help making beats

floridaboi77 · 26th April 2009

yo ive been foolin around on fl studio and im seriously becoming addicted.ive be making beats all day for a week or two now and i want to take this a little more seriously. right now all ive been using is fl studio and the plugins but i want to get some equipment so i can have a little more freedom with the sounds i want. i want to get a keyboard and a beatbox to start with i dont have the biggest budget but i want something quality for a decent price. help me out here whats good for the money and what i really need. get back to me.

phillysoulman · 26th April 2009

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Originally Posted by floridaboi77

yo ive been foolin around on fl studio and im seriously becoming addicted.ive be making beats all day for a week or two now and i want to take this a little more seriously. right now all ive been using is fl studio and the plugins but i want to get some equipment so i can have a little more freedom with the sounds i want. i want to get a keyboard and a beatbox to start with i dont have the biggest budget but i want something quality for a decent price. help me out here whats good for the money and what i really need. get back to me.

How much do you have to spend?

KevWest · 27th April 2009

cheapest way to go is keep fl get sample tank and proteus x a midi keyboard and get crackin

Magic Theatre · 29th April 2009

I think Battery 3 and Sampletank 2.5, would be the best places to start.

Or if you want a more electronic synthesized sound, you could go for Sylenth, Vanguard or Z3ta, instead of Sampletank.

ToneCre8 · 29th April 2009

Save your money and read for about 6-9 more months. It's somewhat free.

azrael kennedy · 1st May 2009

get ableton live, NI Battery, NI Komplete Synths... This should keep you occupied for a while. If you don't have that much money then get Reason...

Storyville · 1st May 2009

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Originally Posted by azrael kennedy

get ableton live, NI Battery, NI Komplete Synths... This should keep you occupied for a while. If you don't have that much money then get Reason...

Reason.

It's a very good program.

wakestyle · 1st May 2009

whoa, that is like the broadest question...

what kind of sounds? what kind of music? I assume you want hardware (which is great when controlled from fl). Depending if you program everything or want to play it. Having a great controller is important for easy access for editing parameters. Probably a multi-timbral keyboard that can generate 16 separate channels. If you don't need keys to play you could get a rackmount unit to save some space.

goldenlotus · 1st May 2009

I'd recommend grabbing Reason or Logic and calling it a day. The present and future are digital.

E.rOk.stA · 1st May 2009

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Originally Posted by Magic Theatre

I think Battery 3 and Sampletank 2.5, would be the best places to start.

My sentiments exactly.

dhiltonlittle · 1st May 2009

get a cheap protools setup and some drum samples.

program on the grid and use xpand.

bino_5150 · 2nd May 2009

Man, between FL and Reason, there really isn't too much that you can't do... high quality sounds are pretty easy to come by on the net free with some googling. The Rewire feature makes it a breeze to get both programs to work together as a cohesive unit, which streamlines production a lot.

I also have an Akai MPD pad if I get the urge to bang out my drums in FL the old school way, and my Roland XP-60 (which also has a ton of great sounds) doubles as a midi controller for Reason.

Most all of my aftermarket plugins are availble in FL, but I just sequence there, and export the beat tracked out and do all of my mixing in Audition.

I have Acid and some other programs as well, but I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I've used them...

People usually prefer one software over another for whatever reason, but with my current setup and the sounds available, I really don't see the need for any more software. The better your production skills become, and the more experience you get under your belt, you'll find that what software or hardware you're using really becomes irrelevant.

My opinion would be that you're on the right track with FL, but you might want to check out Reason as well, or at least something better suited to instrumentation to get those sounds you're craving.

vespesian · 2nd May 2009

Guru.

wakestyle · 2nd May 2009

Reason and Fl studio are great little tools, but I know for a fact that the reason mixer sux bigtime. So if you wanna get serious about it, you gotta at least consider alot better mixing enviroment like protools, cubase, or even a mixing desk. Those programs are going to have a lot better sound if you run them through a better mixer. Doing every thing digitally is one way to do it, but you can benefeit alot from expanding too.

daexpert · 2nd May 2009

Sampletank sounds thin as hell. Get one of those racks. Like a motif or fantom.

KEYBEEETSSS · 2nd May 2009

Playstation

voicegenius · 2nd May 2009

eJay

B.A.S.E · 2nd May 2009

fl studio any day... but you will have to buy plugins and sounds...
otherwise, i think the next best thing is Logic but only available on mac...

bigstig · 2nd May 2009

If its hardware you want this answer is easy. Go to whatever guitar center/sam ash/etc. is around you and play around with all the keys/pads until you find you find what you like.

jikky · 2nd May 2009

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Originally Posted by KEYBEEETSSS

Playstation

MTV Music Generator 1

I ain't lyin!!!!

KEYBEEETSSS · 2nd May 2009

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Originally Posted by jikky

MTV Music Generator 1

I ain't lyin!!!!

Me neither; a guy came to my studio with a Playstation 1 & Isaid dude I got Playstation 2 & 3; He said,m "Naw, I got the beat on here on this memory card

jikky · 2nd May 2009

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Originally Posted by KEYBEEETSSS

Me neither; a guy came to my studio with a Playstation 1 & Isaid dude I got Playstation 2 & 3; He said,m "Naw, I got the beat on here on this memory card

Lol I used to be that guy. Roll in the studio with a playstation and a 9 inch box tv. I keep it around now to remind me how far I've come lol. Here's a pic of mine. I couldn't find the memory card tho. Hahaaaa you woulda really been accusing me of being that guy!!!! ROFLMAO!!!

Tibbon · 2nd May 2009

The search button, use it. This has been asked 1000 times. Also, if you want people to take you more seriously then you might consider writing more seriously.

KEYBEEETSSS · 2nd May 2009

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Originally Posted by jikky

Lol I used to be that guy. Roll in the studio with a playstation and a 9 inch box tv. I keep it around now to remind me how far I've come lol. Here's a pic of mine. I couldn't find the memory card tho. Hahaaaa you woulda really been accusing me of being that guy!!!! ROFLMAO!!!

Attachment 120004

Nicse

bino_5150 · 3rd May 2009

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Originally Posted by wakestyle

Reason and Fl studio are great little tools, but I know for a fact that the reason mixer sux bigtime. So if you wanna get serious about it, you gotta at least consider alot better mixing enviroment like protools, cubase, or even a mixing desk. Those programs are going to have a lot better sound if you run them through a better mixer. Doing every thing digitally is one way to do it, but you can benefeit alot from expanding too.

It's true, for some reason the mixing engine in Reason is something that a lot of people complain about. However, that's not an issue for me because I track everything out and mix in Audition

I haven't actually tried it yet (because I have no need to really),but I heard that they cleaned up internal mixer for Reason 4.

rhizomeman · 3rd May 2009

+1 for Battery. Great sounding drum samples and software at a reasonable price.

26th April 2009	#1
floridaboi77 Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2 Thread Starter	help making beats yo ive been foolin around on fl studio and im seriously becoming addicted.ive be making beats all day for a week or two now and i want to take this a little more seriously. right now all ive been using is fl studio and the plugins but i want to get some equipment so i can have a little more freedom with the sounds i want. i want to get a keyboard and a beatbox to start with i dont have the biggest budget but i want something quality for a decent price. help me out here whats good for the money and what i really need. get back to me.

27th April 2009	#3
KevWest Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,640	cheapest way to go is keep fl get sample tank and proteus x a midi keyboard and get crackin __________________

29th April 2009	#4
Magic Theatre Gear addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 354	I think Battery 3 and Sampletank 2.5, would be the best places to start. Or if you want a more electronic synthesized sound, you could go for Sylenth, Vanguard or Z3ta, instead of Sampletank. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/DanDelaneyBeats

29th April 2009	#5
ToneCre8 Gear addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 397	Save your money and read for about 6-9 more months. It's somewhat free. __________________ Tone

1st May 2009	#8
wakestyle Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,584	whoa, that is like the broadest question... what kind of sounds? what kind of music? I assume you want hardware (which is great when controlled from fl). Depending if you program everything or want to play it. Having a great controller is important for easy access for editing parameters. Probably a multi-timbral keyboard that can generate 16 separate channels. If you don't need keys to play you could get a rackmount unit to save some space. __________________ It could be different on a mac...

1st May 2009	#9
goldenlotus Lives for gear Join Date: May 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,132	I'd recommend grabbing Reason or Logic and calling it a day. The present and future are digital.

1st May 2009	#11
dhiltonlittle Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 2,618	get a cheap protools setup and some drum samples. program on the grid and use xpand. __________________ DL

2nd May 2009	#12
bino_5150 Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 316	Man, between FL and Reason, there really isn't too much that you can't do... high quality sounds are pretty easy to come by on the net free with some googling. The Rewire feature makes it a breeze to get both programs to work together as a cohesive unit, which streamlines production a lot. I also have an Akai MPD pad if I get the urge to bang out my drums in FL the old school way, and my Roland XP-60 (which also has a ton of great sounds) doubles as a midi controller for Reason. Most all of my aftermarket plugins are availble in FL, but I just sequence there, and export the beat tracked out and do all of my mixing in Audition. I have Acid and some other programs as well, but I honestly couldn't tell you the last time I've used them... People usually prefer one software over another for whatever reason, but with my current setup and the sounds available, I really don't see the need for any more software. The better your production skills become, and the more experience you get under your belt, you'll find that what software or hardware you're using really becomes irrelevant. My opinion would be that you're on the right track with FL, but you might want to check out Reason as well, or at least something better suited to instrumentation to get those sounds you're craving. __________________ BINO of MO THUGS RECORDS www.myspace.com/bino5150 bino5150@yahoo.com "So we da best like that DJ Khaled guy, and what I really mean when I say we, - is I..." ~BINO, from "Ride Out", available for download on myspace.

2nd May 2009	#13
vespesian Gear Head Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 71	Guru.

2nd May 2009	#15
daexpert Gear interested Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 9	Sampletank sounds thin as hell. Get one of those racks. Like a motif or fantom.

2nd May 2009	#16
KEYBEEETSSS Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 2,044	Playstation

2nd May 2009	#17
voicegenius Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 2,362	eJay

2nd May 2009	#18
B.A.S.E Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: London Posts: 318	fl studio any day... but you will have to buy plugins and sounds... otherwise, i think the next best thing is Logic but only available on mac...

2nd May 2009	#19
bigstig Gear maniac Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 258	If its hardware you want this answer is easy. Go to whatever guitar center/sam ash/etc. is around you and play around with all the keys/pads until you find you find what you like.

2nd May 2009	#23
Tibbon Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Boston/MA Posts: 4,774 2 Reviews written	The search button, use it. This has been asked 1000 times. Also, if you want people to take you more seriously then you might consider writing more seriously. __________________ David Fisher (aka tibbon) What is Noise, Blog (DIY, gear, tech, etc) Follow me on Twitter imVOX- Voice for Gamers WTB: Moog Theremin Signature Edition

3rd May 2009	#26
rhizomeman Lives for gear Join Date: May 2008 Location: Memphis Posts: 639	battery +1 for Battery. Great sounding drum samples and software at a reasonable price.

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