layering and linking sounds.

Propellerheads did a great job with Kong. Blocks is awesome too. Need blocks in Logic Pro. Using folders is just not as intuitive.

Anybody else feeling Kong?

Loving it here as well, picked up my copy on Tuesday!

Super easy to get fat, punchy drums.

I'm also enjoying neptune.

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by mmahan40

Loving it here as well, picked up my copy on Tuesday!

Super easy to get fat, punchy drums.

I'm also enjoying neptune.

How realistic is Neptune? I mean is the quality on par with Autotune?

[Alxi]

I'm very interested in Reason 5
Good to know that kong is that great, i was hopping it was going to be

-Alxi

[m.forbes]

hmmmm now you guy got me thinking about coping just for kong i use logic 9....and really dont feel like going thru the rewire hassle, if thats the correct adjective for it

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by m.forbes

hmmmm now you guy got me thinking about coping just for kong i use logic 9....and really dont feel like going thru the rewire hassle, if thats the correct adjective for it

Kong is mos def worth it. You will be inspired to create.

[a k]

There is like four reason 5 threads... mods should merge them??

I don't think it's been released in Canada yet but Kong is half the reason i'm going to be upgrading when it comes out. Actually it's pretty much the main reason.

[m.forbes]

lol man yall making me a slut on this site....idk....i guess i;ll think about it....then i gotta learn that whole rewire crap again....so what u just use kong for drums? what makes kong so special anyway? oppossed to logic or battery?

[mmahan40]

Originally Posted by Elogical4now

How realistic is Neptune? I mean is the quality on par with Autotune?

I would say the quality is definitely on par with auto tune.

Go to propellerheads website and check out the neptune video to hear what it sounds like.

[ep1c0ne]

Neptune seems to be better than autotune because it's also a midi harmonizer and a voice synth. Just listen to the Purple Ribbons demo song. I don't think there's a vst alternative either.

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by mmahan40

I would say the quality is definitely on par with auto tune.

Go to propellerheads website and check out the neptune video to hear what it sounds like.

That's interesting. I just wasn't able to tell if Neptune was on par with Autotune. In some ways it did look easier when using with a keyboard.

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by ep1c0ne

Neptune seems to be better than autotune because it's also a midi harmonizer and a voice synth. Just listen to the Purple Ribbons demo song. I don't think there's a vst alternative either.

I'll down load the Record demo and give Neptune a try. I have the old version of AT (not Evo) so it doesn't work with Logic Pro 9.

Maybe I'll get better use out of Neptune instead of upgrading my old version of AT.

[folb695]

sorry, not to be a dick and steal the thread, but does anyone know of anything like kong for Logic? I mean the ultrabeat is so un intuative.... i have guru but its basically a trigger... any help would go greatly appreciated

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by folb695

sorry, not to be a dick and steal the thread, but does anyone know of anything like kong for Logic? I mean the ultrabeat is so un intuative.... i have guru but its basically a trigger... any help would go greatly appreciated

IMO Battery is the best thing for Logic.

Battery does not have its own sequencer like Ultrabeat, but in terms of organization, triggering samples and over all usage, its just a better way to go.

I also like Maschine with Logic. There are various pros and cons.

Search the ongoing threads about Maschine. Its really great if you want that hands on feel of a drum machine.

FYI, you can always just rewire Kong into Logic.

[RasCricket]

Originally Posted by mmahan40

I would say the quality is definitely on par with auto tune.

Go to propellerheads website and check out the neptune video to hear what it sounds like.

A vastly more accurate description is this: Neptune sounds and behaves like a cross between AutoTune and a Vocoder.

[sameal]

I'm sure i'd love it too.


if props would ever ****ing mail the god-damned thing too me.

[BacSpin]

I wish NI added a ReDrum like sequencer tab the Battery

[Graal]

Kong is good but lacks one thing.

I have the Akai MPK49 and I only have 12 pads (3 columns and 4 rows).
Kong has 16 pads (4x4)...so ... you probably get the point.
Visually it doesn't help me at all.

I wish there were some way of customizing it for 12 pads or 8 for other keyboards.

Anybody know of such a deal?


Cheers.

[AJ Reynolds]

get a drum controller with 16 pads?

korg pad control is on my shopping list.

[MERC476]

Call me crazy. But...I've loaded a drum on a Kong pad and loaded the same drum in the Redrum module and for some reason (no pun intended), it sounds better when played through Redrum than the Kong module. Anyone else notice? If not, try it and let me know if i'm buggin. Thanks

[overgrown]

Originally Posted by MERC476

Call me crazy. But...I've loaded a drum on a Kong pad and loaded the same drum in the Redrum module and for some reason (no pun intended), it sounds better when played through Redrum than the Kong module. Anyone else notice? If not, try it and let me know if i'm buggin. Thanks

buggin'.


Kong is really good, i like all the sends/effects/sound designer. i havent had the chance to load up a chopped up sample and flip with it yet.

I also don't have record, something to look into i guess.. neptune looks awesome..

also, this may be the thing that puts my MPC to sleep.
and then i'd buy a 16pad control surface.

[SoundEng1]

Originally Posted by AJ Reynolds

get a drum controller with 16 pads?

korg pad control is on my shopping list.

And it works beautifully thumbsup

[ToneCre8]

Originally Posted by MERC476

Call me crazy. But...I've loaded a drum on a Kong pad and loaded the same drum in the Redrum module and for some reason (no pun intended), it sounds better when played through Redrum than the Kong module. Anyone else notice? If not, try it and let me know if i'm buggin. Thanks

Kong defaults to a velocity value of 80 for samples added to the NNXT module. Are you sure you're not just hearing a difference in volume?

[tribeofenki]

Hi all. I haven't used reason from, let's say, version 2.0

So my question is: a complete DVD - so many gb of data - is alot...

What's inside the Reason? Presets? Drum Sets? How can reason 5 get

so huge ?

[ToneCre8]

Originally Posted by i604

Hi all. I haven't used reason from, let's say, version 2.0

So my question is: a complete DVD - so many gb of data - is alot...

What's inside the Reason? Presets? Drum Sets? How can reason 5 get

so huge ?

Demos...The Record demo alone is over 3gb.

[Kado Avant]

Originally Posted by i604

Hi all. I haven't used reason from, let's say, version 2.0

So my question is: a complete DVD - so many gb of data - is alot...

What's inside the Reason? Presets? Drum Sets? How can reason 5 get

so huge ?

Well, there have been several additions since v2 to name a few:
v3 - combinators; v4 - Thor; v5 - Kong & 24 bit samples

I'm sure I left out some other stuff, as far as presets in 5; I like them I'm more of a create my own patch or use alternative refills.

I think the real beauty of Kong, is the ability to sample, and really sampling is the beauty of Reason 5 period. I would suggest grabbing the demo and tryin' it out. Definitely read the section in the manual on Kong, it increased my workflow ten fold after reading.

Hope this helps.

[tribeofenki]

Aha. I know the new/latest added synth n' stuff.

On topic, the Kong thing seems so good for its intuitive approach.

How many presets are provided inside Kong itself?

[Kado Avant]

Not sure about the precise number of presets, off the top of my head, I know there are your general genre type kit folders, and about 5 or 6 artist specific kit folders, so all in all I would say maybe over a hundred or so kits total.

Like i mentioned earlier, i mostly sample into Kong, or load .wav samples or ones I've previously chopped into Rex(s).

[MERC476]

Originally Posted by ToneCre8

Kong defaults to a velocity value of 80 for samples added to the NNXT module. Are you sure you're not just hearing a difference in volume?

Think you're right.