Should I buy Autotune Evo or Autotune Vocal Studio w/ EVO & AVOX?

[Mayberry]

I'm not an engineer, I'm a recording artist looking to buy plugins to use when I go to different studios, so I'm not as knowledgeable about all these products as the rest of you.

I have melodyne, and a very basic autotune but I want for effects going on so I'm going to buy Autotune EVO. But, I'm wondering if I should spend about 150 more and buy Autotune Vocal Studio which includes evo and AVOX.

Avox seems to have some neat features but not many talk about it so I'm not sure if it's worth it or if I'd be fine with just EVO. And this investment isn't going into a studio business, so I can't just throw around money like nothing.

Thoughts? THanks in advance for the help.

[TheAppliedLife]

You should absitively, posolutely NOT use autotune.

my 2c

what do you want it for? t-pain style electro-vox that are all the rage these days? or do you just want to do some slight pitch correction for singing parts? or is it some other function of autotune that i don't know about?

[Mayberry]

I'm not going to T-pain... But I'm going for special effects and stuff that we're trying to develop on our own (me and the engineer).

I'm not jumping on the t-pain thing, that's stupid. But, we're looking for something good for making good vocals. Similar to Jason Derulo in whatcha say. He has a nice autotune effect on it that's not stupid like tpains.

[sam guaiana]

I'm selling my rack autotuner and wouldn't mind replacing it with the plug. I'll be using it for both pitch correction and on occasion, the cher effect. Which is the best version to grab.

PS, I have Melodyne 3, this is just for prepro/effect/bass tuning/on the fly.

[Bender412]

I bought Vocal Studio last year thinking I would use it a lot. Turns out I never use anything but Autotune. I messed with Duo, Throat and Choir a little bit but wasn't impressed.

[Freematik]

I haven't found the other EVO plugins very useful on a daily basis. I've used them for some special FX, but they definitely aren't what most people would consider their "bread and butter" tools.

I'd save the money, just get Auto-tune (whatever to the haters, all studios that work on rap and hip hop should have it, because it was the artist wants, not what your opinion is), and if you have money left over, then invest in some other plugins that would help a lot more, like the softtube CL-1B or Waves Vocal Rider or something like that.

[MotifStudios]

Originally Posted by Freematik

I haven't found the other EVO plugins very useful on a daily basis. I've used them for some special FX, but they definitely aren't what most people would consider their "bread and butter" tools.

I'd save the money, just get Auto-tune (whatever to the haters, all studios that work on rap and hip hop should have it, because it was the artist wants, not what your opinion is), and if you have money left over, then invest in some other plugins that would help a lot more, like the softtube CL-1B or Waves Vocal Rider or something like that.

thumbsup

Don't worry about people saying "don't use autotune" lol. End of the day it's your choice.

I use autotune Evo in a home setup and it does the job fine for me. Worth saving the extra leftover on other plugs.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Mayberry

I'm not going to T-pain... But I'm going for special effects and stuff that we're trying to develop on our own (me and the engineer).

I'm not jumping on the t-pain thing, that's stupid. But, we're looking for something good for making good vocals. Similar to Jason Derulo in whatcha say. He has a nice autotune effect on it that's not stupid like tpains.

f*** autotune
Be creative homie and try and be original and find your own identity.

[Technician]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

f*** autotune
Be creative homie and try and be original and find your own identity.

No disrespect, because normally I enjoy your posts... but you're way off base on this one.

Basically saying "**** autotune" and be original is your opinion, correct? This kind of clashes with your signature, in which you state "Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one."

I don't get the big deal with Autotune. It's a cool little effect. This, too, will pass.... I don't get the big deal?

I would have loved to have been on this board in 1999. Would everyone have been dissing dog barks in their music?

Gearslutz shouldn't just be the place to post when you want to stand in the face of mainstream culture. It should be the place to discuss gear. And in this particular forum, hip hop/rap production.

[bigstig]

Originally Posted by Technician

No disrespect, because normally I enjoy your posts... but you're way off base on this one.

Basically saying "**** autotune" and be original is your opinion, correct? This kind of clashes with your signature, in which you state "Opinions are like assholes, everyone's got one."

I don't get the big deal with Autotune. It's a cool little effect. This, too, will pass.... I don't get the big deal?

I would have loved to have been on this board in 1999. Would everyone have been dissing dog barks in their music?

Gearslutz shouldn't just be the place to post when you want to stand in the face of mainstream culture. It should be the place to discuss gear. And in this particular forum, hip hop/rap production.

I disagree, your off base. Autotune is horrible, and only acceptable in pop music because it already sucks. (that's why no one complains when Cher/Britney/Miley do it). I 100% agree with Philly. Quit nut jocking whatever fad is on the radio and make good music.

[alyricalmind]

Originally Posted by Mayberry

not stupid like tpains.

I don't see why everyone on Gearslutz seems to be hating on auto-tune in mainstream music. T Pain has some pretty catchy songs and in the end I don't give a shit if it's autotuned or not as long as it sounds good.

Songs such as

Down by Jay Sean
Bartender by T Pain
Amazing by Kanye West

are all great songs and without the autotune effect they wouldn't have the same vybe. It's the in style of the new millenium.

Sure, it's not to a lot of y'all older folks liking but that doesn't mean it's plain "stupid". I prefer "different".

[Technician]

Originally Posted by bigstig

I disagree, your off base. Autotune is horrible, and only acceptable in pop music because it already sucks. (that's why no one complains when Cher/Britney/Miley do it). I 100% agree with Philly. Quit nut jocking whatever fad is on the radio and make good music.

Good music to who... you? Please.

Grumpy old washed up producers around here, I tell ya.

I'm sorry... I'll go back to sampling "hiss" over some coltrain samples and have someone do spoken-word over it. Because that's "REAL" hip-hop.

Well, unfortunately I REALLY need to pay my car payment, mortgage, utilities, etc. So I don't mind a little autotune. And it's catchy. Radio fad? Maybe. Better sounding than your same old 1990's crap? Definitely.

[jbrown1music]

get the basic autotune thats all u need if going for that sound

[bigstig]

Originally Posted by Technician

Good music to who... you? Please.

Grumpy old washed up producers around here, I tell ya.

I'm sorry... I'll go back to sampling "hiss" over some coltrain samples and have someone do spoken-word over it. Because that's "REAL" hip-hop.

Well, unfortunately I REALLY need to pay my car payment, mortgage, utilities, etc. So I don't mind a little autotune. And it's catchy. Radio fad? Maybe. Better sounding than your same old 1990's crap? Definitely.

People like you are why music is collectively in the gutter. Money is not a good reason to make music, love of music is! I challenge you to name me one song using autotune that you won't be embarrased to listen to in front of people in ten years. And not using autotune has nothing to do with sampling and 90's boom bap, what makes you. Think that I was referencing that? I love all types of music btw just not shitty talentless music.$

[Technician]

Nay, sir. Did I say that's what I prefer to listen to? Nay, I say. I did say it was catchy.

It sure is what makes money, right this second. I don't make music for money. It's a hobby. I happen to get paid for it. And there have been plenty of fad's over the last 15 years of hip-hop. I would not at all be embarassed to listen to "anything that uses autotune" 10 years from now or whenever.

Collectively, music is not in the gutter. That is your opinion. You like one style of music, and just because that's not what kids are screaming over, you're salty.

You don't see the polka forums blowing up over the fact that Miley wont do a polka single and neither will Sean Kingston. It's because they DGAF.

At the end of the day, you came into a thread where the OP asks about Autotune, only to slam autotune... further lowering this message forums technical value.

And you know what.. for the record... I actually like stuff produced on Beluga Heights, CMB, etc. I think the Autotune stuff sounds decent over the right track. I also like alot more underground stuff like Tech N9ne, Royce, etc. Guess what... I'ver heard autotune alot in the underground. Better find out WTFZUP with that!

[AudioRecorder]

Originally Posted by TheAppliedLife

You should absitively, posolutely NOT use autotune.

NO WAY!tutt

Auto-Tune is one of the best tools, for many reasons & not for making b.s. t-pain sounds!

[AudioRecorder]

Originally Posted by bigstig

People like you are why music is collectively in the gutter. Money is not a good reason to make music, love of music is! I challenge you to name me one song using autotune that you won't be embarrased to listen to in front of people in ten years. And not using autotune has nothing to do with sampling and 90's boom bap, what makes you. Think that I was referencing that? I love all types of music btw just not shitty talentless music.$

The majority of the time auto-tune is used so the listener can not hear the correction. The T-Pain effect is just over using auto-tune & using it as an effect. There are so many apps for auto-tune the possibilities are endless!

[baskervils]

Does anyone use Autotune on horns? I have an old version (4) and it's fine and dandy on backing vocals or an occasional word, but awful on horns.

[MERC476]

If a paying client tells you they want the "T-Pain" effect on their voice, do you as the engineer tell them "that shit's played out man....nah...i ain't gonna do that shit. Be original mother ****er"? Well....I don't know about yall but I got's to feed my fam, a car note, rent and a mortgage to pay. Whatever the client wants is what I give them. Believe it or not, they'll go somewhere else and say "that bullshit as engineer at the last studio i went to didn't even wanna autotune me". To each is own. Just my .02

[MERC476]

Originally Posted by jbrown1music

get the basic autotune thats all u need if going for that sound

Oh yeah...and this is the answer to your question.

[Succulence]

Originally Posted by baskervils

Does anyone use Autotune on horns? I have an old version (4) and it's fine and dandy on backing vocals or an occasional word, but awful on horns.

I've recorded a few albums for a ska/punk/reggae band that had two trombones and a trumpet on nearly every one of their songs. Autotune worked fine for me on horns, with only the occasional quiet notes that couldn't be detected and tuned.

[Tha Govna]

As has been pointed out, for what you're buying it for, I'd skip purchasing the whole bundle.

Also, auto-tune is a GREAT tool. That "T-Pain" effect is but one of many uses for it.

AudioRecorder has it right. People often seem to forget it called "Auto-tune" not the "T-Pain Effect".

...iZotope actually makes the latter. Lol!

When you get it, spend as much time as you can getting comfy with the graphical mode.

Auto mode is cool, and useful, but the graphical mode is where you put in work IMO.

[sftd]

Just get Reason 6.

Even if you only use it for Neptune you'll have spent the same amount of money, got a moar-badass pitch correction utility, and a whole world of sound as a tag-along.

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[FLR Studios]

I have the full package. I might use a couple of them every now and then, but Evo is the only one that I would really miss if they went away. I don't even use Evo that much for that matter.

[Bender412]

Man I hope the OP made his decision by now. That was 2 years ago.