Is it worth to buy new 003 rack?

[Wally]

i was thinkig of getting an interface to record some synths vocals and some percussion maybe for my instumentals.

i see theres a new 003 with more inputs is it worth it i mostly work on pro tools.

[DROPKICK]

No! You wont need more inputs unless you are tracking everything at the same time!

[moroccog]

The problem with the digidesign stuff is that it loses it's value so quickly when their new stuff comes out and the converters sound like poo.

[jikky]

What interface are you working with now? Is ProTools your platform?

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

What interface are you working with now? Is ProTools your platform?

According to the first post, yes...

And there's nothing wrong with the converters for the price. Especially not if you're recording at home. In a treated room with top notch preamps, maybe.

[Aries]

I use the 003 rack and i love it...works great for everything i do...is there a brand new one out already?i got mine over a year ago...is it the 003r your talking about?

[jikky]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

According to the first post, yes...

And there's nothing wrong with the converters for the price. Especially not if you're recording at home. In a treated room with top notch preamps, maybe.

Dam I skipped those last 6 words lol.


Nothing wrong with the 003r. I went to network radio station building and they had tons of them lying around. They use those for the radio show's (the rock stations anyway) and stuff that airs on the radio here in Houston. I saw at least 20 laying around in a storage room for backup if any malfunctions happened with the others. The building is home to over 20 stations. If they use it surely it can get the job done.

[flex]

LOve mine and certainly no complaints here. For the price the AD DA converters are quite acceptable and definately nicer than the 002R which i owned previously. +1 on using a nicer mic pre with it though.

The additional I/O means its more flexible routing to outboard gear, compressors,EQ's,limiters etc.

[tengu]

Originally Posted by moroccog

The problem with the digidesign stuff is that it loses it's value so quickly when their new stuff comes out and the converters sound like poo.

Have you ever used a 003?

Their converters aren't boutique but they certainly don't sound like "poo".

In fact, the 003 converters are really good for what you are paying. Lots of bass extension, good headroom and while not being the most accurate they definitely have their own thing going on.

The 003 is a great package.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by tengu

Have you ever used a 003?

Their converters aren't boutique but they certainly don't sound like "poo".

In fact, the 003 converters are really good for what you are paying. Lots of bass extension, good headroom and while not being the most accurate they definitely have their own thing going on.

The 003 is a great package.

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[Versatile255]

just to chime im thinking of upgrading my 002r for the 003r is it really worth it.

[moroccog]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

According to the first post, yes...

And there's nothing wrong with the converters for the price. Especially not if you're recording at home. In a treated room with top notch preamps, maybe.

true

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by Versatile255

just to chime im thinking of upgrading my 002r for the 003r is it really worth it.

as far as i know the 003 is a 002 in a new box.
i didn't even upgrade from a 001 to a 003.

[Wally]

ive worked with the 003 rack in a studio for about 5 months and i really didnt like it.

The preamps arent that good a behringer console sounded better lol.

the converters are the worst thing and i dont think its worth it lol.

im about to get HD soon only because most of my clients pay more if i use pro tools wich its ok with me since i can work with it like a pro.

im currently using nuendo but ill be getting HD soon pr otools hd 96io with the accel cards and maybe a pro control.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Wally

ive worked with the 003 rack in a studio for about 5 months and i really didnt like it.

The preamps arent that good a behringer console sounded better lol.

the converters are the worst thing and i dont think its worth it lol.

im about to get HD soon only because most of my clients pay more if i use pro tools wich its ok with me since i can work with it like a pro.

im currently using nuendo but ill be getting HD soon pr otools hd 96io with the accel cards and maybe a pro control.

How does a "pro" work it??

[gearaddict]

Originally Posted by Versatile255

just to chime im thinking of upgrading my 002r for the 003r is it really worth it.

Yes...The converters are better, the preamps are better...I never had a 002..I was using the 001 until last year it finaly died...so I went right to the 003r!!!

Hit records have been made on a 001 and 003!

Dont listen to the haters..get what you think will work for you!!

P.S. It wount hurt to have a nice pre to go with it...I bought a grace design m101 for vox. and acoustic guitar, and bass DI..the 003 pre's are fine for the other things!! Plus PT 8 is coming and looks great...so hold on for a wile and you can get pt8 with it!

[jhorsley]

I use the 002 in my studio here, and chose not to upgrade to the 003 because there is no improvement in the converters, pre-amps, etc. It really is just the same package with a few more consumer-grade pre-amps.

I am a big believer in PT LE but ONLY in conjunction with a fast computer and a good 3rd party clock and converter(s). I recommend the apogee Rosetta 200 or 800 for both. If you've never used a good clock for your DAW, you will have no idea how much better it is (especially for mixes with a huge track count). You really do get better imaging and bass definition. PT LE internal clock with the 002 or 003 will not deliver.

In other words, I bypass all the "outboard" components on the 002 entirely, and just use it's digital ins and outs. We mix in surround as well using the Neyrinck plug-ins, which are great.

[tengu]

Originally Posted by Wally

ive worked with the 003 rack in a studio for about 5 months and i really didnt like it.

The preamps arent that good a behringer console sounded better lol.

the converters are the worst thing and i dont think its worth it lol.

im about to get HD soon only because most of my clients pay more if i use pro tools wich its ok with me since i can work with it like a pro.

im currently using nuendo but ill be getting HD soon pr otools hd 96io with the accel cards and maybe a pro control.

I do not own a 003, I have and used it for a while.

Going from a 003 to a 96io on HD, how much of an improvement do you expect with that?

To the original poster, read between the lines, don't listen to the haters as someone else said.

If you can't make great music on a 003 then I really don't think you are gonna on anything else.

Get it and upgrade the preamps later. The converters are not shit.

They can more than adequately serve your purposes.

[azrael kennedy]

Originally Posted by beat you down

as far as i know the 003 is a 002 in a new box.
i didn't even upgrade from a 001 to a 003.

they have different pre's, i'm sure there are a few other differences.

[azrael kennedy]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

How does a "pro" work it??

with lots of clipping, duh.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by jhorsley

I use the 002 in my studio here, and chose not to upgrade to the 003 because there is no improvement in the converters, pre-amps, etc. It really is just the same package with a few more consumer-grade pre-amps.

yeah, most most people would disagree with you here. To say there is NO improvement without doing A/B/X tests and making blanket statements like that is a little uninformed.

I can't comment personally - I've not used a 003 for any length of time. I've also not upgraded my 002, because I think other things (room treatment, a new friggin' Mac!) will be more beneficial to me. But you're still stating things that you have absolutely no experience of, you're just going on specs and heresay. Others who have upgraded say there's a difference. Maybe it's just psychological..but I'd be more inclined to believe them.

[jbuehler]

I have listened to both. The 003 sounds WAY WAY better.

Anyone who says they are the same doesn't use ears! Stats may looks the same but sounds is far better on the 003.

I wouldn't have bought an 002 but I am very pleased with the 003.

The converters are so much better! How can you not hear that? It is easy, try using one unlike all these haters here.

[gearaddict]

Originally Posted by jhorsley

I use the 002 in my studio here, and chose not to upgrade to the 003 because there is no improvement in the converters, pre-amps, etc. It really is just the same package with a few more consumer-grade pre-amps.

I am a big believer in PT LE but ONLY in conjunction with a fast computer and a good 3rd party clock and converter(s). I recommend the apogee Rosetta 200 or 800 for both. If you've never used a good clock for your DAW, you will have no idea how much better it is (especially for mixes with a huge track count). You really do get better imaging and bass definition. PT LE internal clock with the 002 or 003 will not deliver.

In other words, I bypass all the "outboard" components on the 002 entirely, and just use it's digital ins and outs. We mix in surround as well using the Neyrinck plug-ins, which are great.

.The converters and preamps are better in the 003..got to the digi web site and look around!!! You Must of had a bad ear day!!! It happens!!

[jhorsley]

I am very happy to hear that the 003 has better converters. I have not done and A/B test - I had heard there was no significant improvement, so I never bothered to upgrade. Glad to hear it, because I actually thought the 001 to 002 difference was marginal (THAT one I had compared).

How about the clock? Anyone compared it to 002 clock or other clock? Any good reviews out there?

If anyone has tested the 003 against 96HD i/o, I'd love to hear about it.

[DanRock101]

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Originally Posted by jhorsley

I use the 002 in my studio here, and chose not to upgrade to the 003 because there is no improvement in the converters, pre-amps, etc. It really is just the same package with a few more consumer-grade pre-amps.

I am a big believer in PT LE but ONLY in conjunction with a fast computer and a good 3rd party clock and converter(s). I recommend the apogee Rosetta 200 or 800 for both. If you've never used a good clock for your DAW, you will have no idea how much better it is (especially for mixes with a huge track count). You really do get better imaging and bass definition. PT LE internal clock with the 002 or 003 will not deliver.

In other words, I bypass all the "outboard" components on the 002 entirely, and just use it's digital ins and outs. We mix in surround as well using the Neyrinck plug-ins, which are great.