For studio owners: how do you keep of booking?

[Mr.Cheese]

Originally Posted by azrael kennedy

are these the same top dawg engineers that own zildjian drum sets?

iono I don't do rock music, but if I did, I'd be able to tell you..

[bgrotto]

Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese

iono I don't do rock music, but if I did, I'd be able to tell you..

Why do/How can you associate drum sets with only rock music?

[MERC476]

So what do you guys charge if someone wants to use your studio and gear just to produce? Reason I ask is, I had a producer come to my studio and asked me how much would I charge him for studio time for him to come and use my equipment to produce. When I told him its the same price as recording ($35 hr) He was like "FOR REAL!" He now books for about 2-4 hr sessions every once in a while and uses my equipment just to produce. From his reaction, seamed like he's been charged more in other studios. The only gear I have for production for him to use is an mpc 2kxl, motif rack, triton rack, korg tr rack, alesis micron, mpk 49, Reason, Nuendo and various plugins. No live instruments.

[tomdarude]

Originally Posted by Nfinite2006

thanks for all the tips guys heres my gear:
HP 864N Media Center PC
MyBook 500gb External Hardrive
Shure KSM44
KSM44 Standard Shock-Mount
E-MU 1820M
Avalon VT737SP Mic Pre
Sony-MDRV-700 monitor headphones
Sony-MDR-7506 Monitor Headpones
Monster Mic Cable
Wharfedale 8.2 pro-active studio monitors
adobe audition/cubase VsT
Monster XLR monitor cables
Klipsch THX refrence speakers
On-Stage studio pop-filter
On-stage Studio Mic Stand
Auralex Studio Foam
Auralex Mo-Pads
Klipsch THX subwoofer
sE Reflection Filter
Mogami Cables

you wanna charge extra fees on top for your gear selection??

so how much for the auralex foam, the mic-stand, the pop-filter, mic-cable and the shock-mount for an 8h session?

are you friggin kiddin me?

[nukmusic]

Originally Posted by MERC476

So what do you guys charge if someone wants to use your studio and gear just to produce? Reason I ask is, I had a producer come to my studio and asked me how much would I charge him for studio time for him to come and use my equipment to produce. When I told him its the same price as recording ($35 hr) He was like "FOR REAL!" He now books for about 2-4 hr sessions every once in a while and uses my equipment just to produce. From his reaction, seamed like he's been charged more in other studios. The only gear I have for production for him to use is an mpc 2kxl, motif rack, triton rack, korg tr rack, alesis micron, mpk 49, Reason, Nuendo and various plugins. No live instruments.

if two good people call to book your room on the same date, how would you feel?

one wants less hours and a cheaper rate to only produce music using some gear. You do what "he" needs.

the other guy calls minutes later and wants to more hours and will pay your standard rate to use all your gear.



don't short yourself.

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by MERC476

So what do you guys charge if someone wants to use your studio and gear just to produce? Reason I ask is, I had a producer come to my studio and asked me how much would I charge him for studio time for him to come and use my equipment to produce. When I told him its the same price as recording ($35 hr) He was like "FOR REAL!" He now books for about 2-4 hr sessions every once in a while and uses my equipment just to produce. From his reaction, seamed like he's been charged more in other studios. The only gear I have for production for him to use is an mpc 2kxl, motif rack, triton rack, korg tr rack, alesis micron, mpk 49, Reason, Nuendo and various plugins. No live instruments.

well it would seem your studio is geared up for hip hop & r&b production......but just because you cant play the drums don't mean you shouldn't have one in the studio for when the occasion arises. but that may not be your purpose for your studio, it's all about what services you wanna provide for your customers.

[rickrock305]

Originally Posted by tomdarude

you wanna charge extra fees on top for your gear selection??

so how much for the auralex foam, the mic-stand, the pop-filter, mic-cable and the shock-mount for an 8h session?

are you friggin kiddin me?

yep, the mic comes with the session, the stand and shock mount are extra though

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by Denny Lavish

That has been my experience. Also, it seems like the bigger the room, the bigger of a chance ur gonna get charged. Some places are charging $20 and up for 1 Blank Cd!!!! U think those same rooms are throwing in drumsets for free?!?!? Shiiiitttttt

Lavish

Media charges have always been inflated - as are cab accounts (typically a percentage on top of what the cab actually costs), sometimes food (if studio is arranging catering), etc. $20/CD is a bit extortionate - $8/CD is marked up but more usual.

If a piece of gear that is in the room spec isn't available or breaks/becomes unreliable mid-session, the studio will generally arrange hire of a replacement at no extra cost (assuming it's not a cut-rate session). If the client wants a piece of equipment not in the room spec, there's likely to be a charge. Plenty of studios have amps, synths + yes even drumkits included in the room spec.

But a lot of this is again kind of irrelevant when it's your own studio, and you're trying to entice people to work with you as an engineer/producer. No self-funded artists is going to want to pay an extra $20/day for a mic YOU perceive as better. They'll just go for the included option, then maybe grumble later that you weren't prepared to use your best gear.

[yellowbanana]

Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese

iono I don't do rock music, but if I did, I'd be able to tell you..

you really need to open your eyes and get a clue. you graduated from full sail and you act like this!? you're embarrassing yourself in front of the "community". as a still in school student at ex'pression i am ashamed, you're one of the reasons why people have been looking down on music colleges.

[E-Murder]

Originally Posted by rickrock305

yep, the mic comes with the session, the stand and shock mount are extra though

I never understood the concept of advertising a studio with a certain assortment of equipment and then having the client pay extra to use/rent the gear on top of the studio rate.

I worked at a studio once where a locked glass-door cabinet housed all these great mic's but in order to get the key the client would have to pay for the mic rental, that really ticked me off. If I don't want an engineer or client using a certain piece of equipment I take it home.

[azrael kennedy]

Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese

iono I don't do rock music, but if I did, I'd be able to tell you..

just what the industry needs... another one of you. ugh.

[EKG Productions]

Originally Posted by Denny Lavish

That has been my experience. Also, it seems like the bigger the room, the bigger of a chance ur gonna get charged. Some places are charging $20 and up for 1 Blank Cd!!!! U think those same rooms are throwing in drumsets for free?!?!? Shiiiitttttt




Lavish

Man Lavish you hit the nail on the head. Silents got a MPC 60,2 MPC 3000's, Motif, Micro korg and a bunch of other stuff thats gonna cost you a grip to use. The only thing thats included in the rate at the major atlanta studios is the recording gear in the room, The SSl, PT, Outboard gear in the racks, MIC selection and an assistant engineer.

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by azrael kennedy

are these the same top dawg engineers that own zildjian drum sets?

ziljian drum sets???????? what are those
i heard of zildjian cymbals......just pulling your chain

Originally Posted by Mr.Cheese

iono I don't do rock music, but if I did, I'd be able to tell you..

really....you are making it sound like you lied about going to full sail with the things you say. drums aren't just used in rock. gospel, country, blues, jazz, and even r&b. if you did go to full sail then you should get your money back cause what you were taught was dead wrong.

[rsandifer]

20$ per hour? 35$ per hour? Do you guys have day jobs?
In the past 3 or so decades of being in the studio business I have never worked with a studio or owned a studio that charged for items that were already IN the studio. This sounds like some kind of Hustling the client to me.

Doesnt the session go smoother if you use items you are familiar with? I prefer for them to use MY bass rig and MY guitar amps. As far as those drums go........we include those as well. I work by half days and full days only at a very fair rate. Most of my money is made from creating the songs or producing the songs.

Best way to handle this is to run your business the way you would like to be treated. With the understanding that the bills have to be paid.....well.......unless you have a day job. Zildjian drums. I love this forum.

[Mr.Cheese]

I love you guys.

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by rsandifer

Doesnt the session go smoother if you use items you are familiar with? I prefer for them to use MY bass rig and MY guitar amps. As far as those drums go........we include those as well. I work by half days and full days only at a very fair rate. Most of my money is made from creating the songs or producing the songs.

again....like i said if your sole business is based on you being the creator and producing songs....I record metal bands, and rappers. and i am a drummer for 30 years and a bassist for 23 years and it's more comfortable to take my bass set up to a studio because i know the sound I'm gonna get. and i prefer my drums because its what i practice on. If i were to go to a studio and the engineer wanted me to use his equipment because he was too lazy to mic up my stuff and get it sounding good....i would run from that studio.

[sinsay]

I remember charging clients $30.00 for CD's (early-mid 1990's).

Usually give em away now. Just charge for the time, they usually want a few anyway.

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by scorpio01169

again....like i said if your sole business is based on you being the creator and producing songs....I record metal bands, and rappers. and i am a drummer for 30 years and a bassist for 23 years and it's more comfortable to take my bass set up to a studio because i know the sound I'm gonna get. and i prefer my drums because its what i practice on. If i were to go to a studio and the engineer wanted me to use his equipment because he was too lazy to mic up my stuff and get it sounding good....i would run from that studio.

The only time I would force a client to use my instrumets and gear over theirs is if their stuff really sucked for recording purposes. Some dudes dont know how to prep their kit for achieving best results. Me having to go and mess with their kit would take extra time, and cost extra dough. Using mine thats always perfectly setup and ready to go on the spot, is free however.