Getting Sounds to sound like Samples?

heartbeat · 22nd January 2009, 08:00 AM

This may sound like a weird question, but do you guys have any tips on getting sounds (especially horns and strings) to sound like vinyl samples? Thanks.

Magic Theatre · 22nd January 2009, 09:29 AM

You could use this

iZotope Vinyl - Authentic Lo-Fi Vinyl Simulation for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX audio applications

piccazzo · 22nd January 2009, 10:10 AM

U Might wanna check these out 2

112db - Morgana

D16 - Decimort

T. Gundersen · 22nd January 2009, 01:02 PM

You can also do kind of what you're making it sound like.. Playing the "sample" piece, arrange it and mix it somewhat, making it sound like a record. Maybe overdo it a bit so it sounds real gritty. Then sample it.

I rarely sample anyone but myself. I work in a beatmaking team, and sometimes I arrange a piece with some piano, strings, bas and maybe a little percussion, and leave it up to my partner to sample it and make the beat. Challenge eachother a bit with those kinds of assignments. You can easily do it on the net as well, if you don't have a real life sparring partner to work with.

sardi · 22nd January 2009, 02:07 PM

Or do a search and find loads of responses for what you want to do.

This topic has been raised loads of times - even quite recently.

phillysoulman · 22nd January 2009, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heartbeat

This may sound like a weird question, but do you guys have any tips on getting sounds (especially horns and strings) to sound like vinyl samples? Thanks.

Run your sounds out into your tracking room(if you have one) and set a mike or two about 6 feet back to capture some air.
Buy Speakerphone from Audioease.
Go through the myriad pf possibilities and find one you like,or as previously mentioned,Izotope Vinyl.

JaeOne3345 · 22nd January 2009, 04:34 PM

Buy a 12 bit rack sampler for cheap.

Take your recorded music, and speed it up about 6 semitones in any DAW or editor. Sample it at this speed into the 12 bit rack sampler. Pitch it down 6 semitones in the 12 bit rack sampler. Record back into your DAW or whatever you use for recording.

Should be a bit dirtier.

Methlab · 22nd January 2009, 04:41 PM

Use a sampler that can bit crush!

JaeOne3345 · 22nd January 2009, 05:15 PM

A sampler with a adjustable rates is cool, but any of the newer samplers that have a "bit reduction" feature just sound corny in my opinion.

For example my mpc 1000 with the JJ OS has a bit reduction where I can convert a sample to 12 bits, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as my sp-1200, s950, or even my 16 bit eps16+ on lower rates.

Methlab · 22nd January 2009, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeOne3345

A sampler with a adjustable rates is cool, but any of the newer samplers that have a "bit reduction" feature just sound corny in my opinion.

For example my mpc 1000 with the JJ OS has a bit reduction where I can convert a sample to 12 bits, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as my sp-1200, s950, or even my 16 bit eps16+ on lower rates.

No, the Sp12 is magic, and we all know that. There is really nothing that sounds like it, which is why guys like Mannie Fresh still resample into that thing before finishing a beat.

heartbeat · 22nd January 2009, 05:54 PM

Thanks for the responses guys! I'll try out some of the tips here. Also I have a really nice Fender Reverb Guitar Amp coming in the mail this week. Maybe I'll try running some of my sounds through that and then rerecording them.

Magic Theatre · 22nd January 2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Run your sounds out into your tracking room(if you have one) and set a mike or two about 6 feet back to capture some air.
Buy Speakerphone from Audioease.
Go through the myriad pf possibilities and find one you like,or as previously mentioned,Izotope Vinyl.

Man, I love Speakerphone, great plugin, just wanted to say that!

Jermaine · 22nd January 2009, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeOne3345

A sampler with a adjustable rates is cool, but any of the newer samplers that have a "bit reduction" feature just sound corny in my opinion.

For example my mpc 1000 with the JJ OS has a bit reduction where I can convert a sample to 12 bits, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as my sp-1200, s950, or even my 16 bit eps16+ on lower rates.

true words!!! if you want vinyl sound --> use vinyl!!! and work like the old school producer, no recycle or other toy shit. damn, i hate those threads.. every week the same..

dj! (112dB) · 26th January 2009, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeOne3345

A sampler with a adjustable rates is cool, but any of the newer samplers that have a "bit reduction" feature just sound corny in my opinion.

For example my mpc 1000 with the JJ OS has a bit reduction where I can convert a sample to 12 bits, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as my sp-1200, s950, or even my 16 bit eps16+ on lower rates.

For most DAW samplers I'd agree but you owe it to youself to check out our Morgana. I won't spam this topic with marketing blurbs but to quote one of our customers: Morgana reminds me so much of the sound of the Mirage it's scary.

Take care,

-- dj!

7thangelz · 26th January 2009, 05:03 PM

well if you don't have my beloved eps or eps+/asr 10 or a s900/950 (always found it kind clean, imo, but i hear you can find them cheap now) or sp12/1200...

you can add these to the other things mentioned

otiumfx sonitex

the tried and true, and hard to find, odaku effect and/or it's easier to find odaku effect 2

colortone pro or nebula 3, both have 'sampled' samplers (goldbaby has a mpc60 one for colortone pro)

or run shit through an amp or reamping, especially bass and keys/pads

there's so many ways if you have the time and inclination

jrides · 26th January 2009, 06:58 PM

Dubplates

JaeOne3345 · 26th January 2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj!

For most DAW samplers I'd agree but you owe it to youself to check out our Morgana. I won't spam this topic with marketing blurbs but to quote one of our customers: Morgana reminds me so much of the sound of the Mirage it's scary.

Take care,

-- dj!

My father and I both tried your software. It's cool. It's definitely one of the better emulations I have heard, but I could hear some differences naturally. I am not knocking your product. I thin it is great, but I have 12 bit samplers, so I don't really need to bother with any emulation.

Most of these other bit reduction/crusher plug ins I hear are a joke though.

dj! (112dB) · 27th January 2009, 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaeOne3345

My father and I both tried your software. It's cool. It's definitely one of the better emulations I have heard, but I could hear some differences naturally.

Thanks much! There's bound to be some differences, as we found out no two Mirage's sound identical even. For development we teamed up with a number of Mirage owners and didn't stop until they agreed that Morgana sounded like a Mirage--not necessarily their particular Mirage. :)

But glad to hear you liked it.

Peace,

-- dj!

Guy Gabriel · 27th January 2009, 11:11 AM

wow that iZotope Vinyl sounds AMAZING, i just downloaded it and some of the presets there really give you that dirty sample feel.
I've been looking for this kind of thing for a long time, thanks.

The Beatsmith · 27th January 2009, 12:45 PM

yeah, you gotta add tape effects (massey, VW, etc), and amping effects (guitar amp pro, guitar rig etc), but honestly it's more to do with the way you play it

smoke · 27th January 2009, 02:28 PM

+1 Morgana.

Sounds great and is a well designed piece of software.

22nd January 2009, 08:00 AM	#1
heartbeat Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	Getting Sounds to sound like Samples? This may sound like a weird question, but do you guys have any tips on getting sounds (especially horns and strings) to sound like vinyl samples? Thanks.

22nd January 2009, 02:07 PM	#5
sardi Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,015	Or do a search and find loads of responses for what you want to do. This topic has been raised loads of times - even quite recently. __________________ Available & forthcoming releases: http://www.myspace.com/sardisonics

22nd January 2009, 04:34 PM	#7
JaeOne3345 Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,108	Buy a 12 bit rack sampler for cheap. Take your recorded music, and speed it up about 6 semitones in any DAW or editor. Sample it at this speed into the 12 bit rack sampler. Pitch it down 6 semitones in the 12 bit rack sampler. Record back into your DAW or whatever you use for recording. Should be a bit dirtier. __________________ "but if i put it in a verse, yall would rather listen to some bullsh*t first"

22nd January 2009, 05:15 PM	#9
JaeOne3345 Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,108	A sampler with a adjustable rates is cool, but any of the newer samplers that have a "bit reduction" feature just sound corny in my opinion. For example my mpc 1000 with the JJ OS has a bit reduction where I can convert a sample to 12 bits, but it doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as my sp-1200, s950, or even my 16 bit eps16+ on lower rates. __________________ "but if i put it in a verse, yall would rather listen to some bullsh*t first"

26th January 2009, 05:03 PM	#15
7thangelz Gear addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: toronto Posts: 419	well if you don't have my beloved eps or eps+/asr 10 or a s900/950 (always found it kind clean, imo, but i hear you can find them cheap now) or sp12/1200... you can add these to the other things mentioned otiumfx sonitex the tried and true, and hard to find, odaku effect and/or it's easier to find odaku effect 2 colortone pro or nebula 3, both have 'sampled' samplers (goldbaby has a mpc60 one for colortone pro) or run shit through an amp or reamping, especially bass and keys/pads there's so many ways if you have the time and inclination __________________ Trench Town 4 Life www.reverbnation.com/lostangelzproductions www.myspace.com/lostangelzprod www.lostangelzproductions.com

22nd January 2009, 09:29 AM	#2
Magic Theatre Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 257	You could use this iZotope Vinyl - Authentic Lo-Fi Vinyl Simulation for Pro Tools, VST, MAS, Audio Unit, and DirectX audio applications

22nd January 2009, 01:02 PM	#4
T. Gundersen Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 680	You can also do kind of what you're making it sound like.. Playing the "sample" piece, arrange it and mix it somewhat, making it sound like a record. Maybe overdo it a bit so it sounds real gritty. Then sample it. I rarely sample anyone but myself. I work in a beatmaking team, and sometimes I arrange a piece with some piano, strings, bas and maybe a little percussion, and leave it up to my partner to sample it and make the beat. Challenge eachother a bit with those kinds of assignments. You can easily do it on the net as well, if you don't have a real life sparring partner to work with.

22nd January 2009, 04:41 PM	#8
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 3,159	Use a sampler that can bit crush!

22nd January 2009, 05:54 PM	#11
heartbeat Gear Head Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 60	Thanks for the responses guys! I'll try out some of the tips here. Also I have a really nice Fender Reverb Guitar Amp coming in the mail this week. Maybe I'll try running some of my sounds through that and then rerecording them.

26th January 2009, 06:58 PM	#16
jrides Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 241	Dubplates

27th January 2009, 11:11 AM	#19
Guy Gabriel Gear maniac Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Israel Posts: 272	wow that iZotope Vinyl sounds AMAZING, i just downloaded it and some of the presets there really give you that dirty sample feel. I've been looking for this kind of thing for a long time, thanks. __________________

27th January 2009, 12:45 PM	#20
The Beatsmith Lives for gear Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 2,125	yeah, you gotta add tape effects (massey, VW, etc), and amping effects (guitar amp pro, guitar rig etc), but honestly it's more to do with the way you play it

27th January 2009, 02:28 PM	#21
smoke Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NYC Posts: 1,137	+1 Morgana. Sounds great and is a well designed piece of software.

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