MPC 2000 as master, Computer (Cubase SX) as slave?

[Osten Powers]

Hey Folks ,
I connected my MPC 2000 with my RME Multiface Soundcard via Midi. I want to know how I can use the MPC 2000 as the Master (because of it's great swing) and the Computer (Cubase SX 3) as the Slave? At the time Cubase is the Master, but i'm not satisfied with the Groove. When I play the MPC without Computer the Groove is much better. But I need to connect the MPC and the Computer via Midi because so I can mix the Beat (Out of the 8 analog Outs from the MPC 2000) and the Vocals (out of the Analog Outputs from my RME Multiface) together in one Mix.

Please tell me your setups and experiences!

[Lawrence]

If the MPC transmits MTC (midi time code) set Cubase to recieve MTC on whatever midi port input that the MPC is transmitting on. Click the little sync button on the transport bar and when you start the MPC Cubase will (should) follow/chase.

Are you recording your MPC tracks or just mixing like that with both running?

Lawrence

[grouphome]

as Lawrence said
try syncing it with MTC
in the mpc leave 2 or 4 bars empty, that's so the computer can catch up to the sync.
Also let the computer be the mmc Master and the mpc slave, so the start & stop commands will come from the computer and the sync comes from the mpc
(computers have a problem with HD spinnuptime & gettin ready)

[abit]

This is an interesting question..
The answers was very clear.
Now, as far as I understand "Osten Powers" need to slave PC to mpc2000
for a reason. I guess.

Timing, right?

I can't give a U straight answer to this,
but, I tried once a little and it didn't work something, for the 1st time.
And unfortunately I never get back to this..
But it would very cool to dig in it.

Yes, 1st U have to open the "door" in Cubase( or any other app) to accept
MTC.
Right, couple bars before music starts for take off.

Let say we did that.
What happens after that?
MPC will play in its own timing and Cubase in it's own(shity PC timing),
shifting here and there with more or less success.

That's why most of the pips, just fkn record drums in the Cubase(ProToys)
and shift all other midi or audio material around their drumz to get the groove right.

What I was thinking would be cool after U have your beat happening in MPC,
add/merge your MIDI(file) into MPC from PC,
and use your PC just as a sampler only.
(!)

That suppose to give us almost a 100% of MPC TIMING.

How we gonna do vocals?

Aight.
No news here.
We record stereo/reference track to PC and work all our overdubbs and edits.


When time to mix. 2 ways.

1. Record all your tracks to PC(synced). Mix it.
This one is most stable and practical I think.
And this how everybody work as I mention earlier.
But U can't tweak your midi to the very end in this case.


If U need to be "free" to the very end with MIDI:
2. Sync PC and MPC, but don't use midi data in PC -mute it.
Don't mute VST tracks. Nothing will play.
Mute MIDI data/Regions.
MPC will send it midi info and trigger your samples/instruments in PC.
Only audio (vocals, guitar what ever U have) need to play in sync.

Theory?
Yes.
But I'm gonna try this soon.

The main thing here - MPC is a MASTER and we have MPC timing.
Which is very important .( 2me at least)
Another thing to keep in mind -
our midi file have to fit in MPC memory..
I think the latest MPC have plenty.
And if it doesn't we can record some pads let say to free it up.
U can always find the way around it.

Pain? May be.
Need to try this myself.

Comments are always welcome.
And if anybody work this way please post.

Hoo...

[Osten Powers]

Thank you all!! I synchronize via MTC, with 2 Bars empty and now it works. The MPC is Master and Cubase Slave ...my groove is save now ;-)! Now I can Mix the Beat out of the 8 Outputs from my MPC 2000, and the Vocals out of the 8 Outs of my RME. I can do the whole mix at my mixer and record the stereo mix with Cubase. That means i have only one A/D conversion. If I record the single tracks in Cubase first and then the stereo mix again, there would be two A/D conversions. That's the main thing why i want to know, how I can use the MPC as the Master. Another point is that my RME Multiface has only 8 analog outs. If i record all the single tracks from the MPC with Cubase, there would'nt be enough Outputs. I don't want to mix with Plug Ins...thank's again!!!

Osten Powers