Zaytoven's kick drum

valayah · 28th October 2009

I have lately been a fan of Zaytoven's production, but how does he get those kicks hittin so low and still sounding good? Maybe some different order harmonics in the compression or somethin. I don't know? Here is a few examples:

YouTube - Gucci Mane - Hold Dat Thought
YouTube - TRAP OR DIE II

Synthy08 · 28th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by valayah

I have lately been a fan of Zaytoven's production, but how does he get those kicks hittin so low and still sounding good? Maybe some different order harmonics in the compression or somethin. I don't know? Here is a few examples:

YouTube - Gucci Mane - Hold Dat Thought
YouTube - TRAP OR DIE II

U'd be surpised that it could be something as simple as layering a few good kicks together. HONESTLY i think thats what it is.

Charlie-O · 28th October 2009

Looks like Reason, and a perhaps a Fantom. I seen the files for some of the Gucci songs.

Powder Kutz · 28th October 2009

sounds like triggering a sine wave with the kick to me...

I'd start with good bass trapping

T. Gundersen · 28th October 2009

Try the Tape 808's from Goldbaby. He's got some good, long, distorted ones inthere, put 'em in Kontakt, tune 'em and bang away.

idlabs · 28th October 2009

Zay was at the studio here and left a few sessions of beats he sold to local artists. I, doing what any good hip-hopper would do, chopped up his drums and saved them. Don't know if they're the same as the ones in the above songs, but they're definitely Zay's.

What I can tell you about them is that they're straight off his MPC2000xl. All the 'Drops' are just laid out on the pads and played as a bass. No additional kicks on top of those. They're pretty choppy and intentionally distorted (using the filters in the MPC). These are really just run of the mill 808 samples at the end of the day.

bigblessin · 28th October 2009

all it is a 808 with some saturation. cant believe there is a thread about something so simple.

DivineMusic · 28th October 2009

i've mixed a few tracks from zay.. they're just 808's triggered from his mpc2000xl.. nothing special at all

rhodesp04 · 29th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by idlabs

Zay was at the studio here and left a few sessions of beats he sold to local artists. I, doing what any good hip-hopper would do, chopped up his drums and saved them. Don't know if they're the same as the ones in the above songs, but they're definitely Zay's.

What I can tell you about them is that they're straight off his MPC2000xl. All the 'Drops' are just laid out on the pads and played as a bass. No additional kicks on top of those. They're pretty choppy and intentionally distorted (using the filters in the MPC). These are really just run of the mill 808 samples at the end of the day.

your archive isn't working fam.

YouTube - RAW REPORT PRESENTS - Zaytoven: THE NEW BASEMENT

here's a video of him doing his thing: 2000xl, korg m3, motif rack, fantom rack. JT talks about a "processor" for the mpc in the video which could be anything all it means is that he's running them through something. it could be just a preamp haha

beat you down · 29th October 2009

lol what's with the "super producer"
seems to be popular to add to your name these days.

solidstate · 29th October 2009

Damn he's talentedthumbsup You can tell right the way when you hear zay's beat IMO. Very distinctive style

Fantom/motif seem to be a must for every dirty south "super" producer though

MYAMS · 29th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat you down

lol what's with the "super producer"
seems to be popular to add to your name these days.

Yeah I know he definitely isn't one either, it seems this new Usher single is his first step into the mainstream so super producer is a real stretch...

MikeyMike · 29th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidstate

Damn he's talentedthumbsup You can tell right the way when you hear zay's beat IMO. Very distinctive style

Fantom/motif seem to be a must for every dirty south "super" producer though

You can do way more with the Fantom/Motif than make bullshyt music like Gucci Mane and Zaytoven is making, trust me.

Freddy P · 29th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MYAMS

Yeah I know he definitely isn't one either, it seems this new Usher single is his first step into the mainstream so super producer is a real stretch...

I agree! When i think super producer, i think of a person as a contributing factor to all aspect of the track. Super Producers do this in and out on mainstream hits. I don't know exactly what he contributed to the record but like MYAMS touched on this is his first known mention in the world of mainstream.

valayah · 30th October 2009

And as you know Usher's new single "Papers" is actually from Gorrila Zoe's cd "Don't Feed The Animals". The song was called "So Sick". I guess they are reusing beats like Will I Am "Impatient" and Estelle "American Boy"

solidstate · 30th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyMike

You can do way more with the Fantom/Motif than make bullshyt music like Gucci Mane and Zaytoven is making, trust me.

Well I happen to like that bullshyt music so whatever my man.. I'm in for the $$ so if I can really make $$ with it, f**k it. I don't wanna be the one who reivent hip hop but just make some bucks with what I love to do.. Get my drift homes?

kdeuce · 30th October 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by idlabs

Zay was at the studio here and left a few sessions of beats he sold to local artists. I, doing what any good hip-hopper would do, chopped up his drums and saved them. Don't know if they're the same as the ones in the above songs, but they're definitely Zay's.

What I can tell you about them is that they're straight off his MPC2000xl. All the 'Drops' are just laid out on the pads and played as a bass. No additional kicks on top of those. They're pretty choppy and intentionally distorted (using the filters in the MPC). These are really just run of the mill 808 samples at the end of the day.

idlabs, ditto on the zip file--no files to extract. Re-post if u can. Thanks.

Derrick Camby · 31st October 2009

^theres 2 folders, MacOSX and Z Drums. The files are in the 2nd one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhodesp04

your archive isn't working fam.

Works fine for me, there 24 bit files, they wont play in Windows Media Player.

mgthefuture · 31st October 2009

Thanks you for the Z drums upload.

I mixed this set along with the other 2 Zaytoven-esque kits floating around online.

I got my kits loaded and ready for this jeezy vs gucci beat tape im doing.

I dig the tape 808 kit, redjack kit, and the modernbeats 808s still have the best kicks imo...

I mean an 808 can only be but so different.

I dig coming up with my own snare/blends though.

SampleMan · 1st November 2009

Them premade kits are bogus

azwun25 · 1st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyMike

You can do way more with the Fantom/Motif than make bullshyt music like Gucci Mane and Zaytoven is making, trust me.

You can hardly tell that that Gucci Mane track is in english. LOL. Utter trash.

MikeyMike · 1st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by solidstate

Well I happen to like that bullshyt music so whatever my man.. I'm in for the $$ so if I can really make $$ with it, f**k it. I don't wanna be the one who reivent hip hop but just make some bucks with what I love to do.. Get my drift homes?

Uhh, no

MikeyMike · 1st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by azwun25

You can hardly tell that that Gucci Mane track is in english. LOL. Utter trash.

Utter trash is absolutely right. I noticed that the average person who enjoys this guy's music is uneducated and ignorant as well.

Synthy08 · 1st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyMike

Utter trash is absolutely right. I noticed that the average person who enjoys this guy's music is uneducated and ignorant as well.

its just silly club music. I dont think its fair to generalize his entire fan base like that. especially sinces hes becoming the #1 hottest rapper in the game right now. Its not something i listen to im my house but when the beat comes on in the club im dancing to it *kanye shrug*

smoke · 1st November 2009

This sh*t is all distorted, how can you tell anything?

DivineMusic · 1st November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhodesp04

your archive isn't working fam.

YouTube - RAW REPORT PRESENTS - Zaytoven: THE NEW BASEMENT

here's a video of him doing his thing: 2000xl, korg m3, motif rack, fantom rack. JT talks about a "processor" for the mpc in the video which could be anything all it means is that he's running them through something. it could be just a preamp haha

thats old, cuz i linked with zay the other day and he's using a black mpc5000 now and a few other new things at the crib... switched up to the new sytle c24 and a few other things too

solidstate · 2nd November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeyMike

Uhh, no

OK let me brake it down for you real quick. You said i could do much better than Zay, Gucci and OJ stuff with a Fantom or a Motif. I said i don't need to. Cuz weather you like it or not they're(dirty south artists) making A LOT money with that shit right now WITHOUT being very original. Who cares if you can innovate like danja when you only need a couple of chords and a catchy hook to become a #1 chart topper?

solidstate · 2nd November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

thats old, cuz i linked with zay the other day and he's using a black mpc5000 now and a few other new things at the crib... switched up to the new sytle c24 and a few other things too

Care to share Bro

Does he use any soft synth at all? Or he's still rocking the korg/fantom/motif? Vocal chain?

DivineMusic · 2nd November 2009

he mainly uses the Korg M3 with a fantom and motif rack with the mcp5000.
if i get a chance i'll give him a call and ask about anything else...
i deal with a few artist that get tracks from him and once i mix them i give him a copy too...

as for vocal chain. its a u87ai or blueberry into the focusrite liquid channel into PT

solidstate · 2nd November 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

he mainly uses the Korg M3 with a fantom and motif rack with the mcp5000.
if i get a chance i'll give him a call and ask about anything else...
i deal with a few artist that get tracks from him and once i mix them i give him a copy too...

as for vocal chain. its a u87ai or blueberry into the focusrite liquid channel into PT

Thanks bro

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DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 2,120	i've mixed a few tracks from zay.. they're just 808's triggered from his mpc2000xl.. nothing special at all __________________ DivineMusic 2-23-07 ppl wanna praise protools like its the best thing since pu$$y fuuck

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28th October 2009	#1
valayah Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 17 Thread Starter	Zaytoven's kick drum I have lately been a fan of Zaytoven's production, but how does he get those kicks hittin so low and still sounding good? Maybe some different order harmonics in the compression or somethin. I don't know? Here is a few examples: YouTube - Gucci Mane - Hold Dat Thought YouTube - TRAP OR DIE II

28th October 2009	#4
Powder Kutz Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 83	sounds like triggering a sine wave with the kick to me... I'd start with good bass trapping

28th October 2009	#5
T. Gundersen Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 882	Try the Tape 808's from Goldbaby. He's got some good, long, distorted ones inthere, put 'em in Kontakt, tune 'em and bang away.

28th October 2009	#7
bigblessin Gear maniac Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: brussels, belgium Posts: 219	all it is a 808 with some saturation. cant believe there is a thread about something so simple.

29th October 2009	#11
solidstate Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 939	Damn he's talentedthumbsup You can tell right the way when you hear zay's beat IMO. Very distinctive style Fantom/motif seem to be a must for every dirty south "super" producer though

30th October 2009	#15
valayah Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 17 Thread Starter	And as you know Usher's new single "Papers" is actually from Gorrila Zoe's cd "Don't Feed The Animals". The song was called "So Sick". I guess they are reusing beats like Will I Am "Impatient" and Estelle "American Boy"

31st October 2009	#19
mgthefuture 3 + infractions, forum membership suspended. Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,094	Thanks you for the Z drums upload. I mixed this set along with the other 2 Zaytoven-esque kits floating around online. I got my kits loaded and ready for this jeezy vs gucci beat tape im doing. I dig the tape 808 kit, redjack kit, and the modernbeats 808s still have the best kicks imo... I mean an 808 can only be but so different. I dig coming up with my own snare/blends though.

1st November 2009	#20
SampleMan Gear maniac Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Va Posts: 160	Them premade kits are bogus

1st November 2009	#25
smoke Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,171	This sh*t is all distorted, how can you tell anything?

2nd November 2009	#29
DivineMusic Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hotlanta Posts: 2,120	he mainly uses the Korg M3 with a fantom and motif rack with the mcp5000. if i get a chance i'll give him a call and ask about anything else... i deal with a few artist that get tracks from him and once i mix them i give him a copy too... as for vocal chain. its a u87ai or blueberry into the focusrite liquid channel into PT