What do you guy's think of this track?

[overdose]

Positive and Negative Feedback Welcome.

[HDGuru]

Good song, but the mix..... If I were you I would go for a much more mono sound overall. Use mono aux returns for all your reverbs and delays, and just mix it almost strait mono except for the hook vox. Use eq to define the instruments in a mono mix, instead of panning. Don't be afraid to get extreme with the parametric. It's way clean for a ghetto record. You need to maximize the mids in the vocals, and get rid of some of the sheen. Also, bring those synth sounds up, and that organ down in the verses. Could potentially be jammin. Live bass would take it to another level as well, the synth bass is really killing the vibe.

Heres a joint with a mostly mono vibe except for the vox to give you an idea of what im saying.

http://www.tjsdjs.com/music/tangored...ght(DIRTY).mp3

[genericperson]

what he said

[mexxx-i-can]

the only thing i would say is either the main vocal or double tracked vocal is out of tune in parts and i think the synths and the claps need to be bought up in the mix i also agree that you should either record a real bass line or choose a synthy sound rather than use a synth to recreate the sound of a real bass apart from that the track is blazin

[overdose]

Thanks for the input guy's. It all helps. When mixing your own music it's good to have someone elses ears.

I don't have a really good bass player at my disposal so the track will have to keep what it has unil I can find someone who will play the part to my satisfaction.

I mixed it more mono this time around.

I also pre mastered it. A Professional job would probably bring it to where it needs to be.

[blayz2002]

Originally Posted by HDGuru

Heres a joint with a mostly mono vibe except for the vox to give you an idea of what im saying.

http://www.tjsdjs.com/music/tangored...ght(DIRTY).mp3

Hey that's a nice track bruv. Nice keys and drums...I think the hats a need a little compression thouhg they intrude into the vox's a bit....Has this been signed or released?

[HDGuru]

Originally Posted by blayz2002

Hey that's a nice track bruv. Nice keys and drums...I think the hats a need a little compression thouhg they intrude into the vox's a bit....Has this been signed or released?

Not sure if he got a deal or what. Mixed it ITB for my homeboy a while back under the worst room conditions imaginable. Yea I wish I could go back and squeeze those hats a bit more, but.. too late.

Huge improvement there overdose, I'm feelin it now, much stronger sounding in mono. The stereo synth adds some nice ear candy over the mono track. I'd like to hear a touch more 3 second warm plate on her vox, a bit more compression on the raps (faster attack, 8 - 12 ms on the main track, 4ms or less on the libs) and make those timpani sound heavier/more compressed and I think your there. Ima send you a bill!

[overdose]

With as many views as this got and only 6 reviews. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by overdose

Thanks for the input guy's. It all helps. When mixing your own music it's good to have someone elses ears.

I don't have a really good bass player at my disposal so the track will have to keep what it has unil I can find someone who will play the part to my satisfaction.

I mixed it more mono this time around.

I also pre mastered it. A Professional job would probably bring it to where it needs to be.

Personally i liked the first mix better.

It just lacks depth,size and girth(the low mids).

Its a little 2D sounding.

Characteristic with what you hear in mixes that are done ITB.

The mono mix is a little hazy sounding.

It steals the clarity away.

I would focus on making the middle of the song thicker and with more weight.

The lead vocal with its double needs to be more centered.

The choruses need to be wider and more lush.

Same goes for the little synth sound going through out the song.

I would have it pan from right to left with a little delay from time to time.

Just my 2 cents.

[overdose]

I find I have a very hard time mixing in my room. 8 ft ceiling. 10' by 10' room. I have auralex foam on my walls, and only have 4 of the corner traps. That most likely is where my problem lies. My bass never sounds right to me. It sounds great here in the room, but never translates properly.

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by overdose

I find I have a very hard time mixing in my room. 8 ft ceiling. 10' by 10' room. I have auralex foam on my walls, and only have 4 of the corner traps. That most likely is where my problem lies. My bass never sounds right to me. It sounds great here in the room, but never translates properly.

What do you monitor on?

Your dimensions aren't as bad as you would think.

I think getting the bass right in any style is tough especially in rap.

I don't think though on your track the bass is as much of problem as it is the lack of depth.

[overdose]

Mackie 824's. How would you go about adding depth? Sometimes I feel like I need my ears checked. I have so many good songs but I feel all my mixes are lacking depth.

[overdose]

I'll give you a rundown on my equipment I use. Motu 828 "version 1" I track all my synths and keyboards through it. I know, I know. I need to get more slutty and get an apogee Rosetta, but I haven't had the cash for extra purchases.
I use a Focusrite Voice Master Pro as my Mic Pre and a Rode NT1000 as my mic. I also have a Shure KSM32 but I never use it. I thought my vocals were more upfront with the Rode. "Again I know I need a Sony 800G and a Neve 1073 with a couple of Great River Pre's and Eq's. And that SSL, but for now. I must use what my wife allow's
I use Waves Ren Vox for my vocal comp
and UAD-1 plugs as well as the plugs that came with DP4.6

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by overdose

Mackie 824's. How would you go about adding depth? Sometimes I feel like I need my ears checked. I have so many good songs but I feel all my mixes are lacking depth.

You know i was gonna guess Mackie.

Most of the mixes i've heard coming of the Mackie have the slight smiley face curve.

Mackies work best in a midfield position than as a nearfield.

As a nearfield the bass is enhanced.


Push them back at least 5' the bass is more relaxed and natural.

How do you add depth?

Its a tricky question.

Sometimes its with the right effects.

Other times with the right dynamic/EQ combinations.

A lot of it is perspective.

If everything is in the front and in your face your mix will be present but usually edgy.

If its a little too far back it will come across as being too soft and mellow.

The trick is finding the balance between the 2.

Somethings need to be up and present(in hiphop its the kick,snare,bass and vocals).

While other things need to be more in the background.

I would say the the stuff that needs to be forward or up needs to be both present and thick.

The stuff in the background can be a little bit more mellow and effected.

The sides need to be left alone only for those times you need to make a statement(usually itsthe chorus).

[Blood Eye]

Got access to VocAlign? Try it if you do.

The snare should have more bottom end. Make it big and southern.

If possible add more stacks to the hook. Go for a bigger sound, her solo at the end should be doubled too.

Add somethign in the intro. Have the emcee talking or something. Scratches maybe.

I like the emcee vocal. Maybe another track of adlibs (doubled).

- blood eye