808s & Heartbreak

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by lpuma

yea, let me add to my previous post that I dont hate on Kayne, it's jus that I miss his sampling + hip hop beats period, I just never liked him as a vocalist. I really dislike his autotune singing and never liked his voice/flow but sayin dude is talentless is a bit too much. Dude is indeed a talented producer, not talking about his technical skills, I mean that man have a vision... I personally dont like what he is doing actually but seems like a lot of ppl enjoy it so... go Kayne! I'll jus have to turn my radio off for a couple of weeks.

he needs to follow his & old dirty's advice from a previous song.

"take autotune back to the store...we don't wanna hear that weak shit no more!"

[quincyg]

lil waynes album is kinda sick. kanye sort of a joke to me. I was really proud of him when he clowned george bush though.

[Nahuel]

Originally Posted by cynic

he needs to follow his & old dirty's advice from a previous song.

"take autotune back to the store...we don't wanna hear that weak shit no more!"

Hoow couild iyouiu bieue sowwee heairtleieisss?

[beat you down]

so far, of all his recent live performances, i think this one is the worst.



the greatest show ever?
not quite there yet i guess.

[dhiltonlittle]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

I said it all ego aside...something Kanye wouldn't know.

I can play jazz piano, classic, and the blues sleeping.

what is classic?

[Shilla]

i heard it in my friend's car.. and I will say this: I dont want to ever hear that album again.. I was soooooo ready for it to go off .. e

[Synthy08]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

I said it all ego aside...something Kanye wouldn't know.

I can play jazz piano, classic, and the blues sleeping.

That just makes you a useful session player.......alot of producers in the game are egotistical assholes, so if you get to work with a big one u gotta know how to handle it, or else youll end up walking out and missing out on future opportunities....

[Chaellus]

Originally Posted by beat you down

so far, of all his recent live performances, i think this one is the worst.



the greatest show ever?
not quite there yet i guess.

holy crap that is horrible......plsu kanye west isnt bad but he isnt pushing new boundaries or anything like that.

[TREMORS]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

Just because its simple doesn't mean its bad. r.

No offense, but hasn't that been your whole argument about Kanye in the first place?

[Justin RockWell]

I Love the album from start to finish. It has a huge tribal sound, not to mention it's a brave move for a hip-hop artist.

[MYAMS]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

Just because its simple doesn't mean its bad. The rapper has an amazing talent and the lyrics he wrote are very powerful. The drummer is very good too, there is no denying his skill, he did a few takes but picked one of them out of the bunch that he hammered the whole song through. The tempo is also pretty slow, which makes it all the harder to perform as a drummer.

lol where was the engineer, or the kick drum for a matter of fact?

You might as well stop posting dude your embarrassing yourself... saying your better than Kanye West then posting some amateur b.s.

[Teis]

I Love the album from start to finish. It has a huge tribal sound, not to mention it's a brave move for a hip-hop artist.

There you go JR - Im with you.

All you haters don't know whats going to hit you. 808s is one of the top *pop* records of the decade. And with it KW enters the league of giants... Prince, MJ, Madonna - that kind.

[jimmydeluxe]

Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese

Man that's really not anything to brag about. It's a simple little beat with a guitar riff that I could make on a MIDI controller with reason Refills. Nothing amazing man. Seriously.

But if you're just starting out in rap, it is something to be proud of. I was proud of every beat I made from the first one I made. In fact I was more proud of the first beats I made than I am of the beats I make now, which are 1000000x better.

Of course you could arrange it, if the samples and loops were in .REX files already. I think that's his point, is that they PLAYED it. That's where Kanye is (was?) great, as an arranger/sampler and a rapper. A musician is someone who plays music, Kanye does not, nor does he sing. Ones not better than the other, but they are distinct. That's why there used to be producers, writers, arrangers, musicians, vocalists, etc. credited on songs.

This beat is cool. The MC is hot. It could benefit from some hip hop treatment, though, since it's trying to fit in the genre--quantize/beat detect/edit the drums--they drag--go out. Tighten up the bass. Even though it's played, it needs to sound quantized-tight.

To say it's the rawest shit ever, is ironically, very Kanye West Though I would rather listen to this beat than hear Kanye not sing any day!

[ninjasoards]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

you're right, but I haven't yet to hear a Hip-Hop song this raw. Thats not to say its the best Hip-Hop song I've heard, but that its easily the most raw Hip-Hop song ive heard.

Boooo! Tune ur guitar next time.

Here's easily the most RAW hip hop song I've heard

[terrytee]

Originally Posted by beat you down

so far, of all his recent live performances, i think this one is the worst.



the greatest show ever?
not quite there yet i guess.

At 3.09-3.13 I laughed so hard i nearly cried. Sorry KW you lose LMFO

Other classic fail moments are the chorus at 4.00 & Estelles dress.

[beat you down]

that dress...they wrapped her in some origami shit... i think it was the blue one.

[quincyg]

kanye reminds me alot of terence trent darby in the 80's in terms of the crazy statements he makes about being the greatest entertainer.

[jimmydeluxe]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

Boooo! Tune ur guitar next time.

Here's easily the most RAW hip hop song I've heard

SO TRUE! That song is hot in so many, many ways, and the video is beautiful. But, it's funny you should pick a song where the piano and the bass are out of tune after a picky intonation comment...perhaps you couldn't tell?

[ninjasoards]

Originally Posted by jimmydeluxe

SO TRUE! That song is hot in so many, many ways, and the video is beautiful. But, it's funny you should pick a song where the piano and the bass are out of tune after a picky intonation comment...perhaps you couldn't tell?

U know, i remember noticing that when i first listened to this song back in the 6th grade, but over the years I guess i got used to it.

That fact that the bassline is out of tune just makes it even more "RAAAAWWW!" lol

[jimmydeluxe]

Haha...6th grade? Wow, maybe your nickname should be, "intonationalninjasoards!"

[terrytee]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

That fact that the bassline is out of tune just makes it even more "RAAAAWWW!" lol

There is nothing nicer than a little bit of discordance thumbsup

[jsrockit]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

Boooo! Tune ur guitar next time.

Here's easily the most RAW hip hop song I've heard

So damn good...yeah, that's raw...

[skandaluk]

its a grower

[TREMORS]

RAW: YouTube - Public Enemy - Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos
Can't embed, sorry.

[Dr.Wu]

Originally Posted by beat you down

so far, of all his recent live performances, i think this one is the worst.



the greatest show ever?
not quite there yet i guess.

wow-i didnt even know it is possible to make autotune sound outoftune

[Dr.Wu]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

Yes actually, I have and I helped record a Hip-Hop Song in it and wrote the melody and chorus to it.

here is the song:http://www.spyhop.org/sh/index.php?o...&album=2&pos=6
.

i like the chord progression.
There seems to be a bit of a tuning issue that comes apparent at the end of the tune but i like the overall energy in the track and the live feel.
Keep it up!

[majestic1juan]

I think a lot of people are calling out the kanye haters but not enough are realizing that they are on his band wagon. Almost the whole album is horrible, and to say that you like something because it is "brave" and "trying something new" is pretty dumb, just because it is something different, that doesn't make it special. all of the beats aren't simple but sound simple and don't make for a great listening experience. kanye can't sing at all, and his writing just keeps slipping every album. by the way "good life" also sucked very badly. kanyes first 2 albums were really good, beats were different but enjoyable, and his writing really made the first album. you say his new album has great lyrics, example please, because I cannot seem to find one in 808s and hearbreaks.

love lockdown

Im not lovin you, the way i wanted to
What i had to do, had to run from you
Im in love with you, but the vibe is wrong
And that haunted me, all the way home
So ya never know, never never know
Never know enough, til its over love
Til we lose control, system overload
Screamin no no no, no no

heartless

How could you be so, cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo
Just remember that you talkin' to me though
You know need to watch the way you talkin' to me, yo
I mean after all the things that we've been through
I mean after all the things we got into
Hey yo, I know of some things that you ain't told me
Hey yo, I did some things but that's the old me
And now you wanna get me back and you gon' show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend, well I got homies
But in the end it's still so lonely

see what I mean horrible. so call me a hater, I'm not saying I'm better then kanye, obviously I am not, since he's ultra famous, and I am not known at all, but IMHO the album sucked.

[butterfly]

I think a lot of people are calling out the kanye haters but not enough are realizing that they are on his band wagon. Almost the whole album is horrible, and to say that you like something because it is "brave" and "trying something new" is pretty dumb, just because it is something different, that doesn't make it special. all of the beats aren't simple but sound simple and don't make for a great listening experience. kanye can't sing at all, and his writing just keeps slipping every album. by the way "good life" also sucked very badly. kanyes first 2 albums were really good, beats were different but enjoyable, and his writing really made the first album. you say his new album has great lyrics, example please, because I cannot seem to find one in 808s and hearbreaks.

love lockdown

Im not lovin you, the way i wanted to
What i had to do, had to run from you
Im in love with you, but the vibe is wrong
And that haunted me, all the way home
So ya never know, never never know
Never know enough, til its over love
Til we lose control, system overload
Screamin no no no, no no

heartless

How could you be so, cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo
Just remember that you talkin' to me though
You know need to watch the way you talkin' to me, yo
I mean after all the things that we've been through
I mean after all the things we got into
Hey yo, I know of some things that you ain't told me
Hey yo, I did some things but that's the old me
And now you wanna get me back and you gon' show me
So you walk around like you don't know me
You got a new friend, well I got homies
But in the end it's still so lonely

see what I mean horrible. so call me a hater, I'm not saying I'm better then kanye, obviously I am not, since he's ultra famous, and I am not known at all, but IMHO the album sucked.

.......yip sounds like he's put no thought whatsoever into those lyrics, cheesy cliched imagery with not one origonal insight........knocked out in the booth, between photo and fashion shoots I don't doubt and ego reinforced by Yes men.....shame on you, shows scant consideration for his audience........we're onto you Mr West.

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by skandaluk

its a grower

wow this is total garbage.
but it's kanye west, it must be me, let's give it another go.
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wow

you've just brainwashed yourself but....

it'll still be garbage.

[jsrockit]

Yeah, the album isn't the most intelligent, but I enjoy listening to it sometimes, so that's enough for me. I have plenty of other albums that say a lot more and don't do it for me overall. Sometimes you need one of those frivolous light listening moments.