Which JJ OS is the best in your opinion for the MPC 1000?

[sd-cd]

I just bought the 1000. That's my first MP. Which JJ OS version do you prefer for your 1000? Thanks.

[excLOUsiv]

Try the free version and see how you like it.

MPC1000 JJ OS

If you like it, I suggest going ahead and getting os1. You are going to have to purchase it anyways if you want the others. In other words you cannot have os2, etc., if you haven't installed and paid for the JJOS before it.

So asking which is better is kind of a mute question since you have to buy them all anyways if you really want to check them out. You can't pick one out of the bunch and roll with it unless it's the free one or OS1. Wait, there are demo versions of the next step up, but you need to have a paid version of the previous OS to audition the next.

BTW, for my needs and workflow, I do prefer OS1. The other OS versions don't appeal to me at all. However, most people do prefer os2 or 2xl, but I think it's mostly cause they do give the MPC some completely new tricks, but it's at the price of limiting some other functions, and some subtle workflow aspects that I prefer in OS1.

Plus a lot of the new functionality in os2 and xl are better done on the computer or a separate unit of some sort, IMHO.

[sd-cd]

Originally Posted by excLOUsiv

Try the free version and see how you like it.

MPC1000 JJ OS

If you like it, I suggest going ahead and getting os1. You are going to have to purchase it anyways if you want the others. In other words you cannot have os2, etc., if you haven't installed and paid for the JJOS before it.

So asking which is better is kind of a mute question since you have to buy them all anyways if you really want to check them out. You can't pick one out of the bunch and roll with it unless it's the free one or OS1. Wait, there are demo versions of the next step up, but you need to have a paid version of the previous OS to audition the next.

BTW, for my needs and workflow, I do prefer OS1. The other OS versions don't appeal to me at all. However, most people do prefer os2 or 2xl, but I think it's mostly cause they do give the MPC some completely new tricks, but it's at the price of limiting some other functions, and some subtle workflow aspects that I prefer in OS1.

Plus a lot of the new functionality in os2 and xl are better done on the computer or a separate unit of some sort.

Thanks! I'm gonna do what you say.

[excLOUsiv]

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Another reason I like OS1 is because I feel it is the most stable and bug free out of all the others. It also gives some nice little extras compared to the Akai OS and some nice workflow enhancements while still keeping a more classic MPC interface.

[fooloof]

i don't know anything about the 1000 or the jjos systems; i own a 3k. but i found your comments to be very concise and informative.

[excLOUsiv]

Originally Posted by fooloof

i don't know anything about the 1000 or the jjos systems; i own a 3k. but i found your comments to be very concise and informative.

Thanks! I've owned a 1k since they 1st came out. I had one from the first batch that came to my city. I can speak on it pretty clear just due to experience with it. However, even after all this time I'm still figuring out different angles on it here and there, and if JJ OS development continues there is going to be even more to discover about it. Between all the OS' available for it there is a lot to experiment with. Great machine if you can get past the pads, and maybe get the pad fix if you have an older machine.

[sd-cd]

Originally Posted by excLOUsiv

Thanks! I've owned a 1k since they 1st came out. I had one from the first batch that came to my city. I can speak on it pretty clear just due to experience with it. However, even after all this time I'm still figuring out different angles on it here and there, and if JJ OS development continues there is going to be even more to discover about it. Between all the OS' available for it there is a lot to experiment with. Great machine if you can get past the pads, and maybe get the pad fix if you have an older machine.

I bought the V2 version and with a black rear so I guess the pads are "the new ones". Thanks for your help!

[Reggmail]

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http://www7b.biglobe.ne.jp/~jj_soft/manual/button.htm

http://www.stansteez.com/files/pdf/JJOS1_Manual_Rev35_NODAW_FINAL.pdf OS1 & OS2 PDF Manual
http://jjmanual.wordpress.com/category/manual-releases/
http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~mpc1000/chart.htm Comparison Chart

I am very satisfied with the OS2, it's fantastic and is far much better than the Akia OS, hands down.
Hope this helps.
& blessings.

[oldboy]

I also think it depends on what your usage is/will be for the thing, and what you plan to get out of it. I only use OS1 myself... I say 'only' because there's both OS2 and OS2XL which provide quite a bit more function - but OS1 is highly functional enough for me as it is.

The upgrades work one by one, so if you wanted to you could purchase OS1 and load it on, and install OS2 (you can flick between them both) but just use it to play about and try out. All purchasing does is give you the ability to save, so I permanantly have OS2 on eventhough I barely use it, as OS1 is enough for me.

[sd-cd]

Thanks Reggmail!

Originally Posted by oldboy

I also think it depends on what your usage is/will be for the thing, and what you plan to get out of it. I only use OS1 myself... I say 'only' because there's both OS2 and OS2XL which provide quite a bit more function - but OS1 is highly functional enough for me as it is.

The upgrades work one by one, so if you wanted to you could purchase OS1 and load it on, and install OS2 (you can flick between them both) but just use it to play about and try out. All purchasing does is give you the ability to save, so I permanantly have OS2 on eventhough I barely use it, as OS1 is enough for me.

I think it would be my main sequencer. After making the beat I would damp the tracks to PT or Live. Samples from vinyl> asr > mpc, drums from vinyl>s900>mpc.
One!

[cpu]

I can't say that I have ever switched back to OS1 sinec I got OS2...i might have to give it a try now since it has been so long. I highly recommend OS2...i feel crippled on a stock machine with the Akai OS.

[sd-cd]

Originally Posted by cpu

I can't say that I have ever switched back to OS1 sinec I got OS2...i might have to give it a try now since it has been so long. I highly recommend OS2...i feel crippled on a stock machine with the Akai OS.

Thanks. And what do you guys think about the free 3.08 jj os?

So if I want to have the OS2 first I have to buy the OS1 right?

[Reggmail]

Originally Posted by sd-cd

Thanks. And what do you guys think about the free 3.08 jj os?

So if I want to have the OS2 first I have to buy the OS1 right?

Free although it's better than the stock Akai, it's not as good as OS2 or OS2XL, as in all things, you get what you pay for.
I posted the comparison chart link above or go to JJ sight and you will see that the paid $$$ ones are much better.

[B.A.]

I prefer OS2XL but if your just starting out I'd say go with OS2. OS2 is more complete than OS2XL in terms of having it's features completed and bug free, OS2XL still needs to have a couple of features fine tuned but honestly those features are the ones that I never use so I've actually never had a problem with the OS so that's all I use and I love it.

[sd-cd]

Originally Posted by Reggmail

Free although it's better than the stock Akai, it's not as good as OS2 or OS2XL, as in all things, you get what you pay for.
I posted the comparison chart link above or go to JJ sight and you will see that the paid $$$ ones are much better.

Thanks Reggmail, I seen the chart. You're very helpful bro. OK, I'm gonna grab the OS1 and have fun with it (I still wait for the MPC shipment).


... there's a new reply - thanks B.A.

[Reggmail]

Originally Posted by sd-cd

Thanks. And what do you guys think about the free 3.08 jj os?

So if I want to have the OS2 first I have to buy the OS1 right?

Your quite welcome SD-CD my brotha.
Yes you would need JJOS1 before you could upgrade to OS2 and OS2XL.
I just wanted to learn one OS feature so I went straight for the OS2, you still could boot up in OS1 but it's no need since OS2 will do most OS1 and then some.
I also didn't need the extra features of OS2XL, so I went with OS2 and called it a day.
Now get the JJOS and go make some music my brotha....Lol.
& blessings.

[sd-cd]

Originally Posted by Reggmail

Your quite welcome SD-CD my brotha.
Yes you would need JJOS1 before you could upgrade to OS2 and OS2XL.
I just wanted to learn one OS feature so I went straight for the OS2, you still could boot up in OS1 but it's no need since OS2 will do most OS1 and then some.
I also didn't need the extra features of OS2XL, so I went with OS2 and called it a day.
Now get the JJOS and go make some music my brotha....Lol.
& blessings.

Thanks bro!

[zebuuhmbahp]

Originally Posted by Reggmail

Yes you would need JJOS1 before you could upgrade to OS2 and OS2XL.

Just want to address this for a second since I've come across this statement countless times or similar to and I'd like to figure out what's going on

You can download OS2XL separately without having to upgrade from OS1>OS2>OS2XL.

I initially went with OS2XL so I thought I wouldn't have access to JJOS1 & JJOS2, but it turns out once you have the OS2XL password, you'll be given the ability to save within JJOS1 & JJOS2 according to:






So...one is granted access to all JJOS firmware upon purchasing OS2XL according to 60017120. Can we all agree on this or?

[arcanjoloco]

Get the XL since you can install anyone with the XL password and then choose what´s the best.

Originally Posted by excLOUsiv

Try the free version and see how you like it.

I did't found the free JJOS so much different from the AKAI one at least for the 2500, maybe for the 1000 it makes a little difference, but it don´t give you the idea of the XL. JJOSXL is a whole another level OS. I'd rather install the actual JJOSXL and try it a little (it will be full functionality despite saving).

[cynic one]

OS2XL is the one. Make the unit like a real sampler, not just a drum sampler.

The instrument programs take it to another level. It's not quite as good as an EMU, but it'll do.

Also I think you get some additional tools like crossfade looping samples and things like that.

[100th Monkey]

Originally Posted by cynic one

OS2XL is the one. Make the unit like a real sampler, not just a drum sampler.

The instrument programs take it to another level. It's not quite as good as an EMU, but it'll do.

Also I think you get some additional tools like crossfade looping samples and things like that.

I agree. I bought OS2XL primarily for the instrument programs so I can use it as a proper sampled sound module module for keys as well as drums and loops. These days my MPC1K spends about as much time as a Mellotron/Optigan/Orchestron as it does a drum machine.

[zebuuhmbahp]

Could anyone elaborate on what Instrument program does? I've been using Drum for most tracks

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by zebuuhmbahp

Could anyone elaborate on what Instrument program does? I've been using Drum for most tracks

An "INST" program operates like a regular sampler would. Meaning, you can take one (or many) samples and spread them across the keyboard by pitch. So you could sample a bunch of notes off a piano, and create a proper piano patch. Stuff like that.

Additionally, you get some more modulation capabilities, like global envelopes and an LFO that can affect pitch, filter, and volume. Using an instrument program you can get more into sound / instrument design, rather than just playing "chops" or "stabs" of samples. It's just another way to manipulate samples that gives you more flexibility than the regular JJOS or Akai OS.

This gets more into the electronic music realm, but there are lots of interesting sounds to be made by sampling/looping found audio and turning that into instruments.

[cynic one]

OS2XL also has a view that's like a piano roll you can program stuff into, or edit notes from. You access it by pressing MODE + Pad15

Seeing notes like that can be helpful if you're coming from a computer based sequencer. The workflow on it is pretty amazing too.

You can even see what samples are assigned to what pad, and change them from that piano roll view. OS2XL has a lot of little shortcut workflow things like that, where you can just zoom around on the box once you learn it.

[AndyFromDenver]

Am I a total loser for sticking with the Akai OS? I looked at the comparison chart and it didn't seem worth it. I am open to convincing though. It's my first MPC and I am so much more used to the ASR10 that I am feeling a little frustrated yet determined to get fast at using the 1000. I hate having to click around with the arrow buttons though!!!! And man o man have I used the crap out of the data wheel, especially when I accidentally recorded aftertouch info to a monosynth device! That was a painful step edit process.

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by AndyFromDenver

Am I a total loser for sticking with the Akai OS? I looked at the comparison chart and it didn't seem worth it. I am open to convincing though. It's my first MPC and I am so much more used to the ASR10 that I am feeling a little frustrated yet determined to get fast at using the 1000. I hate having to click around with the arrow buttons though!!!! And man o man have I used the crap out of the data wheel, especially when I accidentally recorded aftertouch info to a monosynth device! That was a painful step edit process.

Who needs convincing? Go install the demo of the JJOS. I'm pretty sure there's a save limited demo on the dude's site.

[zebuuhmbahp]

you can take one (or many) samples and spread them across the keyboard by pitch. So you could sample a bunch of notes off a piano, and create a proper piano patch. Stuff like that.

Ahhh so that's how it's done! Gonna jump on the 1k and see what can come of using INST track

Thanks cynic one for the explanation

[firby]

Hi,

I am bringing back this JJOS thread. Rewind it. I got out a mpc1000 that I did not really bond with at first. Anyways now it is back in the rack and I am loving it. I want it to do what I do with recycle on my mac, if this box could just do that one trick, edit the start and end points of the individual slices quickly, and save that program quick, it would possibly be the greatest thing ever.

If I get the JJOS 4.99 will it do the steinberg recycle thing where it chops a loop and you get it on 16 or more pads ?? That's what I really want at the moment. Is there any disadvantage to doing that trick in 4.99 as opposed to XL ?

I would love to kit it up for real but I don't cant to pony up 150 bucks for it yet.

Also is there any way to make the pads better without buying new pads ? I was reading about it once and somebody said you could open it up and put tape on the sensors.

Regards