23rd January 2009
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#1 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles/St. Louis
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Thread Starter | What instrument typically gets started first during the mix?
I tend to start with the kick and drums and bring every other instrument in one by one, but then I get mixes that are definitely drum heavy, for those that mix on the regular what's ur thoughts?
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23rd January 2009
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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for me it really depends on the style and most of all the particular track i'm working with.
in most cases, with a hip hop/rnb track i like to start with the drums, then vocals, then bass. everything else falls in place a a lot easier once those elements are in place for me.
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23rd January 2009
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#3 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando
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For a song, I like to start with vocals and drums.
For a beat, I get the kick and snare right first.
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23rd January 2009
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#4 | | Gear Head
Joined: Sep 2008 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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same here... drums, bass, vox
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23rd January 2009
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#5 | | Gear Guru
Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Miami FL
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generally drums. kick and snare, then bass, then any other drums i put in roughly, then vocals, then go back and polish up drums and bass, then all the other stuff.
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23rd January 2009
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#6 | | Gear maniac
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Drums, bass, melodic hook (lead synth), tonal rhythmic elements (arpegiators or trancegated synths), pads.
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23rd January 2009
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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I start with no idea what I want, load up a synth or rompler and try and create a patch until the inspiration comes. Sometimes a certain patch will call for a certain key or tone, and you go with it. Get a melody going, and make a beat to it. Or sometimes you have to adjust the drums so they drive the rhythm 1st, but that depends on the type of beat. For me making drums first limits musical possibility.
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23rd January 2009
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#8 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by smoke I start with no idea what I want, load up a synth or rompler and try and create a patch until the inspiration comes. Sometimes a certain patch will call for a certain key or tone, and you go with it. Get a melody going, and make a beat to it. Or sometimes you have to adjust the drums so they drive the rhythm 1st, but that depends on the type of beat. For me making drums first limits musical possibility. | When mixing, he said
I usually start with everything at once.. I bounce around a lot and build things up in tandom.. but vocals are very important
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23rd January 2009
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#9 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by coyotekells When mixing, he said | LOL this is true. |
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24th January 2009
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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First, I always make a rough mix of all the tracks together in mono (no panning, no stereo spread, etc.) with no EQ, compression, or effects. I spend a good amount of time getting this balance right. Then while still listening to all the tracks, I start asking myself what is wrong and I fix the problems as I hear them. Sometimes I will focus more on one area (like the drums) and then move to another as things change. Mixing is about getting the interaction of all the sounds right together, not just the sections in isolation. I never use solo except to isolate and find problems.
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24th January 2009
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Methlab For a song, I like to start with vocals and drums.
For a beat, I get the kick and snare right first. |
same here
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24th January 2009
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Lead vocal and kick drum
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24th January 2009
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#13 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2008
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The mixing engineer's handbook
by Bobby Owsinski
great tips on starting and the foundations of a mix
also great interviews
a book thats handy to have around
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24th January 2009
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Kick,Snare,beat, vox and then blend the toooo.
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24th January 2009
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#15 | | Lives for gear
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kicks +bass
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24th January 2009
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#16 | | Gear nut
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I spend 10 - 20 minutes getting a scratch mix with no efx but just panning and levels so I can hear how the song holds together. Then I mute everything and work on the lead vocal followed by the kick and bass, snare, hats, pad, backing vocals, the rest.
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24th January 2009
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#17 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2005
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Originally Posted by jaglesis The mixing engineer's handbook
by Bobby Owsinski
great tips on starting and the foundations of a mix
also great interviews
a book thats handy to have around | +1 for Bob Owenski. The bread and butter. I also like Tim's Recording Tips book. Plus of course gearslutz.
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25th January 2009
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#18 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles
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Whatever I watch the engineer start with, cuz I'm no engineer...
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25th January 2009
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#19 | | Gear addict
Joined: Dec 2008
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Me too, Drums 1st, then Vocals, once they sound good, the rest is easy.
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26th January 2009
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#20 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2007 Location: Bangkok, THAILAND
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Originally Posted by phillysoulman Lead vocal and kick drum | Curious...why?
I usually start with the drum track (snare kick and hi-hat/fill-ins) since that is outline of the track.
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26th January 2009
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#21 | | dudeguykhed.
Joined: May 2005 Location: Slum-a-ville, Mass
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Originally Posted by staudio First, I always make a rough mix of all the tracks together in mono (no panning, no stereo spread, etc.) with no EQ, compression, or effects. I spend a good amount of time getting this balance right. Then while still listening to all the tracks, I start asking myself what is wrong and I fix the problems as I hear them. Sometimes I will focus more on one area (like the drums) and then move to another as things change. Mixing is about getting the interaction of all the sounds right together, not just the sections in isolation. I never use solo except to isolate and find problems. | Boo yah.
Once I get a rough balance going, though, I tend to kill everything but the drums, bass (if there is one), and vocals. If that core is down and bangin', the other elements are easy to drop into place.
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