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Old 9th September 2008   #1
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Autotune 4 versus newer versions

I'm running AT v4 and have a client who wants the T-Pain effect.

I set the 2 controls to the most extreme, yet the client feels it is "not robotic enough". My suspicion is that his performance is the reason why AT isn't making him sound like T-Pain. (He's not melodic enough-- more of a rap)

He says it is because I am running the older version of AT and tells me it is easier to get the robotic effect in the newer versions.

Any truth to this?
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I just upgraded to AT Evo and I think its the more natural sounding - and harder to get the robotic sound. It depends on the speed of the tune affect, and also how the singer is singing. If they waver you can get more of that effect. You might try Melodyne too - it can be used to edit really heavily.
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IMO, its easier to get the T-Pain effect going with the older versions (before version 5) than it is with the newest ones. The older versions have a more simplistic choice of settings, thus making it harder to screw things up. Tell your boy to work on his performance. The effect is not only plugin dependant, it also depends on the performance you pass through it.
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<< IMO, its easier to get the T-Pain effect going with the older versions (before version 5) than it is with the newest ones. The older versions have a more simplistic choice of settings, thus making it harder to screw things up. Tell your boy to work on his performance. >>

Thanks for confirming what I suspected.
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Have him sing 'imma buy you a Draaaaaannnkkk!!!' with the autotune on Fast and relaxed... That might help him understand how its his performance thats the problem...
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autotune 4 is easier to get the effect, also maybe try running his voice through 2 autotunes. I don't exactly know what would happen but it might work.
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autotune 4 is easier to get the effect, also maybe try running his voice through 2 autotunes. I don't exactly know what would happen but it might work.
Autotune 3 is the easiest, but autotune 4 comes right after it in those regards.

The best way to make the effect work is to actually know how to sing well. You dont have to sound like a grammy award winner, but you do have to know something about singing in tune (or just naturally have it come to you); that way you will know exactly how to sing "out of tune" to make it bend precisely. No rocket science required...

Guys want to sing like complete dog doo doo and expect the plugin to do all the work for them. Bad for the engineers having to put up with artists' ignorance, great for Antares.
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I wonder where G Snap rates?
It's got a fairly minimal set of controls.
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When going for the T-Pain sound, do you guys often need to experiment with changing the key, bypassing or removing notes, etc? Or does the fastest/relaxed setting usually do the job?
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i heard tpain mention on the radio, that there's a preset called "The Tpain Effect" you can get with the newer version of Autotune (5.0.8) i believe
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When going for the T-Pain sound, do you guys often need to experiment with changing the key, bypassing or removing notes, etc? Or does the fastest/relaxed setting usually do the job?
Set it to the key of the song.. that's enough with 99% of the beats u'll come across
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The best way to make the effect work is to actually know how to sing well. You dont have to sound like a grammy award winner, but you do have to know something about singing in tune (or just naturally have it come to you); that way you will know exactly how to sing "out of tune" to make it bend precisely. No rocket science required...
that's the important part. autotune works strongest on out of tune parts. so actually more like the worse the singer the stronger the effect.

tell him to play around with it, and go from regular to hi notes. he'll notice the effect coming in strongest at a huuhoohuuhoo. and shaking your voice while singing strengthens the effect as well.
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I know lots of producers that are dying to get the old version back. They should have some sort of emulation mode. I also don't know why they put the "choosy" control off the main screen rendering it a not realtime function.
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