Mix Engineers ... what do you like to see? - Page 3

Tony Shepperd · 19th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

I'm so glad I don't do music production and engineering for a living anymore.
This type of thing rarely happens in post, and never with a major studio.

If you are a member of IATSE, they would never let this happen.

Henchman · 19th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

If you are a member of IATSE, they would never let this happen.

Not ALL post facilities in LA are union.
But it NEVER happens at a union facility.

Jake Gilla · 19th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jake Gilla

It looks like Mix Engineers need to unionize.....

First Page.

I was under the impression most the entertainment industry was unionizing. I don't get why recording engineers aren't. I could have swore I saw something on the IBEW page.

backbuss · 19th June 2008

when i open a session id like to see everything labeled correctly......

groups are great ..... for bgvs and inst

cleaned up ...... no clicks and pops..... crossfades....

listen to the audio before you consolidate it if you do that.....

make sure all elements are there, and nothing is left out.....

check your disk allocation before sending it off....

really simple things...... im not a hard one to please.....

pretty much as soon as i open the session it needs to be ready to mix.... i dont wanna spend hours of editing before hand.....

if there are special notes dont be afraid to use the comment section on the channel

-samiam-

Sirocco · 19th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoundProofStudio

I like to see actual waveforms and not brickwall forms....

i call em' block ofs luvvvvv

Sirocco · 19th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by backbuss

when i open a session id like to see everything labeled correctly......

groups are great ..... for bgvs and inst

cleaned up ...... no clicks and pops..... crossfades....

listen to the audio before you consolidate it if you do that.....

make sure all elements are there, and nothing is left out.....

check your disk allocation before sending it off....

really simple things...... im not a hard one to please.....

pretty much as soon as i open the session it needs to be ready to mix.... i dont wanna spend hours of editing before hand.....

if there are special notes dont be afraid to use the comment section on the channel

-samiam-

in your dreams, pal

backbuss · 20th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirocco

in your dreams, pal

yeah i know its simple but the majority of the sessions i get take hours to prep.......

but one can dream.......

-samiam-

EKG Productions · 20th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by backbuss

yeah i know its simple but the majority of the sessions i get take hours to prep.......

but one can dream.......

-samiam-

Good to see more engineering star power on Gear Slutz. Keep up the good work.

SoundProofStudio · 20th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirocco

i call em' block ofs luvvvvv

Lol... I like that one... Or even blocks O'Shit....

nukmusic · 20th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by backbuss

yeah i know its simple but the majority of the sessions i get take hours to prep.......

but one can dream.......

-samiam-

ya...u kinda

get use to it after a while.

ryst · 20th June 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by backbuss

yeah i know its simple but the majority of the sessions i get take hours to prep.......

but one can dream.......

-samiam-

I know some of the big dogs like CLA use assistants for the prep work. Unfortunately, I can't justify that right now.

Barznbeats1 · 21st June 2008

I hate to see the sessions with a dverb on every track.

Charles Dye · 18th July 2008

When you open a session to mix, what makes your day?

A project or session the follows the NARAS DAW Guidelines for Music Production let's me get right to work.

And what makes you grumpy?

Projects or sessions that don't follow the guidelines. I waste tons of time trying to untangle the mess.

Sessions from real instruments or from keyboards/drum machines that someone else recorded?

I love working with live drums, bass, el + ac gtrs, but also loved programmed stuff. Not a big fan or fake drums on rock songs tho. (I realize this is the Rap + Hip Hop forum, but anyways....)

Tracks

Kick - both

SN - top & bottom, but don't always use the btm

RM - stereo... puhleaze.

Lead VOX - one comped take

BKG VOX - as big or as little as you need

GTR - amped

BASS - amped + DI

HORNS - lovem

Recording Levels - not too low + not hyper compressed; more waveform than whitespace pleaze

Tracks in a certain order (from left to right) - bass, loops, drums, perc, gtrs (if gtr driven), keys 1st (if key driven), horns, strings, lead vox, dbl vox, harm vox, bg vox.

Certain things mono or stereo - whatever you want, but pleaze NO MONO "STEREO" TRACKS (like a mono synth bass on two tracks... pain in the ars)

Rough Mixes - most recent

etc...

click track
tempo map
song markers

I label everything before recording audio. I also utilize the comment box on protools tracks to note mics, preamps, or whatever was used. Set song tempo, renumber bars (3 becomes 1) and many other little things.

Very nice. That all sounds awesome. The bar renumbering is a nice touch.

Cool thread, nuk. thumbsup

nukmusic · 19th July 2008

Just trying to "CHAT" about something that matters Charles.

and ya. I renumber the bars so that the session has two blank measures before any audio plays. Most of the engineers I pass on sessions to, also love it.

Maybe I'll start a thread asking "what's a chord" so folks can continue to assume they know more than others

(just joking)

themaestro · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henchman

And I actually find that completely acceptable.
Why should you get back-end for something not being used?

right, i cant be mad about that! i'm just glad for the front end advance

Trell Blaze · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by themaestro

right, i cant be mad about that! i'm just glad for the front end advance

Uh oh...Gearslutz is allowing rep points now? This could potentially turn into something very bad very quickly...

Jake Gilla · 19th July 2008

Charles, thanks for posting up those guidelines. I DLed them and plan on formatting all my sessions in this matter from now on.

Much appreciated.

themaestro · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trell Blaze

Uh oh...Gearslutz is allowing rep points now? This could potentially turn into something very bad very quickly...

???

Trell Blaze · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by themaestro

???

I just noticed the "iTrader" thing under the avatars. Appearently you can rate traders (or buyers...or sellers).

phillysoulman · 19th July 2008

What I would really like to see is a non-cocky rapper and a "producer" who doesnt think he is on some "next shit".

Trell Blaze · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

What I would really like to see is a non-cocky rapper and a "producer" who doesnt think he is on some "next shit".

You'll have to wait till they stop manufacturing Fruity Loops...

phillysoulman · 19th July 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trell Blaze

You'll have to wait till they stop manufacturing Fruity Loops...

Yo Trell..you're making me laugh!!!!!

themanager · 3rd August 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by themaestro

right, i cant be mad about that! i'm just glad for the front end advance

so if you receive the front end advance but no backend, does the label own the beat or could you keep the advance and then shop it to others?

18th July 2008	#73
Charles Dye FX smörgåsbord user Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hollywood, FL Posts: 881	When you open a session to mix, what makes your day? A project or session the follows the NARAS DAW Guidelines for Music Production let's me get right to work. And what makes you grumpy? Projects or sessions that don't follow the guidelines. I waste tons of time trying to untangle the mess. Sessions from real instruments or from keyboards/drum machines that someone else recorded? I love working with live drums, bass, el + ac gtrs, but also loved programmed stuff. Not a big fan or fake drums on rock songs tho. (I realize this is the Rap + Hip Hop forum, but anyways....) Tracks Kick - both SN - top & bottom, but don't always use the btm RM - stereo... puhleaze. Lead VOX - one comped take BKG VOX - as big or as little as you need GTR - amped BASS - amped + DI HORNS - lovem Recording Levels - not too low + not hyper compressed; more waveform than whitespace pleaze Tracks in a certain order (from left to right) - bass, loops, drums, perc, gtrs (if gtr driven), keys 1st (if key driven), horns, strings, lead vox, dbl vox, harm vox, bg vox. Certain things mono or stereo - whatever you want, but pleaze NO MONO "STEREO" TRACKS (like a mono synth bass on two tracks... pain in the ars) Rough Mixes - most recent etc... click track tempo map song markers I label everything before recording audio. I also utilize the comment box on protools tracks to note mics, preamps, or whatever was used. Set song tempo, renumber bars (3 becomes 1) and many other little things. Very nice. That all sounds awesome. The bar renumbering is a nice touch. Cool thread, nuk. thumbsup __________________ Facebook \| MySpace \| Auraleo \| eSession

19th July 2008	#74
nukmusic Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Dallas, TX / New Orleans, LA Posts: 4,667 Thread Starter	Just trying to "CHAT" about something that matters Charles. and ya. I renumber the bars so that the session has two blank measures before any audio plays. Most of the engineers I pass on sessions to, also love it. Maybe I'll start a thread asking "what's a chord" so folks can continue to assume they know more than others (just joking) __________________ . Docta'J aka Big NUK Practice Makes Progress www.twitter.com/nukmusic

19th July 2008	#80
phillysoulman Lives for gear Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: The City Of Brotherly Love And Sisterly Affection Posts: 8,141	What I would really like to see is a non-cocky rapper and a "producer" who doesnt think he is on some "next shit". __________________ *More Bass In All Frequencies*

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19th June 2008	#64
backbuss Gear Head Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Atlanta Posts: 62	when i open a session id like to see everything labeled correctly...... groups are great ..... for bgvs and inst cleaned up ...... no clicks and pops..... crossfades.... listen to the audio before you consolidate it if you do that..... make sure all elements are there, and nothing is left out..... check your disk allocation before sending it off.... really simple things...... im not a hard one to please..... pretty much as soon as i open the session it needs to be ready to mix.... i dont wanna spend hours of editing before hand..... if there are special notes dont be afraid to use the comment section on the channel -samiam-

21st June 2008	#72
Barznbeats1 Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 404	I hate to see the sessions with a dverb on every track.

19th July 2008	#77
Jake Gilla Gear maniac Join Date: May 2008 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 244	Charles, thanks for posting up those guidelines. I DLed them and plan on formatting all my sessions in this matter from now on. Much appreciated.