Waves Vocal Chain HELP!

[youngkuzz]

hey GearSlutz im using waves renansiance bundle to mix my vocals.....im using

-audio technica 2020

-tapco 220 mixer RCA ti Line in on soundblaster x-fi


i record rap/hiphop on cool edit pro and i record my vocals with 4 tracks

-track 1: lead verese
-track 2: overdub whole verese @ -6db
-track 3: overdub multies & punchlines @ -9 db
-track 4: adlibs @ -3 to -12 db

plugin go like so

1st waves r-de-ess (male de-ess wide)
2nd waves r-eq 2 (hipass @ 80-160hz & hishelf @16k with 4db boost to add air
3rd waves r-vox (gate @ -42 comp @ -24 Gain @ -9)

then with the eq on the tracks of cool edit pro it goes as is

3 db cut @ 250-320hz
2 db boost @ 2k
4 db boost @ 4k

now i was wondering what your guys thoughts would be on this and
what you would reccomond and im also wondering some standards for recording rap

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by youngkuzz

hey GearSlutz im using waves renansiance bundle to mix my vocals.....im using

-audio technica 2020

-tapco 220 mixer RCA ti Line in on soundblaster x-fi


i record rap/hiphop on cool edit pro and i record my vocals with 4 tracks

-track 1: lead verese
-track 2: overdub whole verese @ -6db
-track 3: overdub multies & punchlines @ -9 db
-track 4: adlibs @ -3 to -12 db

plugin go like so

1st waves r-de-ess (male de-ess wide)
2nd waves r-eq 2 (hipass @ 80-160hz & hishelf @16k with 4db boost to add air
3rd waves r-vox (gate @ -42 comp @ -24 Gain @ -9)

then with the eq on the tracks of cool edit pro it goes as is

3 db cut @ 250-320hz
2 db boost @ 2k
4 db boost @ 4k

now i was wondering what your guys thoughts would be on this and
what you would reccomond and im also wondering some standards for recording rap

You'd probably have to post up before and after examples of the source material before anyone can really give a useful opinion on what you are asking.

[Storyville]

I think you should not use pirated software, and should use the search function.

[conyeezy]

storyville beat me to it

[TsunboRecords]

Originally Posted by Storyville

I think you should not use pirated software, and should use the search function.

You never know...he may have actually spent the big bucks on it!

If so

Your vocal chain looks fine to me, but has others have said, if you can post a before/after sample it would be very helpful to hear if you got the right settings or not.

Have you tried Vcomp as well? This is what a friend of mine use extensively on his mixes and it makes the voice stand out from the background in a big way (if used properly of course!)

[dhiltonlittle]

since when was the waves renaissance bundle "big bucks"?

[Lrmusic]

Reminds me of a thread where OP was like "I like to boost my kicks 15db at 47hz and 18db at 66hz, how do you like my mixing strategy?" or something. Gotta post some examples OP.

[psycho_monkey]

Soundblaster???? Are you 13 years old???

[SampleMan]

-tapco 220 mixer RCA ti Line in on soundblaster x-fi

waves renansiance bundle $660

LOL

[beanface]

Originally Posted by Storyville

I think you should not use pirated software, and should use the search function.

[PeeWeeGee]

Originally Posted by Storyville

I think you should not use pirated software, and should use the search function.

+1

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Storyville

I think you should not use pirated software, and should use the search function.

Captain Boots of the Good Ship Mercury sez....Aarrrgghhh matey...Yo ho ho and a bottle uf rum ** (please substitute your choice of liquor accordingly)

[statixx]

awww damn kid i already gave you some good advice over at fp. you should know not to post stuff like this on these boards. this is the deep end and if you havent swam ur lap yet then you needa go bakk into the shallow pool. these guys on here eat questions like this one alive.

[paulreed]

try putting your comp first, if you eq first and eq allot, the comp will just mash what you eq'ed to some degree.

[bgrotto]

Originally Posted by statixx

this is the deep end

Y'know, when I visit this forum, I often feel like I've gone off the deep end. Way, waaaay off the deep end...

[rhodesp04]

the first thing you need to learn bro is there is no "standard" every voice is different + every production is different

1. You want to tame the bad things
- Cut frequencies?
- De-ess?
- De-noise
- other edits
2. Enhance the good things
- Boost frequencies?
- Compress?
- Tape/Analog Saturation?
3. "Fit" it in the mix
- Reverb?
- Delay?
- Autotune/Other FX?

You have to ask yourself these questions every time. It will never be the same everytime because the beat you're trying to fit the voice into won't be the same everytime...

[JoeyM]

Soundblaster Live?

Didn't we go to war over that?


I seem to remember.... it's coming back to me....

[Lrmusic]

Originally Posted by rhodesp04

the first thing you need to learn bro is there is no "standard" every voice is different + every production is different

1. You want to tame the bad things
- Cut frequencies?
- De-ess?
- De-noise
- other edits
2. Enhance the good things
- Boost frequencies?
- Compress?
- Tape/Analog Saturation?
3. "Fit" it in the mix
- Reverb?
- Delay?
- /Other FX?
4. "Fit" it in the trash
- Autotune

You have to ask yourself these questions every time. It will never be the same everytime because the beat you're trying to fit the voice into won't be the same everytime...

Very good points, but I made one slight correction. Hope you don't mind

[TsunboRecords]

Originally Posted by Lrmusic

Very good points, but I made one slight correction. Hope you don't mind

This made me lol !