I know theres no rules but would you?

[ryst]

Originally Posted by MYAMS

thats cuase you're a down ass ni$$a

[Realziment]

I understand what your are saying ryst, but one thing ive noticed when in the studio with big producers or when i was an assistant, they dont give a ****, none of the big names ive been around are online like this anyways, more old school i guess. But when they think something is hot, they dont look for opinions, ive noticed instead they make everyone else believe it is hot by their confidence in it. Of course this is hard over a forum, but i really think the fact of it sometimes is people will hate on good shit too, they just wanna say its weak because they want to promote the thought of them being way beyond whats being listened to. personally theres people who i really dont like as people, such as an studio old neighbor. personally, but when listening to their music i tell myself shit shit shit, ok but thats good. Ill never deny someone of having good music when it is good. Im even as fair as saying well the music doesnt take my fancy but it is good. others just want to hate, there is the few who will be totally honest, theres the few who will say its good just to be nice, and then theres a whole bunch of people who will say its crap just because they are bitter, and this is based on all forums i have been on over the years, not a personal thing, anyways thats my 2 cents.

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by Realziment

I understand what your are saying ryst, but one thing ive noticed when in the studio with big producers or when i was an assistant, they dont give a ****, none of the big names ive been around are online like this anyways, more old school i guess. But when they think something is hot, they dont look for opinions, ive noticed instead they make everyone else believe it is hot by their confidence in it. Of course this is hard over a forum, but i really think the fact of it sometimes is people will hate on good shit too, they just wanna say its weak because they want to promote the thought of them being way beyond whats being listened to. personally theres people who i really dont like as people, such as an studio old neighbor. personally, but when listening to their music i tell myself shit shit shit, ok but thats good. Ill never deny someone of having good music when it is good. Im even as fair as saying well the music doesnt take my fancy but it is good. others just want to hate, there is the few who will be totally honest, theres the few who will say its good just to be nice, and then theres a whole bunch of people who will say its crap just because they are bitter, and this is based on all forums i have been on over the years, not a personal thing, anyways thats my 2 cents.

dude, all the big boys are online... most of em got macbook pros... ichat.. etc. etc. when you get good you will be heard

[Realziment]

dude, i didnt mean not online, i meant there not online posting like this all the time, a majority i know of, im just speaking from the ones i know. I worked for L.T hutton he occasionaly popped on myspace and i see him occasionally on facebook but he is rarely online other than that, when i was around he just did music. id rarely see him online, and most of the stuff he needed online i or the other engineer would do.

[ryst]

Originally Posted by Realziment

I understand what your are saying ryst, but one thing ive noticed when in the studio with big producers or when i was an assistant, they dont give a ****, none of the big names ive been around are online like this anyways, more old school i guess. But when they think something is hot, they dont look for opinions, ive noticed instead they make everyone else believe it is hot by their confidence in it. Of course this is hard over a forum, but i really think the fact of it sometimes is people will hate on good shit too, they just wanna say its weak because they want to promote the thought of them being way beyond whats being listened to. personally theres people who i really dont like as people, such as an studio old neighbor. personally, but when listening to their music i tell myself shit shit shit, ok but thats good. Ill never deny someone of having good music when it is good. Im even as fair as saying well the music doesnt take my fancy but it is good. others just want to hate, there is the few who will be totally honest, theres the few who will say its good just to be nice, and then theres a whole bunch of people who will say its crap just because they are bitter, and this is based on all forums i have been on over the years, not a personal thing, anyways thats my 2 cents.

I don't disagree with you at all. i just think when it comes to forums, you're dealing with people you can't see. So the preverbal can of worms opens like the parting of the Red Sea and everyone and their grandma has an opinion and thinks it's valid.

At the end of the day, if you think your music is good and your clients think your music is good, that's the bottom line. And if people buy it...well, then that's the real bottom line (if that's your goal). One thing I hardly ever do is give my opinion on someone else's music on this forum. I just don't see the point. You have to take most things here with a grain of salt anyway. That's why the pissing contests amuse me so much. It's just the internets.

[Realziment]

Originally Posted by ryst

I don't disagree with you at all. i just think when it comes to forums, you're dealing with people you can't see. So the preverbal can of worms opens like the parting of the Red Sea and everyone and their grandma has an opinion and thinks it's valid.

At the end of the day, if you think your music is good and your clients think your music is good, that's the bottom line. And if people buy it...well, then that's the real bottom line (if that's your goal). One thing I hardly ever do is give my opinion on someone else's music on this forum. I just don't see the point. You have to take most things here with a grain of salt anyway. That's why the pissing contests amuse me so much. It's just the internets.

Yea true true true.

[ryst]

I was looking for this picture to illustrate what I'm talking about. Finally found it.

[Realziment]

lmao cant live with it cant live without it, the internet is just like women.

[Reggmail]

It's like everything in this world, there are some who are sincere, as well as haters.
The haters usually get more promotion. (Bad news sells)

As in all things, find the ones who are sincere and trust most of what they are telling you.
Ask and develop wisdom to know the difference, who is an asset and who is not.
God did make some people to have a sincere heart for helping to lift up others, for example: 911, Darfur, Haiti, some teachers, some religus or spiritual leaders.
just look at your life, it may be few but there is someone that's honest, who you can trust and you know is there to help,
and not necessarily looking for any payment other than your advancement and success in life.
Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, as I mentioned before.
Good leaders make other good leaders....then go produce a leader.
Nothing in this world will do your heart good than to know that you helped someone along the way.
It's a payment that money can't buy....trust me.
& blessings.

[Frankie Hill]

Originally Posted by Reggmail

It's like everything in this world, there are some who are sincere, as well as haters.

Not only that, but you are dealing in a forum with others that are trying to accomplish the same thing you are. With that said, there is always going to be that 3rd grade type of competition in which if you do something better than me, I'm going to tell you it sucks to try and hold you down. If you do something worse than me, I'll tell you "sounds good. Keep doing you". LOL So really, all you have to remember is that when someone says "sounds good. Keep doing you", you know your song sucks.
When they flat out say "nah, thats bullshit", keep running with it. LOL Unless someone gives you the breakdown of what it is they don't like, it shouldn't be considered valid (in my opinion).

Now... dont get me wrong... There are some bullshit songs (in my opinion) that get posted and when people dont like them, the person that made the song writes it off as "hating" instead of being smart enough to decipher between "hate" and having a shitty song. Like I said a long time ago, it's the ugly baby syndrome. You know, "a beat that only a mother could love".

Seriously though, when dealing with valid constructive criticism, it's critical not to let emotions get involved. Simply take the feedback, see if it makes sense to you/you agree with it, then go rework the track if you believe in it. Simple as that. Mothafukkas are too sensitive about their damn songs these days, like it's the only song they can/will ever make. And in the same breath talk about how hard they are...

[Frankie Hill]

Originally Posted by MYAMS

thats cuase you're a down ass ni$$a

MYAMS, how can I be a down ass ni$$a? I want to be down too, damnit!

[Reggmail]

Originally Posted by Frankie Hill

Not only that, but you are dealing in a forum with others that are trying to accomplish the same thing you are. With that said, there is always going to be that 3rd grade type of competition in which if you do something better than me, I'm going to tell you it sucks to try and hold you down. If you do something worse than me, I'll tell you "sounds good. Keep doing you". LOL So really, all you have to remember is that when someone says "sounds good. Keep doing you", you know your song sucks.
When they flat out say "nah, thats bullshit", keep running with it. LOL Unless someone gives you the breakdown of what it is they don't like, it shouldn't be considered valid (in my opinion).

Now... dont get me wrong... There are some bullshit songs (in my opinion) that get posted and when people dont like them, the person that made the song writes it off as "hating" instead of being smart enough to decipher between "hate" and having a shitty song. Like I said a long time ago, it's the ugly baby syndrome. You know, "a beat that only a mother could love".

Seriously though, when dealing with valid constructive criticism, it's critical not to let emotions get involved. Simply take the feedback, see if it makes sense to you/you agree with it, then go rework the track if you believe in it. Simple as that. Mothafukkas are too sensitive about their damn songs these days, like it's the only song they can/will ever make. And in the same breath talk about how hard they are...

thumbsup
Frankie Hill: some very viled points that you made.

Again I say, as in all things, find the ones who are sincere and trust most of what they are telling you.
Ask and develop wisdom to know the difference, who is an asset and who is not.

And I guess I should add : Don't get pissed when someone gives you constructive criticism, it's only there to make you better.

To me a friend, if they see something hanging from my nose they will tell me it's there,
be careful of the one who see it, and don't say anything to you about it....Lol.
& blessings.

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by Realziment

dude, i didnt mean not online, i meant there not online posting like this all the time, a majority i know of, im just speaking from the ones i know. I worked for L.T hutton he occasionaly popped on myspace and i see him occasionally on facebook but he is rarely online other than that, when i was around he just did music. id rarely see him online, and most of the stuff he needed online i or the other engineer would do.

isn't that dude pretty old, not in the business no mo? most people active int he game right now are online all the time

[fooloof]

it's one thing to say "I really like this beat" or "this is some of my best work" and another to say "this is a beast of a beat, I must say." if you come out swinging like that, people are most definitely going to ask you to post it up. as soon as i saw that phrase I started scrolling down for the link to the beat, but...

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by fooloof

it's one thing to say "I really like this beat" or "this is some of my best work" and another to say "this is a beast of a beat, I must say." if you come out swinging like that, people are most definitely going to ask you to post it up. as soon as i saw that phrase I started scrolling down for the link to the beat, but...

I doubt hes gonna put it up hes a shook one

[Realziment]

Hes not that old, but not as active as he used to be, more in some movie business shit, altough i did see a pic of him and dre on his facebook in the studio but im no longer in contact.

Anyways, the beat is nearly done, i had to re record the live drums, to they were too clean, i need them a little loose and grimey. And i aint afraid to post shit. whatever shook one means, i dont know. And fooloof whoever you are. I just gotta bounce all the midi parts to audio and get a balance and ill put it up for a minute later till i get enough "GS Feedback" haha, not that is what i want but im going give it to you all, like you asked. Cos its how i am

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by Realziment

Hes not that old, but not as active as he used to be, more in some movie business shit, altough i did see a pic of him and dre on his facebook in the studio but im no longer in contact.

Anyways, the beat is nearly done, i had to re record the live drums, to they were too clean, i need them a little loose and grimey. And i aint afraid to post shit. whatever shook one means, i dont know. And fooloof whoever you are. I just gotta bounce all the midi parts to audio and get a balance and ill put it up for a minute later till i get enough "GS Feedback" haha, not that is what i want but im going give it to you all, like you asked. Cos its how i am

very good, you a hip-hop guy and don't know what shook one means?

YouTube - Mobb Deep - Shook Ones Part II (Official Video) Superb Quality

[Realziment]

haha im definitely not a shook one, im not american, so some the terminology passes me by. I don't know why your gettin bitchy i though u were cool. But none of these hoods i been in since i moved to america phase me in the least, been a white boy from Ireland and been in the jungles, compton, watts working with different artists, people be asking me about it, there was a youtube video somewhere i was in with a bunch of dudes playing around asking me questions and shit about irish slang, down at a studio on crenshaw, and even the white people from here be askin why do you go down there blah blah. Shook one, ha, i wouldnt think so, you all should just keep the mouths shut, till i put the track up, your welcome to say what yous want then.

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by Realziment

haha im definitely not a shook one, im not american, so some the terminology passes me by. I don't know why your gettin bitchy i though u were cool. But none of these hoods i been in since i moved to america phase me in the least, been a white boy from Ireland and been in the jungles, compton, watts working with different artists, people be asking me about it, there was a youtube video somewhere i was in with a bunch of dudes playing around asking me questions and shit about irish slang, down at a studio on crenshaw, and even the white people from here be askin why do you go down there blah blah. Shook one, ha, i wouldnt think so, you all should just keep the mouths shut, till i put the track up, your welcome to say what yous want then.

I am cool, I was just messing with ya buddy Look forward to peeping your track. Live drums?

If your track is dope all the rest of the GS guys gon be shook ones

[fooloof]

you should look up "shook ones" by mobb deep, which is where the term got popularized. i am surprised you are not aware of this song, a hip hop anthem from right in the middle of the classic 90s. man, i'm not trippin' at all about your beat. but again, your terminology beckons a lot of challengers. i'm thinkin' that if it really is a beast of a beat, then it shouldn't need all that many revisions, ya heard?

[Realziment]

I did know the song the term just skipped my mind, and your right terminology, i alsways get mistook here in America because terminology is so different. I really meant a beast in my own opinion, becuase of certain elements, it do stand out though, if its not up late tonight it will be up tomorrow, i literally got back an hour ago and i have some stuff to do, im not here to please GS, but im anxious to get it up though, it wont be well mixed becuase im not great at mixing, but at least you all can hear it. And i put my money where my mouth is, lol so to speak. anyways im excited for the feedback, because no matter what i really am on this beat, its different to all my other shit, and the right artists could kill it!. Check back ima post it asap.

[RTR]

Originally Posted by Realziment

I did know the song the term just skipped my mind, and your right terminology, i alsways get mistook here in America because terminology is so different. I really meant a beast in my own opinion, becuase of certain elements, it do stand out though, if its not up late tonight it will be up tomorrow, i literally got back an hour ago and i have some stuff to do, im not here to please GS, but im anxious to get it up though, it wont be well mixed becuase im not great at mixing, but at least you all can hear it. And i put my money where my month is, lol so to speak. anyways im excited for the feedback, because no matter what i really am on this beat, its different to all my other shit, and the right artists could kill it!. Check back ima post it asap.

Don t you know you cant be real hip hop if you don't know the slang Ridiculous!! You do have the talk down though, ya know the "who be dat up in da boofh" shit

PS. I dig your tunes, good luck with your new artistthumbsup

[Realziment]

Originally Posted by RTR

Don t you know you cant be real hip hop if you don't know the slang Ridiculous!! You do have the talk down though, ya know the "who be dat up in da boofh" shit

PS. I dig your tunes, good luck with your new artistthumbsup

hey thanks, i appreciate it. Good looking out.

[Realziment]

Ok finally, the beat is up @ Realizm Entertainment on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos

Fire away, i stick to my thinking cos its outside of a lot a shit i do. Mix is terrible, done it in minute, i dont claim to be good at mixing anyways, but the general idea would be for everything to hit harder, suggestions welcome. I could sat there and played a bunch of shit over this beat, but it took away from the instrumentation, anyways i think its hot, you all can judge for yourselves. I heard a singer mess over it and a rapper both sounded good.
Anyways enough talk, fire away those of you who were itchin to hear it.

[Reggmail]

Originally Posted by Realziment

Ok finally, the beat is up @ Realizm Entertainment on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos

Fire away, i stick to my thinking cos its outside of a lot a shit i do. Mix is terrible, done it in minute, i dont claim to be good at mixing anyways, but the general idea would be for everything to hit harder, suggestions welcome. I could sat there and played a bunch of shit over this beat, but it took away from the instrumentation, anyways i think its hot, you all can judge for yourselves. I heard a singer mess over it and a rapper both sounded good.
Anyways enough talk, fire away those of you who were itchin to hear it.

Yo,Realziment: the mix is not that bad, drums is a little of timing when the second set or additional set comes in, the voice sample is nice, the chords and pads and strings on all of you tunes are nice, I would bring up those brass sounding chords a bit.
Other than that, it's on point my brotha, in fact most of all of your material is nice.
BS & Parties - Young Swayzz & T Coles: is poppin and off the chain, I think it's one of your best.
Stop being so herd on yourself, although there is always room for improvement, you're in the ball park and it's a lot worst out there.
Keep it going my brotha, your on the right track.
& blessings.

[Realziment]

Originally Posted by Reggmail

Yo,Realziment: the mix is not that bad, drums is a little of timing when the second set or additional set comes in, the voice sample is nice, the chords and pads and strings on all of you tunes are nice, I would bring up those brass sounding chords a bit.
Other than that, it's on point my brotha, in fact most of all of your material is nice.
BS & Parties - Young Swayzz & T Coles: is poppin and off the chain, I think it's one of your best.
Stop being so herd on yourself, although there is always room for improvement, you're in the ball park and it's a lot worst out there.
Keep it going my brotha, your on the right track.
& blessings.

Good looking man, much appreciated, and thanks for helpful input, is it the hats that make it sound out o timing or the kick the that comes in your opinion? i did re record the drums cos they were too tight haha , now they too loose. thanks again appreciate you taking your time to listen.

[ryst]

Originally Posted by Realziment

Ok finally, the beat is up @ Realizm Entertainment on MySpace Music - Free Streaming MP3s, Pictures & Music Videos

Fire away, i stick to my thinking cos its outside of a lot a shit i do. Mix is terrible, done it in minute, i dont claim to be good at mixing anyways, but the general idea would be for everything to hit harder, suggestions welcome. I could sat there and played a bunch of shit over this beat, but it took away from the instrumentation, anyways i think its hot, you all can judge for yourselves. I heard a singer mess over it and a rapper both sounded good.
Anyways enough talk, fire away those of you who were itchin to hear it.

Quick question, are you trying to make the drums sound like a live drum set? If so, we need to talk. That's not a dis, btw. I'm saying I can make those drums sound REAL if that was the intention.

[Realziment]

well i recorded them via edrums and addictive drums, they actually sounded a lot more convincing before i compressed them. But if u got tips lets me know.

[ryst]

Originally Posted by Realziment

well i recorded them via edrums and addictive drums, they actually sounded a lot more convincing before i compressed them. But if u got tips lets me know.

Compression won't make them sound more or less real as it doesn't change the performance. If you are happy with the way they sound then that's fine. But as someone who does a lot of drum programming for my band and other clients, they don't sound real to me.

I don't really have any tips. I've been a drummer my whole life and I obsess about drums so to me it's just about knowing what a real drummer does.

I'm sure their might be some thread about realistic drum programming on GS though.

[Realziment]

im also a drummer, but i got that ekit recently havent played for years my kit is in Ireland. but yea i know what your saying im happy enough for now.