Recording Hints for (REAL!) Wah-Wah Guitars in a GFunk-Song?

[Jermaine]

hi everybody,

i would like to know, if anyone recorded some gfunk stuff (with guitars)?
i am a guitar player myself for many years, and in my next song i will record some wah wah guitar, like the nate dogg "gfunk classics" lps..

did anyone know some special tricks, effects etc for the "westcoast" guitars? except the way i play the guitar..

i think i will use a dunlop crybaby, a marshall amp and a fender strat straight to cubase..

any advice or hints? i just recorded "nu metal guitars", never soul guitars..

thanks guys!

[illacov]

Omni....

Jam that thing right into the grille and have at it!

So far Wah wah thru either the Peavey Classic VTX or the Laney TT50 sounds awesome on omnis. I use an Audio Technica AT801 thru a Behringer ADA8000 and its a very warm recording.

You wont be disappointed.

Try to get an omni so you can get alot of that wah funk going!

Peace
Illumination

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Jermaine

hi everybody,

i would like to know, if anyone recorded some gfunk stuff (with guitars)?
i am a guitar player myself for many years, and in my next song i will record some wah wah guitar, like the nate dogg "gfunk classics" lps..

did anyone know some special tricks, effects etc for the "westcoast" guitars? except the way i play the guitar..

i think i will use a dunlop crybaby, a marshall amp and a fender strat straight to cubase..

any advice or hints? i just recorded "nu metal guitars", never soul guitars..

thanks guys!

Its all about technique and your coordination between your strumming hand and your foot and the space between the envelopes..
Ive done it on countless hit records

[illacov]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Its all about technique and your coordination between your strumming hand and your foot and the space between the envelopes..
Ive done it on countless hit records

thumbsup

You gotta ask yourself as well what you want to accomplish. Are you going for that chukka chukka standard or the swells its mad things you can do with a wah pedal and a good guitar player.

Wah wah before/after a delay is nuts too.

Peace
Illumination

[Jermaine]

thanks guys, but i dont mean the guitar technic.. i play since the early 90s in funk and rock bands with wah wah and i think i can play wah wah guitar, but i never mixed a soul guitar!
that was the job of our producer and as a young guitar player, i dont were interested in recording.. times are changin

[IM WHO YOU THINK]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Its all about technique and your coordination between your strumming hand and your foot and the space between the envelopes..
Ive done it on countless hit records

YEP

It's the guitar player. Some dudes are just funky. Some dudes make any axe sound good.


(And by the way, I'll call you this week. I've been meaning to but getting tied up with work. I'll ring u)

[bgrotto]

I'd go DI (which is VERY rare for me to say, at least publicly), or into an EXTREMELY clean amp (like a really nice, small fender, or maybe a victoria). The rest is up to your skill as a player, and your choice of instrument (including the guitar itself, strings, and the pedal).

[Jermaine]

no, i dont mean riffs or skills. i mean effects, etc. mayeb some delay to widen the sound? do you double some licks, etc? i mean the engineer part not the player part

[ryst]

Originally Posted by illacov

Omni....

Jam that thing right into the grille and have at it!

So far Wah wah thru either the Peavey Classic VTX or the Laney TT50 sounds awesome on omnis. I use an Audio Technica AT801 thru a Behringer ADA8000 and its a very warm recording.

Peavey Classic VTX.....I am gald someone else knows about this amp. I love mine. Mine's a 2-12 combo and it still sounds great. Very underrated amp, IMO.

[bgrotto]

Originally Posted by Jermaine

no, i dont mean riffs or skills. i mean effects, etc. mayeb some delay to widen the sound? do you double some licks, etc? i mean the engineer part not the player part

Again, the quality of the tracks is HIGHLY reliant on the skill of the player.

I wouldn't look for "wide". One track should be plenty; you want "pocket" and "feel". This comes from, as Philly said, the player's right hand technique, and his feel with the wah pedal's envelope.

Doubling is redundant, and effects aren't useful. Just get him to play the part REALLY friggin' well. If needed, record it again and again till he gets two bars right, and loop those. Groove is the key word here. If the guitarist is any good, your job as engineer is to not overthink it and stay out of his way.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by IM WHO YOU THINK

YEP

It's the guitar player. Some dudes are just funky. Some dudes make any axe sound good.


(And by the way, I'll call you this week. I've been meaning to but getting tied up with work. I'll ring u)

Looking forward.
best to Ike