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Old 22nd September 2008, 04:41 AM   #1
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Those 80's / Prince drum and perc sounds

those sounds from Prince's "Little Red Corvette" or "1999", etc... what module or plug-in holds these famous sounds that everyone is using again today?
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Old 22nd September 2008, 05:15 AM   #2
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Linn Drum.

I've heard he also liked the Sequential Drumtraks as well.

Track down those machines or samples and you'll be in decent shape.
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I bet'cha at least half of y'all that are fishing for those kits/sounds used to think Prince was garbage back in the day.

The herd mentality and hypocrisy of many. ROTFL!
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Linn Drum.

I've heard he also liked the Sequential Drumtraks as well.

Track down those machines or samples and you'll be in decent shape.
yep... LM-1 .. prince had one of the first prototypes actually..
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I bet'cha at least half of y'all that are fishing for those kits/sounds used to think Prince was garbage back in the day.

The herd mentality and hypocrisy of many. ROTFL!
lol......and it'll be a little challenge to do anything more interesting with them than he did too.......
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Old 22nd September 2008, 09:03 PM   #6
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On FutureSex/LoveSound Justin Timberlake not only used the same Linn Drum unit, he used the same effects processing that Prince did (Prince is known to have used both the Linn Drum and the LM-1). It's a good album, but he really needs to be giving Prince some major credit for influencing the sound of the thing.

There are a few sample sets out there with the sounds from the Linn Drum, google around a bit. I know that Guru has a set of Linn Drum samples. Problem being there were a lot of ways you could tweak the sample sounds on the Linn Drum, so it's hard for any sample set to really give you the full range of what a Linn Drum could do.
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just wondering...

seems to be a big deal, well to me at least, to tune drums properly (to the song's root)

how would people back then (with machines like the linn drum etc) go about this?
i can imagine they just didn't.
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just wondering...

seems to be a big deal, well to me at least, to tune drums properly (to the song's root)

how would people back then (with machines like the linn drum etc) go about this?
i can imagine they just didn't.
LM-1 has pitch control under the output jacks at the rear of the unit. Also interchangeable Eproms for new sounds.

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LM-1 has pitch control under the output jacks at the rear of the unit. Also interchangeable Eproms for new sounds...
thanks and hey what's ^, long time...
no shit...



each out has it's own...
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On FutureSex/LoveSound Justin Timberlake not only used the same Linn Drum unit, he used the same effects processing that Prince did (Prince is known to have used both the Linn Drum and the LM-1). It's a good album, but he really needs to be giving Prince some major credit for influencing the sound of the thing.

There are a few sample sets out there with the sounds from the Linn Drum, google around a bit. I know that Guru has a set of Linn Drum samples. Problem being there were a lot of ways you could tweak the sample sounds on the Linn Drum, so it's hard for any sample set to really give you the full range of what a Linn Drum could do.
I doubt Justin was programming any drums on that record. And Prince was openly noted as an influence for the album.
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long time...
no shit...
Been trying to stay of the internet & acutely get some work done for a change.

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Been trying to stay of the internet & acutely get some work done for a change.

the real world??? are you sure?
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the real world??? are you sure?
LOL yeah i know i'm not convinced by it myself, but if i can make some cash out of it shit has to be done.
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thanks and hey what's ^, long time...
no shit...



each out has it's own...
god damn that is awesome
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Old 23rd September 2008, 12:33 AM   #15
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Thanks for the replies. How much would I expect to pay for an LM-1 now? I know they've been long discontinued.
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Thanks for the replies. How much would I expect to pay for an LM-1 now? I know they've been long discontinued.
I've seen them go for 300 bucks and I've seen them go for 1000 bucks. Depends on how trendy they are at that particular moment in time.

Cool machine. Most of the early drum machines were neat, and had a lot of character, even if they were laughably limited by today's standard.
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the oberheim dx too.
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Also interchangeable Eproms for new sounds. 1
Which went for $100 a pop in 1984.
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the oberheim dx too.
Hrm, it's okay. I wasn't impressed enough with one to buy it ten years back. It seemed a bit second rate compared to the Linns and the Drumtraks. However, if you got the Prommer and put some different sounds in there it can probably kick ass... the stock sounds turned me off a bit though.

Emu Drumulator is another cool machine from back in the day. Doesn't get used much anymore.
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isn't there a sample library or plug-in that already has these sounds? seems easier than hunting down a vintage Linn machine
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isn't there a sample library or plug-in that already has these sounds? seems easier than hunting down a vintage Linn machine

Linn LM-1 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

the wiki has links to some kits, they're .wav but i haven't looked into their quality.
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As mentioned above, Guru has a Linn kit. I'd be very surprised if Battery 3 doesn't have one, too.

Also, check this link.
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Hrm, it's okay. I wasn't impressed enough with one to buy it ten years back. It seemed a bit second rate compared to the Linns and the Drumtraks. However, if you got the Prommer and put some different sounds in there it can probably kick ass... the stock sounds turned me off a bit though.
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yea, i'm not sure i'd pay a whole lotta $ for one. but the kick and snare just scream 80's/Prince to me.
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I've seen them go for 300 bucks and I've seen them go for 1000 bucks. Depends on how trendy they are at that particular moment in time.

Cool machine. Most of the early drum machines were neat, and had a lot of character, even if they were laughably limited by today's standard.
The LinnDrum and the LM-1 are two different models. There were only about 525 of the LM-1's manufactured, and I doubt if you'd be able to find one for $300. They fetch as much as $2,000 and more. I paid around £600 (i.e. $1,300-1,500) for my LM-1, which needed a service, but that was the cheapest one I've seen advertised in the last couple of years. The prices James mentioned are more likely what you'd pay for a LinnDrum, which isn't as collectable as the LM-1.
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Another factor in getting those sounds was using the VSO on the tape machine, a la "The Beautiful Ones". The Linn samples were thick and heavy to begin with, but when slowed
d o w n.... WOW!

I don't know the entire Prince catalog, but I can't think of many examples of the Obie DX.
Terry and Jimmy, however wore theirs OUT on Cherrelle ("Didn't Mean to turn You On") and Alexander O'Neal's ( "What's Missing") projects. A shout out to a gifted engineer, Taavi Mote!
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linndrum (lm2) vs LM-1

just got an Lm2 (that needs some service unfortunatelly...) and I wonder how the lm2 compares to the lm1 sonically ?
if someone had some experience with both don't hesitate to comment ;-)
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Another factor in getting those sounds was using the VSO on the tape machine, a la "The Beautiful Ones". The Linn samples were thick and heavy to begin with, but when slowed
d o w n.... WOW!

I don't know the entire Prince catalog, but I can't think of many examples of the Obie DX.
Terry and Jimmy, however wore theirs OUT on Cherrelle ("Didn't Mean to turn You On") and Alexander O'Neal's ( "What's Missing") projects. A shout out to a gifted engineer, Taavi Mote!

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just got an Lm2 (that needs some service unfortunatelly...) and I wonder how the lm2 compares to the lm1 sonically ?
if someone had some experience with both don't hesitate to comment ;-)
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I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.
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I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.

Thanks a lot for your feedback jedilaw, well I wonder if this justify the huge cost difference between both (about 800 $ for an lm2 and 5 k for the lm1), would love to hear a basic lm1 pattern (without processing)....quite difficult to find...
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I believe the main difference is that the LM-1 allows all drums to be tuned individually, while the LM-2 (AKA Linn Drum) only allows some to be tuned. I don't know if they use the same sample set, I suspect not.
different but similar sample set, and I suspect different filters/bit rates.
The Linndrum sounds much crisper with longer decays on the toms and cymbals.
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