Powerful Kicks!

Caine · 7th November 2009

hi mates,

i think evil pimp got one of the best productions for hard kicks!

i use software and wanted to ask what i need (where to get) such powerful kicks and if you got some hints how to adjust the compressor, eq for making them for example sound like this

YouTube - Say Something

YouTube - Time Aint On My Side

and also check out the LUDA snare, how did he make it so powerful?

thanks manes!

living sounds · 7th November 2009

An analog drum synth, samples and lot's of good analog processing gear. This is the kind of sound I've never heard anyone get with just software.

Audio Child · 7th November 2009

I agree!

Software compression and eq is not going to acheive this!

invest in a hardware eq and compressor.

EM Peq/Chandler Tone Control
Distressor

Comes to mind.

2Loud · 7th November 2009

second that..

Eloheim · 8th November 2009

Come on, isn't saying "you can't" just taking the easy way out.

longbongsilver · 8th November 2009

Those kicks just sound like slightly saturated & filtered 909 to me...

Caine · 9th November 2009

thanks mates, but i guess opinions are still 50:50 cause here many people say that software can also achieve this. hmmmm gotta have to try it out somehow.

Akai Sampler vs. FL or Reason

bladetragic · 9th November 2009

Hmmmm....maybe I'm missing something but those drums don't sound like anything special.

DJ Khalil has waaaay harder drums than this and he uses Reason so it can be done. It's all about who's behind the board.

RealSon · 9th November 2009

There´s absolutely nothing special about those kicks at all. Sounds very mediocre to me.

living sounds · 9th November 2009

Replicate it if you think so. These kick drums are among the best I've ever heard.

DivineMusic · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaLsoN

There´s absolutely nothing special about those kicks at all. Sounds very mediocre to me.

i feel the same way.. nothing special what so ever...

smoke · 9th November 2009

Love how dude has to sound all hard to compensate for his piano playing..

"Yeah nigga, we musicians nigga..." whatever man. You overcompensating.

it's ok folx, you don't have to let us know how hard you are. Play them keys. We understand. LOL

Kick drum sounds like anything else. Nothing new.

If you don't have good monitoring and a good room, you can't hear the impact of the kick you're making. I dunno about gear, I think it's just having an accurate listening environment.

Doc Vigilanti · 9th November 2009

Is this some kind of advertisement for Evil Pimp or whatever?

That is what it sounds like to me, and if you want my honest opinion the songs in the video's you linked to are not anything special, in fact I would even say it sounds like the songs are about 8 years too late, the beats sound like early 2000's southern beats, a la 3-6 Mafia, Dirty Boys, etc.

As for you question I couldn't really hear the kicks with the speakers I'm listening on, but if I was to judge by the rest of sounds in the beat the kicks are nothing special.

viewingstuff · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by living sounds

An analog drum synth, samples and lot's of good analog processing gear. This is the kind of sound I've never heard anyone get with just software.

i think i believe this too. does this also mean that once those sounds are recorded to computer with a transparent, high-end sound card that they retain most of their qualities? for the op, try sourcing libraries that were made this way(and try to use a high-end sound card also).

DivineMusic · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc Vigilanti

Is this some kind of advertisement for Evil Pimp or whatever?

That is what it sounds like to me, and if you want my honest opinion the songs in the video's you linked to are not anything special, in fact I would even say it sounds like the songs are about 8 years too late, the beats sound like early 2000's southern beats, a la 3-6 Mafia, Dirty Boys, etc.

As for you question I couldn't really hear the kicks with the speakers I'm listening on, but if I was to judge by the rest of sounds in the beat the kicks are nothing special.

i was thinking more 15 years ago... sounds like some old bone thugs to me... vocals are horrible at a best

"Yeah nigga, we musicians nigga..." you a trip smoke, but yea he's the one that said it LOL

living sounds · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bravo

i think i believe this too. does this also mean that once those sounds are recorded to computer with a transparent, high-end sound card that they retain most of their qualities? for the op, try sourcing libraries that were made this way(and try to use a high-end sound card also).

Sure, but the sound comes from mixing OTB with a lot of outboard and a console. Using better drum samples ITB can only take you some of the way. And I've never heard a sample library that sounds like this stock.

living sounds · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

i was thinking more 15 years ago... sounds like some old bone thugs to me... vocals are horrible at a best

"Yeah nigga, we musicians nigga..." you a trip smoke, but yea he's the one that said it LOL

I agree, the music sucks. But the sound is good. I think the sound was way better in the 90s anyway, whatever...

Dbas · 9th November 2009

LMAO at the pathetic attempt to categorise a simple piano riff as anything other than what it really is.

That video is just proof how good analog gear and bouncing to tape can make any old shitty fruityloop beats sound ok. fuuck

Cheta · 9th November 2009

hardware this processor that, boooooooooooo

man it starts with the samples that are used. The better your sample (drum) is the better your outcome. You cant expect some kick to be heavy or strong if you have a weak or poorly cut sample.

theres always software out there that can help you achieve this and for some reason eq is coming to mind

START OFF WITH GOOD KITS THO, Simple as that

phillysoulman · 9th November 2009

Has anyone tried "Ravity"??

living sounds · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Has anyone tried "Ravity"??

Years ago. Some good drum samples, as far as I remember.

phillysoulman · 9th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by living sounds

Years ago. Some good drum samples, as far as I remember.

Yes,and very tweakable.

longbongsilver · 9th November 2009

<---surprised PhillySoulman likes Ravity for drums, to be honest.

I demo'd it awhile back & didn't think it was up to much, at least not the drums-only one.

phillysoulman · 10th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by longbongsilver

<---surprised PhillySoulman likes Ravity for drums, to be honest.

I demo'd it awhile back & didn't think it was up to much, at least not the drums-only one.

Its not my only choice.

However,it works for me.

These days,I usually record live rhythm.
Im more into FEEL than boring ass rigidity,except for clients who want boring ass "beats".

Lrmusic · 10th November 2009

Philly do you have any links to any of your music. I'm extremely curious. Perhaps... snippets?

RyanC · 10th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lrmusic

Philly do you have any links to any of your music. I'm extremely curious. Perhaps... snippets?

You've probably already heard some of it:

Bobby Eli Discography at Discogs

phillysoulman · 10th November 2009

F.Y.I....Here are some more.

allmusic ((( Bobby Eli > Credits )))

p_bro · 10th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

F.Y.I....Here are some more.

allmusic ((( Bobby Eli > Credits )))

Yep... don't know that many gearslutz with that kind of cred...
Hats off!

phillysoulman · 10th November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by p_bro

Yep... don't know that many gearslutz with that kind of cred...
Hats off!

Thanks bro..its all love
I usually dont post that kind of thing,but in this case,I just added some of the better stuff,imo.
Been in it for a minute!

SoundEng1 · 10th November 2009

Damn Philly! very impressive list! Good Man.

7th November 2009	#1
Caine Gear Head Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 49 Thread Starter	Powerful Kicks! hi mates, i think evil pimp got one of the best productions for hard kicks! i use software and wanted to ask what i need (where to get) such powerful kicks and if you got some hints how to adjust the compressor, eq for making them for example sound like this YouTube - Say Something YouTube - Time Aint On My Side and also check out the LUDA snare, how did he make it so powerful? thanks manes!

9th November 2009	#9
RealSon Lives for gear Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 714	There´s absolutely nothing special about those kicks at all. Sounds very mediocre to me. __________________ "You can play a shoestring if you're sincere." (John Coltrane)

9th November 2009	#19
Cheta Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago / Tokyo Posts: 82	hardware this processor that, boooooooooooo man it starts with the samples that are used. The better your sample (drum) is the better your outcome. You cant expect some kick to be heavy or strong if you have a weak or poorly cut sample. theres always software out there that can help you achieve this and for some reason eq is coming to mind START OFF WITH GOOD KITS THO, Simple as that __________________ _CHETA_ Royal Circus Music Facebook Soundclick Twitter

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longbongsilver Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: jefferson city, mo Posts: 305	<---surprised PhillySoulman likes Ravity for drums, to be honest. I demo'd it awhile back & didn't think it was up to much, at least not the drums-only one. __________________ B-Psycho Soundcloud Reverbnation

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7th November 2009	#2
living sounds Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 2,780	An analog drum synth, samples and lot's of good analog processing gear. This is the kind of sound I've never heard anyone get with just software.

7th November 2009	#3
Audio Child Lives for gear Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 1,130	I agree! Software compression and eq is not going to acheive this! invest in a hardware eq and compressor. EM Peq/Chandler Tone Control Distressor Comes to mind.

7th November 2009	#4
2Loud Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 558	second that..

8th November 2009	#5
Eloheim Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 655	Come on, isn't saying "you can't" just taking the easy way out.

9th November 2009	#8
bladetragic Gear interested Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 14	Hmmmm....maybe I'm missing something but those drums don't sound like anything special. DJ Khalil has waaaay harder drums than this and he uses Reason so it can be done. It's all about who's behind the board.

9th November 2009	#12
smoke Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,171	Love how dude has to sound all hard to compensate for his piano playing.. "Yeah nigga, we musicians nigga..." whatever man. You overcompensating. it's ok folx, you don't have to let us know how hard you are. Play them keys. We understand. LOL Kick drum sounds like anything else. Nothing new. If you don't have good monitoring and a good room, you can't hear the impact of the kick you're making. I dunno about gear, I think it's just having an accurate listening environment.

9th November 2009	#13
Doc Vigilanti Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 305	Is this some kind of advertisement for Evil Pimp or whatever? That is what it sounds like to me, and if you want my honest opinion the songs in the video's you linked to are not anything special, in fact I would even say it sounds like the songs are about 8 years too late, the beats sound like early 2000's southern beats, a la 3-6 Mafia, Dirty Boys, etc. As for you question I couldn't really hear the kicks with the speakers I'm listening on, but if I was to judge by the rest of sounds in the beat the kicks are nothing special.

9th November 2009	#18
Dbas Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Posts: 243	LMAO at the pathetic attempt to categorise a simple piano riff as anything other than what it really is. That video is just proof how good analog gear and bouncing to tape can make any old shitty fruityloop beats sound ok. fuuck

9th November 2009	#20
phillysoulman Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The City Of Brotherly Love And Sisterly Affection Posts: 8,141	Has anyone tried "Ravity"??

10th November 2009	#25
Lrmusic Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,989	Philly do you have any links to any of your music. I'm extremely curious. Perhaps... snippets?

10th November 2009	#30
SoundEng1 Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: The Deep End Posts: 1,327	Damn Philly! very impressive list! Good Man.

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