How do you make your sample based beats?

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[Realziment]

sick, just takes out the bass and lays it down, sweet man.

[excLOUsiv]

Originally Posted by Realziment

excLOUsiv, thats a pretty good way of studying it, can anyone shed some light on when you have a song, and you want a partcular sample later on, and its in a different key, is this where you pitch it to the right key or how does it work?

You would have to pitch it, but you also have to be wary of timing too. You might have to do some time stretching. This is where the real challenge comes in, cause often times a sound you want to incorporate is just a little too off and no amount of processing is going to make it fit without ruining the sound. After awhile you get better at knowing what will fit just by listening.

You also have to be aware of frequencies too. You may have to use filters on certain types of samples to get them to fit, or at least EQ them or else you have some serious clashing and or mud happening. In some cases you may want a little mud. Depends on what you are going for though.

[CRACKPIPE]

Originally Posted by Karloff70

None, if you chop it up and use it for 'sound food' for your own angle as opposed to lamely replaying/nicking the original dudes music......

If you use it, you are responsible for clearing it. Even if it's only a tiny element mixed into the rest of the song. The question is, will anybody ever recognize it.

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by CRACKPIPE

If you use it, you are responsible for clearing it. Even if it's only a tiny element mixed into the rest of the song. The question is, will anybody ever recognize it.

Indeed......

[mgthefuture]

First i find some rare vinyl rips.

Then i load up my audio editor, and cut some phrases.

Sometimes ill pitch it up within the program, and save the pieces.

Ill load up the pieces in FL studio, and drag em as audio clips into song mode.
Then i slice up my beats or parts, and re-arrange them until i get a cool riff.

I add a snare, and work on the bassline with 3osc.

After that, i spend most of my time picking the right percussion and kick, to fit the mood of the sample.

Then the greater portion of time is spent with the EQ and what not, and creating a decent space with my verbs.

Then i bounce it all out, and add post compressor/eq/verb/LM in the audio editor since my computer is terrible CPU usage in FL with the plugins i like.

Thats about it. No rules. Been doing it this way almost 7 years.

Time to time, if im feeling choppy, i use slicex/fl slicer.

I can also do t his same process in cubase or live, but FL is by the far the best in terms of workflow. I just wish it had Live's warp markers for the win.

[Chris Lago]

So in a sense, sampling can be a double edge sword, which is why people tend to replay most of the melodies they sample I guess?

[KevWest]

is he really asking how to make beats??

[Realziment]

Originally Posted by xabiton

is he really asking how to make beats??

No my smart ass friend, im not asking how to make beats, i make very good beats and get very well paid for the beats i do make, i dont sample, apart from snares and kicks and other drum hits i fancy. If you were smart enough to read the thread you would understand i was asking to see how people put their chops together as id like to make a few sample based beats to get into it. Ive never done a full sample based track ive rarely used samples and not to an extent like im asking, and i was more interested in seen how different people work more than anything else. So before u come into a thread with your smart ass crap, read it.

[hanuman]

Hi Tony Belmont.
There is so much advertising in your avatar.
As a moderator should that not be more modest?

[Karloff70]

Originally Posted by hanuman

Hi Tony Belmont.
There is so much advertising in your avatar.
As a moderator should that not be more modest?

Honest and straight up beats 'modest' and full of shite. Man sells gear. Big deal. Man also says useful things. Unlike some of the other pimps around here.

[Toro]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

It's called talent, and having a good ear for it. It's not rocket science.

what not selling enought plug ins Senor Moderator ?

[Toro]

Originally Posted by chrislago

So in a sense, sampling can be a double edge sword, which is why people tend to replay most of the melodies they sample I guess?

Yes

[JaeOne3345]

I really don't see the confusion.

Find a a sample you think is dope, cut it up how u want, replay those chops back into your "own" sequence. Find new samples, pitch them up/down to the correct pitch tune, maybe stretch (manually or with a time stretch function) etc and keep it movin'.

[RyanC]

If you want to integrate samples into keyboard based beats, you will need to have a strong enough ear, and or the musical know how to know when it would work with the key and chord progression your song is in. This isn't just limited to exactly fitting the keys together, for example you could have a sample that was going from Abmaj7 to Dbmaj7 and put a bass of F to Bb under it, and you just changed the chord progression to Fm9 to Bbm9. You don't necessarily have to know the theory, but you need to develop the ear (arguably more important). Or vice versa you could have a i-iv chord progression on your keyboard based beat, but it would take some experience to know what putting a I-IV progression over it (up a m 3rd) would do to the sound. No offense, but I think it's safe to say that if you need a tuner to match keys, you've got your work cut out for you. Also tuners wont always work very well due to all the weird frequencies in the drums. . .

Mostly sampled beats start off as sampled beats, and then stuff get's added to them. It's tricky and time consuming to find something other than hits that will easily integrate with a chord progression that's already established, but with elastic audio (or similar), and good pitch shifting programs, let alone melodyne DNA it's not impossible.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by Realziment

No my smart ass friend, im not asking how to make beats, i make very good beats and get very well paid for the beats i do make, i dont sample, apart from snares and kicks and other drum hits i fancy. If you were smart enough to read the thread you would understand i was asking to see how people put their chops together as id like to make a few sample based beats to get into it. Ive never done a full sample based track ive rarely used samples and not to an extent like im asking, and i was more interested in seen how different people work more than anything else. So before u come into a thread with your smart ass crap, read it.

I did read the thread the problem is you still sound like a fu*king idiot. if you "get paid very well" for your music and can't figure out how to lay drums under a loop I don't know wtf to tell you. Its not rocket science if you have been doing this for years you would have figured it out already. So again you are asking how to make beats.

[dubadoo]

Originally Posted by Realziment

No my smart ass friend, im not asking how to make beats, i make very good beats and get very well paid for the beats i do make, i dont sample, apart from snares and kicks and other drum hits i fancy. If you were smart enough to read the thread you would understand i was asking to see how people put their chops together as id like to make a few sample based beats to get into it. Ive never done a full sample based track ive rarely used samples and not to an extent like im asking, and i was more interested in seen how different people work more than anything else. So before u come into a thread with your smart ass crap, read it.

You should turn down your ego when asking for help. Not everyone is a fan of dicks....just sayin...

Also why don't you spend time experimenting instead, you will learn a lot faster and it would be more productive. Plus people already gave you good info's to start... "Its not ROCKET SCIENCE or anything"
no one really cares how good you are. If your trying to learn something, act like a student not the master

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by hanuman

Hi Tony Belmont.
There is so much advertising in your avatar.
As a moderator should that not be more modest?

It's a requirement to have my professional affiliations in my signature. And, they fit within the site limits. I would rather make things obvious, than be accused of deception or some other nonsense.

I've had the same signature for a few years now, and I think you are the first to comment about it.

Originally Posted by Toro

what not selling enought plug ins Senor Moderator ?

How is what I sell relevant to this thread?

[Chris Lago]

Wow this section is going berserk

[TonyBelmont]

After further consideration, I've determined this thread doesn't need to continue.