Im Looking For A Quicker Way To Do This..HELP!

[beat you down]

there is no short cut i'm afraid.

i don't see what your midi problem is but if you don't like recording midi tracks first:
use a click track to lay down the first track for a bar or two.
loop that, like i told you before.
use the recorded and looped tracks as your reference.
select the best parts and micro edit them into loops.

pt has audio quantization though.

[d1rtynyc]

Program the midi first, then record the audio.
This is the best way. You can make variations of the midi track real easy. Plus you can make realtime adjustments to filters and other tweaks while recording back into Logic for more of a dynamic performance.

[cynic one]

logic doesn't have audio quantize? that sucks...cubase has had it for years. :p

[edit]

quick google turned this up for logic:
LOGIC NOTES

i'd be shocked if the newer version doesn't allow something similar.

[rallycapmusic]

Originally Posted by cynic

logic doesn't have audio quantize? that sucks...cubase has had it for years. :p

[edit]

quick google turned this up for logic:
LOGIC NOTES

i'd be shocked if the newer version doesn't allow something similar.

I havent even seen this in Logic 6, 7 or 8. But if you look at the images, that is a REAL old version of Logic. Im shocked its not there either.

[Doc Mixwell]

Of course Logic has Quantize!

There are so many ways to do this;

If your recording the Audio, you can play 8 bar loops or whatever, and chop/position regions to create chorus, verses, etc....There are many ways to quantize, and it really depends on what your referring to, MIDI data, or Audio regions, sampling therom.........

I like to play 8 or whatever amount of bars that I can complete without sounding like a complete jackof, and I then chop the region so it starts on the down beat of the first measure [the ONE] ON Bar ONE in the Sequencer in Logic

Now I inch the region to start where I want it using "Shuffle" Left mode, which upon trimming the region, will scoot the audio file to the left determined by my sequencer setting, example; bars, beats, samples, ticks, frames, etc...I like samples myself]

So I snap the region to Bar ONE and I have quantized the audio to play at bar ONE. If I program some MIDI data with a MIDI region, and I want to stick the notes in a pre set quantized position, I choose the setting just above the Piano Roll and I can stick a MIDI note up a nat's ass! If I choose OFF, it wont automatically place the notes on the grid.

[Exmun]

Logic has had audio quantize since versio 3 or 4. I still use my old version 5 on pc and there is audio quantize. Get to know thw manual.

[rallycapmusic]

Originally Posted by Roc Mixwell

Of course Logic has Quantize!

There are so many ways to do this;

If your recording the Audio, you can play 8 bar loops or whatever, and chop/position regions to create chorus, verses, etc....There are many ways to quantize, and it really depends on what your referring to, MIDI data, or Audio regions, sampling therom.........

I like to play 8 or whatever amount of bars that I can complete without sounding like a complete jackof, and I then chop the region so it starts on the down beat of the first measure [the ONE] ON Bar ONE in the Sequencer in Logic

Now I inch the region to start where I want it using "Shuffle" Left mode, which upon trimming the region, will scoot the audio file to the left determined by my sequencer setting, example; bars, beats, samples, ticks, frames, etc...I like samples myself]

So I snap the region to Bar ONE and I have quantized the audio to play at bar ONE. If I program some MIDI data with a MIDI region, and I want to stick the notes in a pre set quantized position, I choose the setting just above the Piano Roll and I can stick a MIDI note up a nat's ass! If I choose OFF, it wont automatically place the notes on the grid.

Well Im mainly talking about quantizing audio. Midi isnt a problem because THAT i can sync up and it tracks in perfectly on time. Its the audio i was talking about. I want to start playing in directly from my keyboards and modules but since im not a GREAT player, i want to get the audio down right as far as timing.

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by rallycapmusic

I havent even seen this in Logic 6, 7 or 8. But if you look at the images, that is a REAL old version of Logic. Im shocked its not there either.

dude i think you need to peep your manual...seriously. in cubase it's done by defining hitpoints on the audio material, then quantizing that.

i'd expect logic does it in a similar fashion.

[Exmun]

rallycapmusic,

I don't think there's any real way around this. You either need to improve your keyboard skills substantially or be satisfied tracking stuff one at a time. Depending on what instruments and audio interfacing you have you may be able to track to audio in one pass once you get your midi parts right.

For example, the Yamaha Motif with the mLan card would allow you to record into audio up to 16 tracks in one pass. If you have keyboards/samplers with multiple outs, you could assign one sound to each output and send stuff over in one or two passes.

Personally, I like having the ability to get my parts right with MIDI ... change things around. And doing it this way allows you to pick and choose which preamps/DIs you're going to pass your instruments through. I don't see a workaround if you're into using hardware... now if you're talking about softsynths then you could render to audio without as much fuss, but I like hardware and that's what I'm talking about.

Btw, Audio Quantize is useful and powerful, but I see it as a tool to fix small parts where the bulk of that take was great except for a not or two or three. MIDI quantize features are waaaay more useful and allows you to do way more.

[Dor]

Originally Posted by cynic

in cubase it's done by defining hitpoints on the audio material, then quantizing that.

i'd expect logic does it in a similar fashion.

It sure does.

[rallycapmusic]

Understood guys. Will do. My synths have at least 4 outs a piece so i will just track through those, midi synced up. Thanks guys!