It's official folks: Akai MPC5000's gone

[The MPCist]

OK, it's 'official'.

The MPC5000 is no longer on Akai's dealer pricelists.

It's gone brothas and once all the stock in stores are gone, we'll neva see that sucka again!

Akai for the present has implemented the flagship status the the 2500-model.

[Realziment]

is there a reason for this? Im very curios?

[C Heat]

Originally Posted by Realziment

is there a reason for this? Im very curios?

Hardware's dead.

[The MPCist]

Well, the reason is that I think Akai's been making up whole batches of a certain type -- putting them out, seeing if they sell or not, and then dropping them when they don't do well.

The thing they don't get is that MPC users need some STURDY machines. Think about the old ones, man, even the MPC3000 and MPC2000 were sturdy metal machines that would ****ing hurt you if you dropped them on your foot. Not the new stuff though, that would just bounce off your foot and shatter into tiny pieces of plastic all over the floor.

Akai, go back to making real machines! Stop with the FisherPrice shit!

[Barfunkel]

Originally Posted by Realziment

is there a reason for this? Im very curios?

It's probably because the extra bells and whistles it had, compared to the 2500, weren't very useful but made the unit expensive. A simplified VA + a simplified HD recorder, computers do that cheaper and better. Also, a flagship model that's in many ways worse than their previous flagship model - what's up with that? They had 24 bit sampling 7 years ago, it makes no sense to not have it now. VA's are a dime in a dozen, no one buys an MPC for that. If they wanted it to have a synth, it should have been something a bit special, something a freeware VSTi won't do. They probably could had included a simple analogue monosynth for the same price, something like a Mopho inside an MPC. THAT would had sold more units, analogue is such a great marketing gimmick.

Also, Akai's reputation for long-term support for their products is really bad, buying an expensive unit is a gamble. The price of an expensive unit should, imo, include an intent to keep supporting it for at least 10 years. MPC's is not software that you throw away every 3 years in favour of a new version, when you buy an MPC you buy it for life. Akai forgot that years ago.

[The Beatsmith]

it's still listed as 'new!' on the akai site,

MPC Series

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by The Beatsmith

it's still listed as 'new!' on the akai site,

MPC Series

Man....their website designer is ********. Go to: MPC Series and click on 'legacy products' and you'll see that almost all the products don't even have pics!!!

Just a whole bunch of empty squares saying 'No Product Image Available'.

[Lofty]

I wonder how long it will take to get Moog like status :D

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by Lofty

I wonder how long it will take to get Moog like status :D

It's already at that status with the MPC60 and in some way, the 3K as well.

[ark]

This would explain why I've seen some retailers selling the 5000 for less than the 2500.

I can also think of one very good reason for discontinuing it: the internal rotating disk means you're at risk of losing your data if you bang it too hard, and it probably has less capacity than some CF cards. Meanwhile, its CF slot is limited to 2GB.

I'll bet they're working on a replacement, they've sold most of the ones in inventory, and they don't want to make another batch of them.

[Doc Vigilanti]

Weren't there a lot of problems with the 5000? It would crash all the time and the like? If that is the case I guess they figured it was more cost effective to drop it than continue the product given the economy and all.

Second thing the 5000 didn't really off much more than what you could do with the 2500 and JJOs.

[audioguynyc]

Originally Posted by Realziment

is there a reason for this? Im very curios?

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[KFMG]

Originally Posted by The MPCist

Man....their website designer is ********. Go to: MPC Series and click on 'legacy products' and you'll see that almost all the products don't even have pics!!!

Just a whole bunch of empty squares saying 'No Product Image Available'.

I believe that everyhing changed with Numark's aquisition of Akai. I'm pretty sure that that's why we don't see the "true Akai legacy" products on the website nor in their support. I think their new (late 2009) controllers are nice, but their "hardware" leaves much to be desired. Long gone are the days of the Akai that many of us have grown to love.

Just my thoughts.

[Mr.Amokk]

Originally Posted by Realziment

is there a reason for this? Im very curios?

Yeah...the "Beat Thang" is out now

Just kidding...

[KevWest]

imo the mpc 5000 was doa. Nobody wants a VA synth in a mpc. The mpc 5k was a good product but then for everyone who wanted one to find out how buggy it was at first and then to see its a stripped down 4k that turned more people off. Just blaze's review didnt help either. Its sad to see them just drop it but for most people who want a new mpc the 2500 is still more than enough.

[Thysta]

Originally Posted by Barfunkel

It's probably because the extra bells and whistles it had, compared to the 2500, weren't very useful but made the unit expensive.

If you add the buggy OS, it sums it all up. Akai is really in a problem with their MPC series. They don't know where to go.

They should restart the manufacturing of the mpc3000 with the same parts.

[terrytee]

Originally Posted by C Heat

Hardware's dead.

Pretty much true, a noob to day would be better of buying a daw.

BTW my 3k is still and for the foreseeable future the centre piece of my studio. If i was starting out today it would be all done on logic.

[Brian!]

Akai should have come out with something like NI's Maschine years ago instead of this garbage.

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by T Prod.

If you add the buggy OS, it sums it all up. Akai is really in a problem with their MPC series. They don't know where to go.

They should restart the manufacturing of the mpc3000 with the same parts.

thats taking a step backwards. the mpc 3000 is dead and gone to most new users. the problem with the mpcs now is that the average newb knows that he can do more with any daw. Why spend 2gs on a mpc when i can download Fruity Loops buy a mpd32 and do the same thing? Those of us who are still holding on to hardware (myself included) are a dying breed. In 5 years the mpc series is now something that only appeals to a select few of us. Hell its kind of that way now. If they are going to make a new mpc they need to actually spend time on making it a quality machine. Make it sturdy and strong, make the OS flawless, and make it easy for people to use. And drop the damn prices. Any kid with $500 can buy machine and do the same thing a mpc does for double and sometimes 4 times the price.

[terrytee]

Originally Posted by xabiton

thats taking a step backwards. the mpc 3000 is dead and gone to most new users. the problem with the mpcs now is that the average newb knows that he can do more with any daw. Why spend 2gs on a mpc when i can download Fruity Loops buy a mpd32 and do the same thing? Those of us who are still holding on to hardware (myself included) are a dying breed. In 5 years the mpc series is now something that only appeals to a select few of us. Hell its kind of that way now. If they are going to make a new mpc they need to actually spend time on making it a quality machine. Make it sturdy and strong, make the OS flawless, and make it easy for people to use. And drop the damn prices. Any kid with $500 can buy machine and do the same thing a mpc does for double and sometimes 4 times the price.

Word its a dying breed that hold on but hell i not selling mine.....

[KevWest]

Originally Posted by terrytee

Word its a dying breed that hold on but hell i not selling mine.....

and thats why akai isn't making a machine for you or people who already know own mpcs. Most users will never sell their mpc until they either A) Find something better or B)their mpc dies or falls apart. Thats why the new mpcs also don't support the former mpc formats I bet. It was a waste of their time because all of the mpc 3000 owners are happy with their machine. A lot of people still own their original 60s or 2000s so if it aint broke dont fix it.

[Brian!]

Remaking older MPCs wouldn't work because most newer producers are convinced that swing templates accurately emulate MPC swing and that various bitcrusher plug-ins do the same emulation. Older MPCs aren't that expensive to repair so there's no real reason for older users to buy anything new.

Akai needs a rock solid machine that has tight DAW integration otherwise I don't see the point in buying ANY new MPCs. If only they expanded on Akai.sys...

[Elogical4now]

Originally Posted by Brian!

Remaking older MPCs wouldn't work because most newer producers are convinced that swing templates accurately emulate MPC swing and that various bitcrusher plug-ins do the same emulation. Older MPCs aren't that expensive to repair so there's no real reason for older users to buy anything new.

Akai needs a rock solid machine that has tight DAW integration otherwise I don't see the point in buying ANY new MPCs. If only they expanded on Akai.sys...

Yup !!!

A hardware MPC that talks to an AKAI software plugin in your DAW. Seamless integration between the two would be the s**t.

[lord toranaga]

Originally Posted by Elogical4now

Yup !!!

A hardware MPC that talks to an AKAI software plugin in your DAW. Seamless integration between the two would be the s**t.

sounds like NI Maschine, to me

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by The MPCist

OK, it's 'official'.

The MPC5000 is no longer on Akai's dealer pricelists.

It's gone brothas and once all the stock in stores are gone, we'll neva see that sucka again!

Akai for the present has implemented the flagship status the the 2500-model.

It's still on the latest Akai price sheet...

[Darwin James]

I regret selling my 3000.

[lord toranaga]

Originally Posted by Darwin James

I regret selling my 3000.

why?
just curious.

[Darwin James]

Originally Posted by lord toranaga

why?
just curious.

It's a fun tool to make songs with.

[thefirehooligan]

Nu-Akai is junk, had a mpc2500 sold its flimsy ass!

3K all day! best sounding, best built, rock soild, nothing can compare

[creative69]

Originally Posted by The MPCist

Man....their website designer is ********. Go to: MPC Series and click on 'legacy products' and you'll see that almost all the products don't even have pics!!!

Just a whole bunch of empty squares saying 'No Product Image Available'.

Yeah numark know putting pics of the classic beige beatboxes will only show their fisher price toys up!