Limiters to prevent overs while tracking

tr-one · 15th November 2005

Currently, I'm tracking directly from samplers into Nuendo through a pair of MOTU 192HDs. I would love to not have to worry about going over 0db. My question is what would do a better job? Prism Sound's Over Killer Barrel Limiters (which I've only seen on Fletcher's site) or Drawmer DL441s? Any other suggestions aside from those two would definitely be appreciated.

MASSIVE Master · 15th November 2005

Turning the levels down and taking advantage of the obscene amount of headroom in 24-bit digital recording would be the best way (IMO).

Especially if you're using samplers and such where the sampler isn't going to rush & bump the mic... Set a good level and go (why does everyone want to use up every last bit of headroom at the very first step?).

Jules · 15th November 2005

Be carefull you don't mash your sound when you could just reach over and turn it down.

rlnyc · 15th November 2005

that usually doesn't work out too well. no matter how transparent the limiting, it tends to change the tone and sound. better to just learn how to live near the top of your bit field, not over it.

best,
rlnyc

ps... cheaper too.

XHipHop · 15th November 2005

Those motu units have pretty good metering. You should be able to keep most signals from clipping.

SUPA FROST · 15th November 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jules

Be carefull you don't mash your sound when you could just reach over and turn it down.

Yeah I agree, just turn it down a bit and you should be fine.
Those hd192's are great converters by the way. Don't stress yourself, everything doesn't always have to be at the top of the meter to achieve a great sound.

tr-one · 16th November 2005

So, in reality I'm already doing the correct thing. That's a load off my mind and wallet. Thanks tons. I just get worried so much when people come in and want me to crank all levels up because "that's how the big studios do it". I try explain digital distortion, but it doesn't work and I end up having to track while their not looking. Again, thank you for your time and responses.

15th November 2005	#1
tr-one Gear nut Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Castle Rock, CO for now. Posts: 97 Thread Starter	Limiters to prevent overs while tracking Currently, I'm tracking directly from samplers into Nuendo through a pair of MOTU 192HDs. I would love to not have to worry about going over 0db. My question is what would do a better job? Prism Sound's Over Killer Barrel Limiters (which I've only seen on Fletcher's site) or Drawmer DL441s? Any other suggestions aside from those two would definitely be appreciated.

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MASSIVE Master Lives for gear Joined: Mar 2004 Location: Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.) IL Posts: 2,710	Turning the levels down and taking advantage of the obscene amount of headroom in 24-bit digital recording would be the best way (IMO). Especially if you're using samplers and such where the sampler isn't going to rush & bump the mic... Set a good level and go (why does everyone want to use up every last bit of headroom at the very first step?). __________________ John Scrip - Massive Mastering, LLC - www.massivemastering.com Spoon-feed a newb some answer and he'll mix for a day - Get him to think about it and figure it out for himself and he'll mix for a lifetime --- JS

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rlnyc Gear addict Joined: Dec 2002 Location: NY Posts: 346	that usually doesn't work out too well. no matter how transparent the limiting, it tends to change the tone and sound. better to just learn how to live near the top of your bit field, not over it. best, rlnyc ps... cheaper too.

16th November 2005	#7
tr-one Gear nut Joined: Nov 2005 Location: Castle Rock, CO for now. Posts: 97 Thread Starter	So, in reality I'm already doing the correct thing. That's a load off my mind and wallet. Thanks tons. I just get worried so much when people come in and want me to crank all levels up because "that's how the big studios do it". I try explain digital distortion, but it doesn't work and I end up having to track while their not looking. Again, thank you for your time and responses.

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