Cheapest price for Neve....

[Phunkeman]

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by ILL

What i'd lke to hear is a comparison between all the 1073 lookalikes and the "real thing".

I've had the AMS' reissues, my pristine non recapped Originals and the BA's all side by side and in blind tests none of the Neve snobs could tell the diff..including me..
My tech[rebuilds old 80 series for a living] swears the newer ones are a bit cleaner though..Don't matter to me,they all will get "that " sound.. ..If you want the imaginary security blanket of the "N" logo ...fine, spend the extra grand and be done with it..otherwise buy an Averill or even Chandler LTD-1 and make records thumbsup

[Dor]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Honestly, yes (although I'm not really picking sides to take a stance). I also would like to note that I am neither an authorized AMS dealer, nor a Brent Averill dealer either. Athough, I'd like to point out to everyone that I have access to all of this stuff if need be. Even though I am not one of the 2 x authorized Neve dealers in the US, it doesn't mean I'm not capable of selling it. I've sold new 33609's and preamps, etc and have done so for many years. I am not selling anyone an agenda when I say things here on GS.

Yeah, didn't mean to call you out like that. You were pretty much just talking about the internal components that were similiar or identical ... Happy Holidays

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Yes.., as well as dozens of original vintage units and they both look the same. But, I can say that about at least one of the clone's as well..

I've only looked inside 2 of them(the Averill wasn't one of them) and the AMS-Neve reissue.

The 2 were different but they offered more features as well.

One to me doesn't sound like the real thing at all.

It actually sounds closer to an AB Neve mic pre.

To me a lot of the Neve mic pre sound is in the transformer and the caps and this one didn't have them the same.

The other had the vibe thing down(Neve sound) it just lacked some of the size.

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

All the authentic parts?? Like what.. Marinair/Radar transformers?(Nope, that company no longer exists) Motorola 2N3055 transistors? Marconi knobs? RAF blue paint? What really seperate's the AMS units from say a Brent Averill? Other than of course the N logo.. Which of these original parts does AMS Neve actually make that other manufacturer's can't buy? The transformer issue has long been put to rest, and basically all new units, including the AMS & the clones, are using the same transformers.

My point is that the AMS-Neve reissue is a reissued Neve 1073 not a clone.

They own the rights and the patents.

If Brent Averill uses the parts(which i am pretty sure he does since i sold Avedis in the past some API and Neve transformers)it doesn't make it a Neve, but a Brent Averill 1073 0r 1084 as he calls it.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

I've only looked inside 2 of them(the Averill wasn't one of them) and the AMS-Neve reissue.

The 2 were different but they offered more features as well.

One to me doesn't sound like the real thing at all.

It actually sounds closer to an AB Neve mic pre.

To me a lot of the Neve mic pre sound is in the transformer and the caps and this one didn't have them the same.

The other had the vibe thing down(Neve sound) it just lacked some of the size.

I know what your saying and I completely agree with you that some of these clones are not of the same quality as the AMS-Neve units or the Brent Averills (and you and I both know which one's, which shall remain nameless).

Originally Posted by thethrillfactor

My point is that the AMS-Neve reissue is a reissued Neve 1073 not a clone.

They own the rights and the patents.

If Brent Averill uses the parts(which i am pretty sure he does since i sold Avedis in the past some API and Neve transformers)it doesn't make it a Neve, but a Brent Averill 1073 0r 1084 as he calls it.

Agreed... but all of the patents have since expired, so the only thing they still retain is the likeness, and obviously the name. I also agree with what JB was saying as far as it not being the same company. There are some remaining employees from the old days. But, this company has changed hands many times over the years and many of the original suppliers have also disappeared as well. But, the name alone is worth a premium.

I was just trying to point out that there aren't really any "authentic" parts in the AMS units compared to the highest quality 1073 clones. There is nothing in the audio path of the module that they are actually manufacturing that isn't available to, and used by others (from the schematic to the parts).

[reinvention.of.man]

I will say a name-Vintech!

They are the government cheese of Neve clones!

[cletus]

Originally Posted by RoundBadge

.If you want the imaginary security blanket of the "N" logo ...fine, spend the extra grand and be done with it..otherwise buy an Averill or even Chandler LTD-1 and make records thumbsup

I like your style RB! Get it done fast, affordable, and before someone else does as David Byrne once said. Get yourslef a nice Neve re-issue if you can afford and if not get a BA 1073 so you can get back to the matter at hand. It's all about making records in the end.

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by cletus

I like your style RB! Get it done fast, affordable, and before someone else does as David Byrne once said. Get yourslef a nice Neve re-issue if you can afford and if not get a BA 1073 so you can get back to the matter at hand. It's all about making records in the end.

Amen brother

[RoundBadge]

Originally Posted by I.N.s

I will say a name-Vintech!

They are the government cheese of Neve clones!

HA HA!But really,You speak the truth

In a VAN ... down by the rrriiiiveeer

[HeatWAVS]

Originally Posted by I.N.s

I will say a name-Vintech!

They are the government cheese of Neve clones!

slowly but surely I am beginning to think that a vintech is not the way to go... thanks gearslutz... you ruined my journey again. First the 737 now the vintechs... next you guys are gonna tell me that Santa Claus isn't real . But in all honesty I wish I was posting on this board when I bought my Behringer preamp 2 years ago... I'm sure the laughs would have helped me avoid that mistake. Good thing is I'm only out of $100 for the Behringer


Tony if you read this I PM'd you for a quote on the GTQ 2 mkIII... IT LOOKS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!

[demonfuzz]

Wouldn't a 7th Circle Kit qualify as the 'cheapest' price for a Neve [Clone]?
( http://www.seventhcirclestudios.com/SCA/SCA.htm )

They have a 1272 kit, heard good things about it.
But have never heard one in action myself.

Anyone know how it compares to say a 1073 type clone, aside from no EQ.
i.e. how it would it be for tracking synths/samplers ?
I don't know the diff between a 1073, 1084 or 1272.


For less than the cost of 1 real Neve, you could score 8 channels here of 1272.
Downside is you gotta assemble & test it your self.

Anyone have one of these?

[Anonyme]

I just checked 7th Circle's site and saw their power supply was a switching power supply, which from what i heard isn't that good for audio. But as their kits seem nice i can't imagine the psu to be bad.