Classic Hardware: Emu Sp1200, Mpc60, Akai S950, Ensoniq Eps, Asr10, Mpc 2000xl.

[beat you down]

i only use the s950 to sample stuff, i then send it to my daw for further processing and sequencing etc.

after doing all this pristine clean synth stuff for a while i did a 180 and started sampling again, trashing it really.

[Ace'Lo]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Ace'lo, I notice that you list 'all the Emu modules'. What is your opinion on the Mo Phatt module? As i mentioned previously in this thread, i'm considering getting one myself but would like some feedback on it first.

The Mo Phatt is ok...its actually my least fav of them all. But if u put some good cards in it..it could make a difference

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by Ace'Lo

The Mo Phatt is ok...its actually my least fav of them all. But if u put some good cards in it..it could make a difference

def needs expansions cause the stock stuff is kinda garbage imo.
i like the interface and filters though.

[dialectic]

The Mo Phatt is ok...its actually my least fav of them all. But if u put some good cards in it..it could make a difference

def needs expansions cause the stock stuff is kinda garbage imo.
i like the interface and filters though.

Regarding the interface and the filters of the Mo Phatt module, are they the same as those found on the other modules in the range?

How many extra cards can be fitted into the unit?

Are the sounds of the Mo Phatt module hardwired into the module or are they on a card which comes supplied and installed with it?

[beat you down]

if i recall correctly...
there are all the same just different color and stock sounds.

why not download the manual:
Online Manuals

[Osten Powers]

I use my MPC 2000 and my S 950 and I love them both! 950 for drums, MPC for sequencing and samples!

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by beat you down

if i recall correctly...
there are all the same just different color and stock sounds.

why not download the manual:
Online Manuals

If i was to get myself an EMU module, any particular cards that you would recomend?

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by dialectic

If i was to get myself an EMU module, any particular cards that you would recomend?

depends on what you're looking for:
Vintage Synth Explorer

if you own an emu sampler you can also get an empty card (for the mo-phatt) and stuff it with your own sounds.

never looked into it myself though, i bought a xv 5050 with the drums expansion instead.

[myowave]

My Midi Band:
MPC3000
ASR-10
SP1200
S950
TR-808 w/internal midi mod...

TR-909 is next on my hit list...

[rallycapmusic]

You know whats crazy? after having the MPC2000xl 2 or 3 times over, i started getting interested in the OLDER drum-machines and other gear. besides getting them and using them to create music, i started to get interested in how they "worked" and i started to compare the similarities to the newer stuff. nothing serious, it was just for my own curiousity and for fun. I started catching things used on ebay like a sp12, mpc 60, mpc 60II. These where the things that was out when i 1st got into making music but did have the "pocket to cop it" at the time. i had found an ASR-10 on craigslist for like $350 a while ago and jumped all over it. my boys give me a hard time cause they say i buy stuff, learn how to use it then dump it back on ebay or craigs,lol! They say "dam man, you done had everything on the market". besides making music with these pieces i find a certain "fun" in getting them and seeing what was the difference between the technology then vs now

[Paul_G]

Just for sampling as I use pro tools for arranging:
S950
Casio RZ1
Sp1200
MPC 200xl

The S950 does great things to loops if its overloaded and then timestretched.

Paul G

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Paul_G

Just for sampling as I use pro tools for arranging:
S950
Casio RZ1
Sp1200
MPC 200xl

The S950 does great things to loops if its overloaded and then timestretched.

Paul G

I use the same equipment for my sampling duties (Except i use the SP-12 instead of the SP-1200). I find that they have so much character, especially the S950, RZ-1 and SP.
I find that each of those machines tend to give interesting results when overloaded slightly.
When you timestretch in the S950, do you use the function in a practical sense (to get the appropriate bpm for the track) or do you use it purely for the effect?
The SP also has that fantastic sound when you pitch the sample down.

[Paul_G]

Originally Posted by dialectic

I use the same equipment for my sampling duties (Except i use the SP-12 instead of the SP-1200). I find that they have so much character, especially the S950, RZ-1 and SP.
I find that each of those machines tend to give interesting results when overloaded slightly.
When you timestretch in the S950, do you use the function in a practical sense (to get the appropriate bpm for the track) or do you use it purely for the effect?
The SP also has that fantastic sound when you pitch the sample down.

I tend to use the Timestretching as an effect. I discovered it by accident and have always loved the aliasing and weird artifacts it introduces. I used it a lot on our first 2 records.
Yes the SP is fun, I haven't tried pitching down dramatically so I'll check it out, thanks for the tip.

Cheers

Paul G

[phillysoulman]

Roland VS 1680s have an "interesting" inherent low end response, so sometimes you can route your bass and kick thru it on input and back out to your daw.
There are also some other "tricks"that can be applied thru it via a little experimentation.

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Paul_G

I tend to use the Timestretching as an effect. I discovered it by accident and have always loved the aliasing and weird artifacts it introduces. I used it a lot on our first 2 records.
Yes the SP is fun, I haven't tried pitching down dramatically so I'll check it out, thanks for the tip.

Cheers

Paul G

Regarding the SP:Try sampling from ya LP's @ 45 RPM instead of the correct speed of 33 RPM and pitch up the turntable say +8. Once inside the SP, pitch down that loop/drum break and you'll get this weird ring modulation type sound. This gives that sound typical of early DJ Muggs, Pete Rock, And Bomb Squad/Lench Mob production like that found on Amerikkkas most wanted.

Regarding the S950's "overload & timestretch technique": I love the timestretch function of this machine. I find the timestretching on the 950 is a great example of so bad its good, I love it on drums. I havent really experimented much with the overload and timestretch method that you mention but will be firing up the 950 later on!
When you utilise timestretch in this way, do you usually timestretch the loop/drum break twice in order to return it to the original tempo but with the aliasing etc?

By the way Mr Godfrey, I love those feckin records.thumbsup

[Paul_G]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Regarding the SP:Try sampling from ya LP's @ 45 RPM instead of the correct speed of 33 RPM and pitch up the turntable say +8. Once inside the SP, pitch down that loop/drum break and you'll get this weird ring modulation type sound. This gives that sound typical of early DJ Muggs, Pete Rock, And Bomb Squad/Lench Mob production like that found on Amerikkkas most wanted.

Regarding the S950's "overload & timestretch technique": I love the timestretch function of this machine. I find the timestretching on the 950 is a great example of so bad its good, I love it on drums. I havent really experimented much with the overload and timestretch method that you mention but will be firing up the 950 later on!
When you utilise timestretch in this way, do you usually timestretch the loop/drum break twice in order to return it to the original tempo but with the aliasing etc?

By the way Mr Godfrey, I love those feckin records.thumbsup

Hey Dialectic,
Thanks again - RE: the SP, that makes great sense, it's what we used to do when we only had 1.5 seconds of sample time on the early cheap samplers and it used to sound heavy.
Yes the timestretching is so bad it does sound cool. Check "never an easy way" or "Big Calm" for the sound. I sample a loop, pitch it down to the correct tempo to see if it grooves and then timestretch some random amount until it sounds ill. Its pretty hit and miss with the S950 but when it's on it's on.
Thanks for the compliments dude!
Cheers
Paul G

[B.A.]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Regarding the interface and the filters of the Mo Phatt module, are they the same as those found on the other modules in the range?

How many extra cards can be fitted into the unit?

Are the sounds of the Mo Phatt module hardwired into the module or are they on a card which comes supplied and installed with it?

I have a Proteus 2000 and Vintage Pro and they both came with their stock 32MB ROM and they both had 3 additional slots so you could add other ROMs. I fully expanded both so they each now have 128MB of sounds ranging from drums & percussion, bass/synths, a variety of instuments to just some weird s#!t, just a good variety of stuff.

-B.A.

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Paul_G

Hey Dialectic,
Thanks again - RE: the SP, that makes great sense, it's what we used to do when we only had 1.5 seconds of sample time on the early cheap samplers and it used to sound heavy.
Yes the timestretching is so bad it does sound cool. Check "never an easy way" or "Big Calm" for the sound. I sample a loop, pitch it down to the correct tempo to see if it grooves and then timestretch some random amount until it sounds ill. Its pretty hit and miss with the S950 but when it's on it's on.
Thanks for the compliments dude!
Cheers
Paul G

Thanks for the info mate, much appreciated. I understand that you've been using the S950 from the time of the 1st record but how long have you been rocking the RZ-1 and SP-1200. Have you been using them from the beginning or did you happen to pick up those dirty rascals along the way?
Apart from the samplers, what other hardware are you using?

[utters]

Originally Posted by beat you down

i only use the s950 to sample stuff, i then send it to my daw for further processing and sequencing etc.

thumbsup straight off the turntable

[Paul_G]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Thanks for the info mate, much appreciated. I understand that you've been using the S950 from the time of the 1st record but how long have you been rocking the RZ-1 and SP-1200. Have you been using them from the beginning or did you happen to pick up those dirty rascals along the way?
Apart from the samplers, what other hardware are you using?

I picked them up when we made some money as we were on a very tight budget for the first couple of records.
I have lots of old drum machines - DMX, 808, S.C. Drumtraks and other rhythmic stuff plus various vintage keyboards.
I also have quite a bit of vintage outboard gear and microphones.
I'm a hoarder but I'm trying to strip it down so I can get on with music again.
Paul G

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Paul_G

I picked them up when we made some money as we were on a very tight budget for the first couple of records.
I have lots of old drum machines - DMX, 808, S.C. Drumtraks and other rhythmic stuff plus various vintage keyboards.
I also have quite a bit of vintage outboard gear and microphones.
I'm a hoarder but I'm trying to strip it down so I can get on with music again.
Paul G

Sounds like you've got ya self quite a collection. Doesnt sound like your gonna be going down the 100% plug-ins route any time soon!
What mics/pres do you use when tracking your 'live' drums?

[Paul_G]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Sounds like you've got ya self quite a collection. Doesnt sound like your gonna be going down the 100% plug-ins route any time soon!
What mics/pres do you use when tracking your 'live' drums?

I use Calrec pre's mostly, they sound very fat.
PG

[Jake Gilla]

Can someone do me a favor and post or PM me a picture of the s950 back panel. even just a list of ALL connections on the back would be useful.

Thanks folks

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Jake Gilla

Can someone do me a favor and post or PM me a picture of the s950 back panel. even just a list of ALL connections on the back would be useful.

Thanks folks

Just hold tight and i shall post a photo of the S950 soon.

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Jake Gilla

Can someone do me a favor and post or PM me a picture of the s950 back panel. even just a list of ALL connections on the back would be useful.

Thanks folks

Here is a pic of the AKAI S950's back panel where you can clearly see (from left to right):
MIX OUT, LEFT OUT, RIGHT OUT, INDIVIDUAL OUTS 1-8, VOICE OUT...further along to the right (just out of shot) are MIDI IN, OUT & THRU.
Below the audio outputs you can see the SCSI board which you'll be lucky to get hold of cos they're as rare as rocking horse shit. And next to that is the RC232C connection. If you need further explanation to some of these connections, you should be able to find an S950 manual on-line to download. Failing that i could email you a copy in PDF format if you like. Hope this helps.

[icyroc]

i got sp1200 im trying to let it go.. i need a good mic pre... its in good condition
had it in a special case... for years and now it is decoration...

[DR. Mootz]

Yeah!, I got a Sp-1200, ASR-X, Emax HD/SE, K-2000RS, Planet Phatt, Emu E5000 Ultra, Casio RZ-1 for the best sounding ride cymbal and a MPC1000 with the JJ O.S. . But now I'm trying to get a MPC-60II, S950 & Casio FZ10 and I just found out that the E-MU Ultra samplers with OS 4.07 and later can COPY!! all the Proteus2000 Roms to there Hard Drives so now I'm teying to borrow some of my friends Emu racks...

[Jake Gilla]

Originally Posted by dialectic

Here is a pic of the AKAI S950's back panel where you can clearly see (from left to right):
MIX OUT, LEFT OUT, RIGHT OUT, INDIVIDUAL OUTS 1-8, VOICE OUT...further along to the right (just out of shot) are MIDI IN, OUT & THRU.
Below the audio outputs you can see the SCSI board which you'll be lucky to get hold of cos they're as rare as rocking horse shit. And next to that is the RC232C connection. If you need further explanation to some of these connections, you should be able to find an S950 manual on-line to download. Failing that i could email you a copy in PDF format if you like. Hope this helps.

Thanks, picture didn't come through but the list does it for me. I got a copy of the manual but couldn't find this specific info. One other thing is the Input on the front or back? You didn't list it here. It is a Stereo in correct?

Much appreciated.

[Justice]

Dude......


The MPC3G should be # FN 1!


Its Still makes me money!

I want something EMU though...

and I want a ASR-10...

[dialectic]

Originally Posted by Jake Gilla

Thanks, picture didn't come through but the list does it for me. I got a copy of the manual but couldn't find this specific info. One other thing is the Input on the front or back? You didn't list it here. It is a Stereo in correct?

Much appreciated.

The audio inputs are situated at the front but it isnt stereo. This is a mono sampler and you have 1 'mic input' and 1 'line input'. In addition to this there is also a rec/playback trigger input.