A Good Microphone for hip hop vocals?

[TheMailman]

I've narrowed it down to the MXL Genesis, M-Audio Sputnik, AKG C214, or the Sterling Audio ST79, and i've included a sample of my voice. any help would be appreciated.

[NesNeedsGear]

I was recently at a well-respected studio here in NY, and noticed they had a modest vocal chain (but the whole PTHD setup)...

Shure KSM44 ~> Avalon sp737 vt ~> PTHD

BIG BIG sound coming out of there.

Now I've never heard any of those 4 mics you posted, but for the same price, I can recommend the Shure KSM44/737 vt and vouch for the end results.

Some folks like that Groove Tubes GT67.

[XHipHop]

Originally Posted by TheMailman

I've narrowed it down to the MXL Genesis, M-Audio Sputnik, AKG C214, or the Sterling Audio ST79, and i've included a sample of my voice. any help would be appreciated.

what made you narrow it down to those mics? i've only even heard of 2 of them before... just curious. maybe i'll want to check them out.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by TheMailman

I've narrowed it down to the MXL Genesis, M-Audio Sputnik, AKG C214, or the Sterling Audio ST79, and i've included a sample of my voice. any help would be appreciated.

Geez,here we go again...another stupid "hip hop mike question"
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.

Just throw up about three or four mikes and have your performer "spit"(not literally of course) and just a-b the results and...VOILA!!!
Just like magic,the answer will be obvious...or atl east it should to the trained ear.

BTW..you cant go wrong with a Shure sm7b in most cases.

[TheMailman]

thanks for the suggestions guys. well appreciated.

[Chris Lago]

Way to go to put it in 2 different forums... Geeze!

[Docmattic]

sm7b or beesneez james. Both utterly fantastic for price.

sm7 $350us
BNJ: $900us

[fingerbeats]

I wouldnt say it was a stupid question he just wants to know a good mic for hip hop vocals!
I would of addressed it the same way!

But all aside sm7b

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Geez,here we go again...another stupid "hip hop mike question"
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.

Just throw up about three or four mikes and have your performer "spit"(not literally of course) and just a-b the results and...VOILA!!!
Just like magic,the answer will be obvious...or atl east it should to the trained ear.

BTW..you cant go wrong with a Shure sm7b in most cases.

[LeMauce]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

BTW..you cant go wrong with a Shure sm7b in most cases.

Ok ok ok I dig that, but also the EV-20.
But normal there isnt THE BEST mic. You have to try out what fits you/the singer/rapper. I had c12 and a brauner valvet X on a rappers voice that just don't sound right true a la-610 strip. He had his behringer B2pro with him, I did a take... and hell it just sound right in to the mix. It just depends on the moment and the voice of the artist that make the take.

[DivineMusic]

as said there's no such thing as a hiphop vocal mic LOL
of the mics listed i've dealt all of them but the Sterling...
i'd personally choose the Genesis over the others but it depends on the pre your using also..
dont forget to check out
AT4050
Rode K2
Majave 201

on a budget

[Ozark_20]

i can 100% vouch for sterling audio, i currently use a sterling audio ST66 in my studio regularly for hip hop vocalz and if u know how to use the right compression along with gettin a good signal then ur set

[AND]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Geez,here we go again...another stupid "hip hop mike question"
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.

Just throw up about three or four mikes and have your performer "spit"(not literally of course) and just a-b the results and...VOILA!!!
Just like magic,the answer will be obvious...or atl east it should to the trained ear.

BTW..you cant go wrong with a Shure sm7b in most cases.

+1..

Whats the best drum set for hip hop..( Insert sample)

[e-are]

[quote=phillysoulman;4023068]
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.


Don't know of a mic thats genre specific. People have said that already so anyway, what pre are you using? I set a friend of mine up with a focusrite platinum pre and a sm7b. Sounds good for the lil dough. I would suggest that combo.
Good Luck.

[e-are]

Originally Posted by AND

+1..

Whats the best drum set for hip hop..( Insert sample)

I think Battery is the best drum set 4 hip hop. No stix or foot pedal needed too!!

[mistaD]

Originally Posted by Docmattic

sm7b or beesneez james. Both utterly fantastic for price.

sm7 $350us
BNJ: $900us

Took the words right out om my mouth!

[Rednose]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Geez,here we go again...another stupid "hip hop mike question"
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.

Just throw up about three or four mikes and have your performer "spit"(not literally of course) and just a-b the results and...VOILA!!!
Just like magic,the answer will be obvious...or atl east it should to the trained ear.

BTW..you cant go wrong with a Shure sm7b in most cases.

Good advice!
Its also good to leave another mic up for different textures on dubs and ad libs.

That being said, I've had great results with the AT 4050, EV PL 20 (the older RE 20) and even the Blueberry on some sources.

The NT1a is OK, I'll use it on ad libs, thats about it.

I noticed a huge difference when I upgraded my pres to API 512c and UA Solo 610.

[Darwin James]

I will second the Mojave MA-201 FET

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by AND

+1..

Whats the best drum set for hip hop..( Insert sample)

Yo son...whut be the bestest 808 kick,yo!!
I wants dat phat storchadelic-timbofonic kinda jaun...feel me son??

[Tha Wiizard]

Philly, do you have any experience with the Neumann TLM 67 on hip-hop vocals? Ive heard some recording done with that mic and it seems to fit a variety of vocals. Sounds amazing.

[Docmattic]

i'll say it again...
beesneez james=fantastic at any price

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Geez,here we go again...another stupid "hip hop mike question"
There is no such thing as a hip hop mike,dude.

I guess the argument could be made that there is a mic that would work well for many hip hop vocals. For instance, a microphone that has less sibilant tendencies would be one quality that we would look for in this type of mic. Also, maybe something with a brighter top end in a condenser, etc.

But, there is no rap vocal mic. Except for this thing I have on my desk, but we can't talk about that.

[AND]

Originally Posted by e-are

I think Battery is the best drum set 4 hip hop. No stix or foot pedal needed too!!

I stopped useing battery a long time ago cuz it would always give me a double hit when I would play on the keyboard!!

I use ezdrummer and addicitive drums now...but I have to use sticks with my v-drums...I sure miss playing the real thing though...

[AND]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Yo son...whut be the bestest 808 kick,yo!!
I wants dat phat storchadelic-timbofonic kinda jaun...feel me son??

Oops, sorry..you want the studio down the road.ya the one with no instruments in it

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Tha Wiizard

Philly, do you have any experience with the Neumann TLM 67 on hip-hop vocals? Ive heard some recording done with that mic and it seems to fit a variety of vocals. Sounds amazing.

Never tried the TLM 67.
I have however,used an original Neumann U-67 back in the day
Awesome mike.

Also, I reiterate..for me vocals are just vocals and NOT genre specific.
Its either good or bad...male or female with timbres which are artist specific.

[Tha Wiizard]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Never tried the TLM 67.
I have however,used an original Neumann U-67 back in the day
Awesome mike.

Also, I reiterate..for me vocals are just vocals and NOT genre specific.
Its either good or bad...male or female with timbres which are artist specific.

Thanks Philly for the response. By the way, I just plugged up my keyboard to my studio monitors using Gotham GAC-2 balanced TRS cables and oh my goodness. The sound difference between these an my old cables are rediculous. It sounds like I upgraded my da converter or something, LOL. Im pretty sure you got decent cables but you and the rest may wanna check these out.thumbsup

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

I guess the argument could be made that there is a mic that would work well for many hip hop vocals. For instance, a microphone that has less sibilant tendencies would be one quality that we would look for in this type of mic. Also, maybe something with a brighter top end in a condenser, etc.

But, there is no rap vocal mic. Except for this thing I have on my desk, but we can't talk about that.

Hey tony, when's the new Neumann Hiphop vocal mic coming out?
and what about the Budget yet platinum sounding hiphop vocal mic, i heard it only cost $100 and sounds better than a c800g LMFAO

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

Hey tony, when's the new Neumann Hiphop vocal mic coming out?
and what about the Budget yet platinum sounding hiphop vocal mic, i heard it only cost $100 and sounds better than a c800g LMFAO

Yeah son.. its the New-Man Toob Rap-O-Fonic 801 A with the Dre mod

Phat shit son....

[voicegenius]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Yeah son.. its the New-Man Toob Rap-O-Fonic 801 A with the Dre mod

Phat shit son....

Apple is coming out with one too called the iMic... Guaranteed to adjust to ANY genre... Especially Hip Hop...

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by DivineMusic

Hey tony, when's the new Neumann Hiphop vocal mic coming out?
and what about the Budget yet platinum sounding hiphop vocal mic, i heard it only cost $100 and sounds better than a c800g LMFAO

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Yeah son.. its the New-Man Toob Rap-O-Fonic 801 A with the Dre mod

Phat shit son....

[DivineMusic]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Yeah son.. its the New-Man Toob Rap-O-Fonic 801 A with the Dre mod

Phat shit son....

philly.. we gotta get them...!!!
you put me on to the adk's last year, now the rap-o-fonic...

ok ok, all jokes aside. no such thing as a hiphop mic or hiphop pre, hiphop monitors etc.. somethings are used more in the hiphop field but that means nothing.. dont blend it with everyone else b/c they have a u87/737 combo...
its cool but a i could spend the same or less and have a vocal chain that will blow that combo away