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Ok, sorry to get mean then...thumbsup

I just thought you were making some awfully 'blanket' statements that were gonna be hard for you to back up with evidence, so I thought I'd save ya there!
nope... not one of those guys
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Ur avatar is the ****ing sex by the way...
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compared to having a real arp plopped in front of you and then trying to figure it out and use it with a keyboard, ominsphere is a breeze (but not as satisfying). learn it and make it work for you, or sell it because it's money and space spent
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Great review!
Thanks for posting!

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+1 Nice review.

Crazy someone actually said this synth sounds thin!?!
This machine is freakin ear-candy, if thats even a word!
Creatively this opens up a whole new world for you. Every musician will enjoy this. Merry Christmas!
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Full Force started all the ambient sounds over Hip-Hop and R&B tracks...then Chris Jasper of the Isley Brothers...then Babyface in the late 80s and Teddy Riley did it on his Hip-Hop and NJS tracks.....then starting a few years later, the production team formerly known as The Untouchables (Eddie F, Dave "Jam" Hall, Darren "Piano Man" Whittington, Kenny Korenegay, Donell Jones (yes you read it correctly - he used to produce for his first album in '96), etc.) used ambient sounds over their Hip-Hop soul tracks.

So if those aforementioned cats can do it, then so can you if you have aptitude and apply yourself.

Get your IQ production game over a 100 at least. jejejejejejeeje Hack away at Omnisphere, you lemmings!!
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Full Force started all the ambient sounds over Hip-Hop and R&B tracks...then Chris Jasper of the Isley Brothers...then Babyface in the late 80s and Teddy Riley did it on his Hip-Hop and NJS tracks.....then starting a few years later, the production team formerly known as The Untouchables (Eddie F, Dave "Jam" Hall, Darren "Piano Man" Whittington, Kenny Korenegay, Donell Jones (yes you read it correctly - he used to produce for his first album in '96), etc.) used ambient sounds over their Hip-Hop soul tracks.

So if those aforementioned cats can do it, then so can you if you have aptitude and apply yourself.

Get your IQ production game over a 100 at least. jejejejejejeeje Hack away at Omnisphere, you lemmings!!
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Have you ever thought that maybe some of you just might not be creative enough to use Omnisphere in a hip hop setting??
Ive heard some amazing results using Omnisphere in hip hop.
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From reading this thread through it seems to me that the OP has an awful lot to learn ! !

It is sad to see more and more people wanting quick fixes without actually learning anything or understanding how to make sounds and music.
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From reading this thread through it seems to me that the OP has an awful lot to learn ! !

It is sad to see more and more people wanting quick fixes without actually learning anything or understanding how to make sounds and music.
yep..how about that.
Folks need to stop being lazy and start CREATING new shit.
Although Ive said this a thousand times,Ill say it again...be ORIGINAL
f*k what others are doing..do YOUR OWN SHIT!!!
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From reading this thread through it seems to me that the OP has an awful lot to learn ! !

It is sad to see more and more people wanting quick fixes without actually learning anything or understanding how to make sounds and music.
Maybe so,, But who's gonna teach me??!you

Just cuz my workflow/style is different from yours it doesn't mean that u better than metutt. Just cuz I favor gear/instruments/synths that are easy to operate and get me where i want fast,it doesn't mean that I'm ****ing n00b.I'm a producer/arranger/mixer I ain't no sound designer pal!

Oh.. and.. You might want to drop F'ing attitude next time you talk to me
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yep..how about that.
Folks need to stop being lazy and start CREATING new shit.
Although Ive said this a thousand times,Ill say it again...be ORIGINAL
f*k what others are doing..do YOUR OWN SHIT!!!
Ehy Phill, that might work for you.. Cool. But i ain't trying to discover no hot water here man.. Just trying to do some music that is easy to sell Besides.. what's hot in the US right now it's gon b the next big thing 5 years later here in Japan. One hell of a head start uh
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the thing is that omnisphere is dead easy to use.
if you know anything about synthesizers you can use it right away.
Selecting waveforms in a browser and adjusting the envelopes and filters is right in front of you.
Its actually a great synth to learn the basics with because it is so clearly structured.

Did you watch the tutorials at the spectrasonics website?

Anyways-there is a gigantic patchupdate in the pipelines.
next week there will be 2000 more patches to choose from.
Maybe you can find what you are looking for in there.
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the thing is that omnisphere is dead easy to use.
if you know anything about synthesizers you can use it right away.
Agreed. I am FAR from a wholly competent synthesist, but I think Omni's laid out in a way that really allows me to explore the methods by peeling back layers of increasing complexity in the interface - it's quite brilliant.

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Anyways-there is a gigantic patchupdate in the pipelines.
next week there will be 2000 more patches to choose from.
Maybe you can find what you are looking for in there.
Oh no you didn't! Are you teasing me!?
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its official
january 26th
it will be a free download for registered users.
lots of new dance oriented patches and many patches that represent the great soundsources that hadnt been used in the patches sofar.
Tons of inspiring material.
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Anyways-there is a gigantic patchupdate in the pipelines.
next week there will be 2000 more patches to choose from.
Maybe you can find what you are looking for in there.
Hey thanks a lot Dr. Wu! Actually after is going better already

It's a bit daunting at first but i'm starting to dig it more and more
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Totally wrong!!

Omnisphere can be used in almost any genre of music, as many mentioned here that are creative and know how to apply a sound no matter what and work it or tweak it to fit it in the context.

I've been using Omnisphere on Urban songs etc.. even Jingles here in Canada and man simply rock!! If a VSTI sounds doesn't fit right away to your project then use your imagination and make it yours and you will see, you will be impressed how far your can go beyond the pre-sets sound!!

Come on... it's seem like today everybody just want the magical Vsti that you will dictate everything and see it work for you... well it's getting there with the possibilities of technology but if you want that extra edge i believe that you will still need to add your own touch! For that to happen, you need to bring the xtra mile

No hard feeling just my two cents!!

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I use omnisphere a lot in hiphop. I find that almost all VSTi's need to be ran through a good channelstrip to get them to sound properly and sit in a mix. But to be quite honest, i have a lot of VSTi's, but i can make the exact same sound with Albino, Hypersonic2, Xpand2 or any other synth.
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All it will take is for a Hip Hop smash hit to come around using Omnisphere and this post will be moot.
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All it will take is for a Hip Hop smash hit to come around using Omnisphere and this post will be moot.
Any takers??
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Any takers??
I use Omnisphere... Just need the smash hit.

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I think you guys will really dig the 2000 new patches being released next week. They show off a lot of the potential of Omnisphere for Hip-Hop/Dance Punchy/Aggressive kinds of styles (as well as a lot of other genres of course too!)

The patch library organization is a lot better, you can now instantly filter the Browser to show only Old School, Aggressive Synths or Analog Classics or Percussive Synths for example.

Check it out on the 26th and please let us know what you guys think. We are really proud of these new patches and I really think you will freak over them :-)

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PS. Yeah Dr. Dre might be qualified to be considered an OK Hip-Hop producer using Omnisphere like crazy now. ;-)
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I think you guys will really dig the 2000 new patches being released next week. They show off a lot of the potential of Omnisphere for Hip-Hop/Dance Punchy/Aggressive kinds of styles (as well as a lot of other genres of course too!)

The patch library organization is a lot better, you can now instantly filter the Browser to show only Old School, Aggressive Synths or Analog Classics or Percussive Synths for example.

Check it out on the 26th and please let us know what you guys think. We are really proud of these new patches and I really think you will freak over them :-)

peace,

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PS. Yeah Dr. Dre might be qualified to be considered an OK Hip-Hop producer using Omnisphere like crazy now. ;-)
Hey there, I am assuming you work at spectrasonics so I wanted to confirm that mac intel users of trilogy will infact receive a free upgrade to trillion.
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Ehy Phill, that might work for you.. Cool. But i ain't trying to discover no hot water here man.. Just trying to do some music that is easy to sell Besides.. what's hot in the US right now it's gon b the next big thing 5 years later here in Japan. One hell of a head start uh
Think is..most beatmakers are some lazy asses and NEED to get on to some new shit so things wont be so ****ing boring ...come on now..get with the program...before its too late
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I don't have any experience with Omnisphere, but I would like to say a small word in defense of the original poster WRT wanting good presets.

It seems strange to me that just because a synth makes it possible to design your own instrument that there is some sort of moral duty to do so.

It's not like any real guitar player needs to know how to design a guitar in order to play one, or a pianist need to know how to design a piano. It's great that this flexibility is there in synthesizers, but I don't see anyhting wrong with a keyboard player who can tear it up on the keys, but couldn't program a patch to save his life. And really, from what I've seen, there's an inverse relationship between the ability to program a synth and the ability to actually play one.

A lot of great players just want something that they can plug in and lay down their ideas with, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I myself am a tweakhead (albino wut) but I would give up everything I've learned about programming synths in a second to be as good on the keys as someone like Ryan Leslie. Mediocre presets in the right hands and the right arrangement take on a whole new life.
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These are all good points.

Nobody accused the Beatles for lacking imagination when they used the Mellotron flute preset on "Strawberry Fields Forever."

Songwriting and feeling trumps texture any day of the week.

Although, um... I like texture a lot.



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These are all good points.

Nobody accused the Beatles for lacking imagination when they used the Mellotron flute preset on "Strawberry Fields Forever."

Songwriting and feeling trumps texture any day of the week.

Although, um... I like texture a lot.



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The Mellotron didnt have "presets" per se.
The used pre recorded 8 second tape loops of recordings of live instruments.
If you held the keys too long you could hear the loop points.
It was very archaic by todays standards but "cutting edge" for the mid sixties.
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