Uad 1 Plug Ins

[larrygates]

Originally Posted by gregohb

I have demo'ed the Fairchild twice and I just don't like it or get much out of it at all. I really wanted to like - knowing that its the most expensive piece of hardware modeled, and that it was used by the Beatles. But it seems hard to work, and I couldnt get any thing good out of it at all.

The VU has a nice GUI, and it definitely sounds different, but it just seemed thin compared to the main three 1176, la2a, la3a which I use all the time. I think the la3a is my favorite in general now.

That thinness will happen with the Fairchild. Including a "real" one. Heard that from a Puig video. Where they shine to me is on vox & guitars (Puig) again. I put them on Vox busses, and Maybe on a lead or bkg.

[Jorg]

Originally Posted by Drlove

I'm going to order soon. You guys have convinced me.

1176, LA2A or LA3A?

I use the LA2A and 1176LN all the time. Both are amazing.

[smoke]

Yeah, that Fairchild is something to program.

I haven't figured it out really, but I can get it to perform some fx type stuff on guitar, piano, or even synth. The DC Bias knobs along with the threshold are your best friends. You can get interesting release tails with nice long sustain by pushing it. Sometimes you need to reduce the gain, and increase the output. I find that the FC sounds best when the needle is tickling between 0 and -2. I use the Bias control to tighten the compression to land in that area.

I like to take groups of synth or piano and send to the FC with about 50% return. At times it's hard to tell if it's better, but when you bypass that send, the mojo is missing.

Stapping a Helios after the FC seems to bring those lows back out, however I avoid sending bass heavy elements to it, unless I want to actually use it as a quasi high pass compressor for some sort of effect.

I love the fact that you have to really work to get a good sound out of it, and yes 60% of the time, it ruins the sound. That's when you move on to the 1176 or something else!

...also, understanding each time constant setting (att/rel) is key to sculpting your sound. Should not be a random decision there. I use Senn HPs to really hear what it's doing, while referring to the manual to keep track of those att/rel times.

yeah that's my fav plug-in period.

[larrygates]

Originally Posted by smoke

I use Senn HPs

D AMMIT. MY DOG AT MY SENNHEISERS. God I loved those phones. I could practically do an entire mix on them. Esp the spacial elements. D AMN DOG. ATE MY COUCH TOO.

[jimmydeluxe]

I use the la3a most, because 1). less cpu 2). less dark than la2a

I use all 3 alot (3a, 2a, 1176), however.

I've almost never had a use for helios, I will try it on bass, but I usually like my modulus as is through my pres, with just a little la3a.

I disagree, I find the Fairchild to be amazing almost always on the buss, if I need to, I compensate for the bass loss with post comp eq. Awhile back, someone posted a recommended setting to start with on UAD's site, which I've always used as a great starting point, and works most of the time. it is:

left/right/lat/vert=5

dc bias=2 o'clock

threshold=0

in/out gain= adjust as needed

This setting almost always add pseudo-analog life to the midrange of a mix I have, much like my neve 5043 comp.

[smoke]

Originally Posted by larrygates

D AMMIT. MY DOG AT MY SENNHEISERS. God I loved those phones. I could practically do an entire mix on them. Esp the spacial elements. D AMN DOG. ATE MY COUCH TOO.

Certainly one of these days, he'll shit them out. Clean it up and you're good to go!

You're missing out, if you don't use Helios. Not only does it add a nice tone to your lows, it also bring the "tooth" out of the mids, if you like that hard sound. I like scratching and string noise, so a little 4.5 and 10khz tends to be my sweetening tools.

Neither the Pultec nor the Neves can do exactly what the Helios can do. I think it also has the best sounding trough.

[larrygates]

Originally Posted by smoke

Certainly one of these days, he'll shit them out. Clean it up and you're good to go!

You're missing out, if you don't use Helios. Not only does it add a nice tone to your lows, it also bring the "tooth" out of the mids, if you like that hard sound. I like scratching and string noise, so a little 4.5 and 10khz tends to be my sweetening tools.

Neither the Pultec nor the Neves can do exactly what the Helios can do. I think it also has the best sounding trough.

Yes Smoky you're right about the Helios. I love it, but that wasn't me who said I didn't use it. It was the guy above.

Also that DC trick is a nice one, I read that a while back, basically your DC acts as the ratio for the Fairchild, very subtle and very light. You were off about the Lat/Vert setting though. That's just a toggle switch and not many people are going to be doing M/S compression, cause most have no clue what that is in the first place. Duh

[smoke]

^^ LOL were mixing each other up, because that other guy mentioned the Lat/Vert.

I haven't found a use for Lat/Vert other then "pretending" I'm doing something special, while trashing my signal.

[larrygates]

Originally Posted by smoke

^^ LOL were mixing each other up, because that other guy mentioned the Lat/Vert.

I haven't found a use for Lat/Vert other then "pretending" I'm doing something special, while trashing my signal.

Smoke the problem is that you don't understand what Lat/Vert really is. It's mid/side compression.

What you do when you engage lat vert is have control over the middle signal (mono) and stereo portions (lateral). This means you can Spread out a stereo sound more or collapse into mono more, with compression. This is a ridiculous tech to get your music into that WIDER sound that A LOT of people talk about. But, no one here ever talks about m/s because again, people have no idea what it is, it's hard to set up, hard to do right (phase problems), and only Reaper with it's insane routing features let you use it at your discretion. Other programs need a lot more help to do it, but it's there. Let alone just applying say a Neve or Helios EQ to just the sides of a signal.

Can't do that in hardly any of the DAWs out now. Except a couple.

[Aries]

Hey guys...I m really interested in getting a few Uad cards for my Pc. I'm just not really a computer expert and i m not sure what type of slots i need to have open on my motherboard??can someone explain breifly what i need to look for inside my pc to see if theres even room to install any??I run a Intel Core 2 Duo 3ghz with 4 gigs of ram, im not sure what the name of my motherboard is??but my brother works at the computer store that built my machine so once i know what im looking for i can get it figured out....thx in advance....

Also if you have the plug ins will they work with any card??or how does that work...i notice some people saying you shoudl have 4 cards??that sounds good but also very expensive??Is it possible to run with 2? or even 1 just to get started??or what are the downsides to this? Ive never had plugins that needed their own card before....so im new to this. But after watching some videos and reading im set on getting this working in my lab for sure...Anyway any help would be great or even a link to a thread on here that could answer these questions...

[smoke]

Your PC is ok. Go to UAD and check out your options.

Depending on your needs UAD1 might be enough, but UAD2 is probably better in the long run.

[Aries]

I was just there checking it out...thx

[superjc]

Now that the UAD-2 is out, I"m seeing UAD-1's out on eBay for less than $250 "buy it now" option. I have one and have only maxed it out once or twice, delays eat up the most memory. I also have 2 TC Powercores so the work is spread around.
Roland CE-1 best software chorus I have ever heard by a mile, I want the Dimension D that's next.

Cambridge EQ best software EQ I have heard by a mile, worth EVER PENNY. Totally powerful, clean and surgical with filters as well... keep your eye on eBay you will find deals!

One of me TC Electronics Powercore PCI (MK1) came with an Access Virus, got the whole thing shipped $500. BTW the base model UAD-2 is supposed to be 2.5x more powerful than a UAD-1. I hear the Neve channel strips use a lot of memory

[Aries]

i posted this on the uad forum as well...thoughtid copy it here too just to see if anyone has any pointers or can help me through my purchase....ive included the specs of my motherboard as well....

Hey guys...I m really interested in getting some uad cards and plugs running in my studio. Ive looked over the online store, the site and called my local music store which can order me my card/plugs. Now i m just confused about WHAT to buy? How do the packages work?? They have packages from $500 all the way up to one for $2199.00??However they cant see info on what your getting for those prices??

Does anyone have any info they can share on this? I have a Intel Core 2 duo 3.0ghz proc with 4 gigs of 800mhz Ram....i m pretty sure my Pc can handle it...im just not sure how many cards i should buy or which package is right for me. For example when you get the $2199.00 package that comes with ALL plugs, how many cards does it come with??

This stuff is confusing to me. Ive read that some people use up to 4 cards or more? or get the expander??is that what this $2199 package is??For me money isn't a problem as i ve financed everything i own and have a good credit record with the store i deal with. Anyway this is going to be my next purchase for sure...i just wanna make sure i get what i need and make sure i m not spending a couple grans on something that isn't gonna work once it gets here....

I mainly do Hip Hop/R&b music but also record Drums, guitars, Bass, Steel drum among other instruments. Im mainly interested in the Fairchild, Neve, 1176 and some others...

Someone please help guide me in the right direction for my purchase??Thanks...

heres some links to my motherboard....is this gonna work for me??i only have one pci e slot and my video card is using it...i have 3 other pci slots tho? and some mini pci?take a look...lemme know?

http://www.intel.com/Products/Desktop/M ... erview.htm
http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/m ... uments.htm

thx
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[Aries]

So im being told that getting into the uad2 flexi pack would be a good idea...any thoughts?anyone using these?

[blayz2002]

Originally Posted by Aries

So im being told that getting into the uad2 flexi pack would be a good idea...any thoughts?anyone using these?

There are so many UAD threads on Gearslutz, use the search function. Also have a look a the UA site. All the info you are after is already out there...do some research!

[smoke]

I love my UAD, but seriously you have to be careful taking advice from some of the fanboys on that site. You might not need to run 4 cards. Do you need to run 10 33609 compressors?

What is your plug-in usage like currently? Do you need a compressor on every track? Can you get away with *cringes* the bundled DAW EQ?? Are you gonna use a 1073 just for the HP or can you just use your general EQ for that purpose. Must you use the Cambridge Butterworth LPF to save your song, or is there another way to correct the problem without a DSP plug? Do you NEED a moog filter?

It all comes down to how you work. Really, you have to do research on what the plug-ins can add to your reportoire, and figure out which plugs are just icing (like precision enhancer for ex.) All the plugs are good, but UAD can become a money sink real fast. Plug-ins aren't going to automatically make you into a better mixer, so the more you can load up doesn't mean sh*t. Actually it can be a distraction from the proper way to get your sound correct.

[blayz2002]

Just start with one card..then you'll know if you want / need more, and when I said UA site I meant Universal Audio 's site...they have tech specs that tell you how many plugs can run on a card etc.

[Justice]

I cant beleive it but I agree totally with Philly..


The UAD is a soild buy for any hip hop/R&B engineer/producer.

My fav is LA-2A over my groups.....

Looking to get the 88RS soon, man I cant wait for that one.

[Justice]

Originally Posted by rickrock305

wow, what crawled up your ass? not allowed to have a little fun here and there?


I'm also a recording PROFESSIONAL with a pro ATTITUDE


and most of my clients appreciate a little humor here and there. man, your sessions must be STIFF

Not to start shit up but I was thinking the same thing....

Smoke a J Philly, or drink coffee, just chill. We all respect your vision...

being "That Guy" is not the thing for 2008-2009...

I'm just sayin...

[gregohb]

Originally Posted by Drlove

I'm going to order soon. You guys have convinced me.

1176, LA2A or LA3A?

I personally like the LA3A best - as something of a hybrid. The LA2A seems too subtle to me many times. The LA3A is not working on the UAD2 yet - along with the Prec Buss Compr, Prec EQ, PRec Maximizer etc. Hopefully in a few months.

[Aries]

Yea i m excited to get my order on!!!Just waiting for Pay Day...

[sheever]

pultec pro the winner if you talking about worthing.
check the vintage eq demos on UAD site you will see.
almost beat all other eqs...for that price.

[gearaddict]

Is there a delay problem with the uad plugs in PT...I want to buy one also but dont want to bother with delay comp!!!