Those 80's / Prince drum and perc sounds

ssprod19 · 22nd September 2008

those sounds from Prince's "Little Red Corvette" or "1999", etc... what module or plug-in holds these famous sounds that everyone is using again today?

James Meeker · 22nd September 2008

Linn Drum.

I've heard he also liked the Sequential Drumtraks as well.

Track down those machines or samples and you'll be in decent shape.

E-Irizarry · 22nd September 2008

I bet'cha at least half of y'all that are fishing for those kits/sounds used to think Prince was garbage back in the day.

The herd mentality and hypocrisy of many. ROTFL!

tonymission · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Meeker

Linn Drum.

I've heard he also liked the Sequential Drumtraks as well.

Track down those machines or samples and you'll be in decent shape.

yep... LM-1 .. prince had one of the first prototypes actually..

Karloff70 · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Irizarry

I bet'cha at least half of y'all that are fishing for those kits/sounds used to think Prince was garbage back in the day.

The herd mentality and hypocrisy of many. ROTFL!

lol......and it'll be a little challenge to do anything more interesting with them than he did too.......

jedilaw · 22nd September 2008

On FutureSex/LoveSound Justin Timberlake not only used the same Linn Drum unit, he used the same effects processing that Prince did (Prince is known to have used both the Linn Drum and the LM-1). It's a good album, but he really needs to be giving Prince some major credit for influencing the sound of the thing.

There are a few sample sets out there with the sounds from the Linn Drum, google around a bit. I know that Guru has a set of Linn Drum samples. Problem being there were a lot of ways you could tweak the sample sounds on the Linn Drum, so it's hard for any sample set to really give you the full range of what a Linn Drum could do.

beat you down · 22nd September 2008

just wondering...

seems to be a big deal, well to me at least, to tune drums properly (to the song's root)

how would people back then (with machines like the linn drum etc) go about this?
i can imagine they just didn't.

terrytee · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat you down

just wondering...

seems to be a big deal, well to me at least, to tune drums properly (to the song's root)

how would people back then (with machines like the linn drum etc) go about this?
i can imagine they just didn't.

LM-1 has pitch control under the output jacks at the rear of the unit. Also interchangeable Eproms for new sounds.

Too Shorts first Tapes on 75 girls used a LM-1

beat you down · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrytee

LM-1 has pitch control under the output jacks at the rear of the unit. Also interchangeable Eproms for new sounds...

thanks and hey what's ^, long time...
no shit...

each out has it's own...

MYAMS · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedilaw

On FutureSex/LoveSound Justin Timberlake not only used the same Linn Drum unit, he used the same effects processing that Prince did (Prince is known to have used both the Linn Drum and the LM-1). It's a good album, but he really needs to be giving Prince some major credit for influencing the sound of the thing.

There are a few sample sets out there with the sounds from the Linn Drum, google around a bit. I know that Guru has a set of Linn Drum samples. Problem being there were a lot of ways you could tweak the sample sounds on the Linn Drum, so it's hard for any sample set to really give you the full range of what a Linn Drum could do.

I doubt Justin was programming any drums on that record. And Prince was openly noted as an influence for the album.

terrytee · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat you down

long time...
no shit...

Been trying to stay of the internet & acutely get some work done for a change.

beat you down · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrytee

Been trying to stay of the internet & acutely get some work done for a change.

the real world???

are you sure?

terrytee · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat you down

the real world???

are you sure?

LOL yeah i know i'm not convinced by it myself, but if i can make some cash out of it shit has to be done.

tonymission · 22nd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by beat you down

thanks and hey what's ^, long time...
no shit...

each out has it's own...

god damn that is awesome

ssprod19 · 23rd September 2008

Thanks for the replies. How much would I expect to pay for an LM-1 now? I know they've been long discontinued.

James Meeker · 23rd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssprod19

Thanks for the replies. How much would I expect to pay for an LM-1 now? I know they've been long discontinued.

I've seen them go for 300 bucks and I've seen them go for 1000 bucks. Depends on how trendy they are at that particular moment in time.

Cool machine. Most of the early drum machines were neat, and had a lot of character, even if they were laughably limited by today's standard.

rickrock305 · 23rd September 2008

the oberheim dx too.

James Meeker · 23rd September 2008

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Originally Posted by rickrock305

the oberheim dx too.

Hrm, it's okay. I wasn't impressed enough with one to buy it ten years back. It seemed a bit second rate compared to the Linns and the Drumtraks. However, if you got the Prommer and put some different sounds in there it can probably kick ass... the stock sounds turned me off a bit though.

Emu Drumulator is another cool machine from back in the day. Doesn't get used much anymore.

ssprod19 · 23rd September 2008

isn't there a sample library or plug-in that already has these sounds? seems easier than hunting down a vintage Linn machine

beat you down · 23rd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssprod19

isn't there a sample library or plug-in that already has these sounds? seems easier than hunting down a vintage Linn machine

Linn LM-1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the wiki has links to some kits, they're .wav but i haven't looked into their quality.

jedilaw · 23rd September 2008

As mentioned above, Guru has a Linn kit. I'd be very surprised if Battery 3 doesn't have one, too.

Also, check this link.

rickrock305 · 23rd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Meeker

Hrm, it's okay. I wasn't impressed enough with one to buy it ten years back. It seemed a bit second rate compared to the Linns and the Drumtraks. However, if you got the Prommer and put some different sounds in there it can probably kick ass... the stock sounds turned me off a bit though.
.

yea, i'm not sure i'd pay a whole lotta $ for one. but the kick and snare just scream 80's/Prince to me.

Steamy Williams · 23rd September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssprod19

Thanks for the replies. How much would I expect to pay for an LM-1 now? I know they've been long discontinued.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Meeker

I've seen them go for 300 bucks and I've seen them go for 1000 bucks. Depends on how trendy they are at that particular moment in time.

Cool machine. Most of the early drum machines were neat, and had a lot of character, even if they were laughably limited by today's standard.

The LinnDrum and the LM-1 are two different models. There were only about 525 of the LM-1's manufactured, and I doubt if you'd be able to find one for $300. They fetch as much as $2,000 and more. I paid around £600 (i.e. $1,300-1,500) for my LM-1, which needed a service, but that was the cheapest one I've seen advertised in the last couple of years. The prices James mentioned are more likely what you'd pay for a LinnDrum, which isn't as collectable as the LM-1.

paultools · 23rd September 2008

Another factor in getting those sounds was using the VSO on the tape machine, a la "The Beautiful Ones". The Linn samples were thick and heavy to begin with, but when slowed
d o w n.... WOW!

I don't know the entire Prince catalog, but I can't think of many examples of the Obie DX.
Terry and Jimmy, however wore theirs OUT on Cherrelle ("Didn't Mean to turn You On") and Alexander O'Neal's ( "What's Missing") projects. A shout out to a gifted engineer, Taavi Mote!

isham · 23rd September 2008

just got an Lm2 (that needs some service unfortunatelly...) and I wonder how the lm2 compares to the lm1 sonically ?
if someone had some experience with both don't hesitate to comment ;-)
thanks !

E-Irizarry · 24th September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by paultools

Another factor in getting those sounds was using the VSO on the tape machine, a la "The Beautiful Ones". The Linn samples were thick and heavy to begin with, but when slowed
d o w n.... WOW!

I don't know the entire Prince catalog, but I can't think of many examples of the Obie DX.
Terry and Jimmy, however wore theirs OUT on Cherrelle ("Didn't Mean to turn You On") and Alexander O'Neal's ( "What's Missing") projects. A shout out to a gifted engineer, Taavi Mote!

B A M M +1 I truly, truly 2nd that!!!!!

jedilaw · 24th September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by isham

just got an Lm2 (that needs some service unfortunatelly...) and I wonder how the lm2 compares to the lm1 sonically ?
if someone had some experience with both don't hesitate to comment ;-)
thanks !

I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.

isham · 24th September 2008

Quote:

I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.

Thanks a lot for your feedback jedilaw, well I wonder if this justify the huge cost difference between both (about 800 $ for an lm2 and 5 k for the lm1), would love to hear a basic lm1 pattern (without processing)....quite difficult to find...

paultools · 25th September 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by jedilaw

I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.

different but similar sample set, and I suspect different filters/bit rates.
The Linndrum sounds much crisper with longer decays on the toms and cymbals.
wonder if there is still a Forat website?
Forat LinnDrum
many pros had these guys to hot-rod their machines!

OneUp Ent · 25th September 2008

The Linn-9000 has all of the classic linn sounds.

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ssprod19 Lives for gear Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 664 Thread Starter	Those 80's / Prince drum and perc sounds those sounds from Prince's "Little Red Corvette" or "1999", etc... what module or plug-in holds these famous sounds that everyone is using again today?

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James Meeker Lives for gear Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,256	Linn Drum. I've heard he also liked the Sequential Drumtraks as well. Track down those machines or samples and you'll be in decent shape. __________________ "Art is magic delivered from the lie of being truth." ~ Theodor Adorno My music: http://www.reverbnation.com/studiodrome

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E-Irizarry Gear addict Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bangkok, THAILAND Posts: 404	I bet'cha at least half of y'all that are fishing for those kits/sounds used to think Prince was garbage back in the day. The herd mentality and hypocrisy of many. ROTFL! __________________ E. Irizarry anti-feminist R&B artist. ---- Vaya a mi sitio: http://www.youtube.com/user/SuavecitoBro2 o el otro: http://eirizarrythernbsinger.i.ph

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beat you down Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,024	just wondering... seems to be a big deal, well to me at least, to tune drums properly (to the song's root) how would people back then (with machines like the linn drum etc) go about this? i can imagine they just didn't. __________________ I am.

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paultools Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,238	Another factor in getting those sounds was using the VSO on the tape machine, a la "The Beautiful Ones". The Linn samples were thick and heavy to begin with, but when slowed d o w n.... WOW! I don't know the entire Prince catalog, but I can't think of many examples of the Obie DX. Terry and Jimmy, however wore theirs OUT on Cherrelle ("Didn't Mean to turn You On") and Alexander O'Neal's ( "What's Missing") projects. A shout out to a gifted engineer, Taavi Mote! __________________ We are creating enemies faster than we can kill them.

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jedilaw Gear maniac Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 272	On FutureSex/LoveSound Justin Timberlake not only used the same Linn Drum unit, he used the same effects processing that Prince did (Prince is known to have used both the Linn Drum and the LM-1). It's a good album, but he really needs to be giving Prince some major credit for influencing the sound of the thing. There are a few sample sets out there with the sounds from the Linn Drum, google around a bit. I know that Guru has a set of Linn Drum samples. Problem being there were a lot of ways you could tweak the sample sounds on the Linn Drum, so it's hard for any sample set to really give you the full range of what a Linn Drum could do.

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rickrock305 Gear Guru Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Miami FL Posts: 10,052	the oberheim dx too.

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isham Gear addict Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: US/UK/Switzerland Posts: 424	linndrum (lm2) vs LM-1 just got an Lm2 (that needs some service unfortunatelly...) and I wonder how the lm2 compares to the lm1 sonically ? if someone had some experience with both don't hesitate to comment ;-) thanks ! __________________ http://soundcloud.com/isham/if-you www.ishamworld.org

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OneUp Ent Gear nut Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 120	The Linn-9000 has all of the classic linn sounds.

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