SAMIAM Mixing SUCKA 4 LUV....

[Barznbeats1]

Originally Posted by Teh Guerilla

my ideal world would a 200 channel SSL fully integrated with protools for all the automation. that way all my 135 tracks of VOX on half the R&B songs i record could each get their own channel. if mixing... when it comes to channels, more is better.

You ATLiens on those big boards make me sick! lol My time is coming soon though! Was supposed to be up there today but had to deal with some things at the crib. Look forward to linking up with you Atliens soon though!

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by Barznbeats1

You ATLiens on those big boards make me sick! lol My time is coming soon though! Was supposed to be up there today but had to deal with some things at the crib. Look forward to linking up with you Atliens soon though!

heres a deal you might no wanna pass up....it's not an ssl....but it'll get you feeling like you're near one
Mackie 32•8 console WITH 24•E Expander w/meter bridges - eBay (item 280237467873 end time Jun-27-08 09:45:54 PDT)

[nukmusic]

Originally Posted by Barznbeats1

So when is the next vid gonna hit the www?

ya when....?

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by scorpio01169

heres a deal you might no wanna pass up....it's not an ssl....but it'll get you feeling like you're near one
Mackie 32•8 console WITH 24•E Expander w/meter bridges - eBay (item 280237467873 end time Jun-27-08 09:45:54 PDT)

not really... It will make you feel like your near a piece of shit Mackie.

[nukmusic]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

not really... It will make you feel like your near a piece of shit Mackie.

FWIW in that past got some pretty good mixes on those "piece of shits" when they did work correctly.

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

FWIW in that past got some pretty good mixes on those "piece of shits" when they did work correctly.

I've gotten alota good mixes myself...and so has some top engineers....but if you cant .....then maybe it's your skills

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by scorpio01169

I've gotten alota good mixes myself...and so has some top engineers....but if you cant .....then maybe it's your skills

Are we talking about our mixes or a Mackie in comparison to an SSL?

The mixes you or anyone else has gotten on a Mackie are irrelevant. Unless, you are comparing them to mixes you have done on an SSL.

Let's seperate the engineering talents from the gear.

I have gotten very good mixes using a Mackie and 2 adats (about 10 years ago), but I certainly wouldn't give that shit any credit for it. That gear certainly didnt make getting that good sound easier.

I would much rather mix ITB with plugins than on a Mackie.... Give me a cheap plugin EQ like Waves Renn Eq over a Mackie EQ.

At the end of the day a Mackie 32-8 is a piece of shit, regardless of the work someone puts in to make a mix they did on one sound good.

[tonymission]

Originally Posted by Barznbeats1

You ATLiens on those big boards make me sick! lol My time is coming soon though! Was supposed to be up there today but had to deal with some things at the crib. Look forward to linking up with you Atliens soon though!

thats wassup... and lemme know when you're in town. oh, and to answer your question that no one has been answering -- no, none of us will be at club dreams this weekend. we don't do that. lol ... and i can confidently speak for all the GS ATL heads that we wont be at Dreams... or Esso... or ...

we're in the studio on satuday night!! we dont have saturday nights... its just like any other night! lol

:P

oh, and, ive done some real fun work on a mackie (i still own my sr24-4)... although they definitely have their own sound, instead of fighting it, you can take it in its own direction and at least let it do its thing. definitely servicable although t-bel's comment made me chuckle out loud i admit :P

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

not really... It will make you feel like your near a piece of shit Mackie.

[tonymission]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Are we talking about our mixes or a Mackie in comparison to an SSL?

The mixes you or anyone else has gotten on a Mackie are irrelevant. Unless, you are comparing them to mixes you have done on an SSL.

Let's seperate the engineering talents from the gear.

I have gotten very good mixes using a Mackie and 2 adats (about 10 years ago), but I certainly wouldn't give that shit any credit for it. That gear certainly didnt make getting that good sound easier.

I would much rather mix ITB with plugins than on a Mackie.... Give me a cheap plugin EQ like Waves Renn Eq over a Mackie EQ.

At the end of the day a Mackie 32-8 is a piece of shit, regardless of the work someone puts in to make a mix they did on one sound good.

very good and relevent post ...

"i wouldnt give it any credit for the mix"

that's a good point. you/we know what we're doing so mackie or an ssl, it's going to come out.

that doesnt make the hair pulling out process any better ... ;-)

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Originally Posted by backbuss

yes and yes...... i use 1 kik multiple times .... create the sound of the spectrum ..... i.e. booom>>>>mid>>>>punch>>>>attack.... all in one makes one schwacking kik ....
also sometimes there is 3 or 4 different kiks going on.... so i'll blend them all together to make 1 explosive hit(of course it depends on the song)

yes, clients do give me guidelines, but most of the time they let me do me, thats why they called me to do it .... because of the creativity i bring to the mix.....

alot of time i roll off 300hz and below off the reverb so i wont get the low end in the verb.....kinda helps clear it up........

sometimes i use the same reverb as the snare and sometime i use an additional one for vocals(depends on dynamics of song)

does this help?

-samiam-

Hey sam big fan of you and b cox's work. My questions for you is that I am a big logic studio user. I do everything in it from the beat to the vocals. I understand a lot of mixers use pro tools. Is there a way when i got a logic session with the beats seperated and vocals on it to be one clean session so i can just place it on dvds and send it to a professional mixer.

Basically what i am asking is there a way to export my finished logic session complete with vocals and audio seperates so that someone who mixes with pro tools can easily open it up.... I heard there is a way to do this??

and second is there any plug in you can recommend to get that i can use to get my drums and instruments crisp like on "catching feelings" "fantasia - only one u"


thanks

[frank lyon]

Originally Posted by gdeusthewhizkid

Hey sam big fan of you and b cox's work. My questions for you is that I am a big logic studio user. I do everything in it from the beat to the vocals. I understand a lot of mixers use pro tools. Is there a way when i got a logic session with the beats seperated and vocals on it to be one clean session so i can just place it on dvds and send it to a professional mixer.

Basically what i am asking is there a way to export my finished logic session complete with vocals and audio seperates so that someone who mixes with pro tools can easily open it up.... I heard there is a way to do this??

consolidated stems?

[Barznbeats1]

digitranslator

[gdeusthewhizkid]

Originally Posted by frank lyon

consolidated stems?

what's that? is that an option in logic.

[nukmusic]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Are we talking about our mixes or a Mackie in comparison to an SSL?

The mixes you or anyone else has gotten on a Mackie are irrelevant. Unless, you are comparing them to mixes you have done on an SSL.

Let's seperate the engineering talents from the gear.

I have gotten very good mixes using a Mackie and 2 adats (about 10 years ago), but I certainly wouldn't give that shit any credit for it. That gear certainly didnt make getting that good sound easier.

I would much rather mix ITB with plugins than on a Mackie.... Give me a cheap plugin EQ like Waves Renn Eq over a Mackie EQ.

At the end of the day a Mackie 32-8 is a piece of shit, regardless of the work someone puts in to make a mix they did on one sound good.

good points. But I, myself was only making a statement, not comparing an SSL to a Mackie.

and I have compared an old mix I did on 3 different formats just for fun. Mackie/adats, small 4000e/g and Protools ITB. Each one turned out pretty good. You might ask "what was better?"
but its irrelevant if they all were good. (right?)

and why would you ever seperate engineering talents from the gear? what's more important?



-samiam-

what's up with next Studio Exposed episode? I been peepin the vids since the beginning. The 1st few shows were nice. aint nothing like having fun in the studio.

[Barznbeats1]

Its an option for protools that allows you to open sessions created in other Programs.\

[illacov]

First off Sam, congrats.

I think in defense of Sam and anybody else with the balls to put themselves on the internet, showing what they look like, work like, sound like, act like, the man did what we've been dying to see for years.

As far as hatin, whatever. Engineers are chosen for projects because of their talent. If you work with great artists and choose your clients more power to you, either way both of ya'll eat, so if the song itself aint your cup of tea, then get into songwriting. Make better songs and mix them yourself.

I doubt if an engineer shows you his session he's trying to say yo this song is this and that or I'm this because of this song. He's showing you his or her portfolio. Work is work.

And most of ALL. Engineers are NERDS.

I'm a NERD.

We are the uncoolest (to the general public) group of people in pop culture.

A guy that knows more about cables and mics, preamps, eqs and multi tap delays is a nerd. Football players know less about their equipment than a NERD does.

So big ups to Sam for making it look cool. And if you a true gearslut its nice to SEE someone show you the gear they work on, in progress, in context, in use.
Not just some static slideshow.

Hip hop /Urban has never championed the engineer until post facto. And how many engineers have graced the cover of any magazines that cover pop culture?
How many engineers get voted a hot bachelor in Essence???

Get real people.

Its a un-popular role to play, but many people are getting hip to it and now its in vogue.

I think he was doing the same thing I would do in that studio.

Every ten seconds look at all that nice ass gear lit up and chirping and start Geekin out!

And for the record (the Digi 00 land comment), he's right. There are more morons on this board with sh*tty protools setups than a little bit. REAL TALK. They don't respect recording techniques, their songs SUCK and they don't respect anybody thats making it, professionally or independantly. They are not going to learn anything until they admit they need help.

They are the REAL haters. Just like there are people who are PRETENDING to be professionals. These guys just sit around waiting for the opportunity to rag on the first person that IS professional. Sometimes I wish you had a vip section on this board, just so some of these guys couldn't chime in with their bullshit. Even IF I was excluded from it. I'd rather earn my way in, than see professionals insulted continuously over the dumbest shit. When Bruce Swedien posted, I said a prayer for him., simply because there more people waiting to pounce on that guy than not.


***

There has to be at least a few hundred people on this board who are just plain crazy, pyscho, and steal pictures from other sites, read up on gear, so they have something to talk about.

For once, I'm glad to know this guy's for real and this guy's legit.


Sam I wish you well, I only hope to have a tenth of the chances you have to mix on real equipment with real staff and real facilities.

Great record, great mix. I would have done the same thing, just not as good as yours

STOP THE MADNESS

Peace
Illumination

[rickrock305]

Originally Posted by Barznbeats1

digitranslator

f*ck that, its always been mad buggy


easiest and most reliable way to transfer from logic to pro tools is to bounce down all your tracks to a single audio files, with all tracks having the same start time.


Logic has a quick and easy way to do this. Under the File menu > Export > All Track To Audio Files.

This will bounce all your tracks (with all active plugins) to single audio files, all with the same start time, all in one step.

Just put all of them in a folder and burn that folder to a data disc. Then the mixer simply has to import all your audio files into pro tools and they'll all line up.

[computa]

Originally Posted by gdeusthewhizkid

Basically what i am asking is there a way to export my finished logic session complete with vocals and audio seperates so that someone who mixes with pro tools can easily open it up.... I heard there is a way to do this??

File menu > Export > All Track To Audio Files (turn off plug-ins)

All DAws, except PT, have this function. U can transfer & open files in any DAW with the swiftness

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by computa

File menu > Export > All Track To Audio Files (turn off plug-ins)

All DAws, except PT, have this function. U can transfer & open files in any DAW with the swiftness

No they don't, that's a Logic thing as far as i know .....

[Ken Lewis]

Originally Posted by gdeusthewhizkid

I am a big logic studio user. I do everything in it from the beat to the vocals. I understand a lot of mixers use pro tools. Is there a way when i got a logic session with the beats seperated and vocals on it to be one clean session so i can just place it on dvds and send it to a professional mixer.

Basically what i am asking is there a way to export my finished logic session complete with vocals and audio seperates so that someone who mixes with pro tools can easily open it up.... I heard there is a way to do this??

I mainly use Logic as well. My assistant usually does what your asking, so i'm not certain but i think its "EXPORT ALL TRACKS AS AUDIO".

Should be a single command which will turn everything into consolidated wav files. takes a little while, but should be that simple (i think)

I still do alot of mixing in Logic -Ken

[H-Rezz]

Originally Posted by Ken Lewis

I still do alot of mixing in Logic -Ken

Ken, did you ever sort out your dilema about the stability of using Logic as the front end to your P.Tools HD system ?

I personally feel Logic runs best on it's own, a new Mac Pro, Logic8 and nice outs like Aurora16 into your AWS would be killer, plus you have full PDC as opposed to using it as the front end to P.Tools . Most stable for me was Logic 6.4 and P.Tools 6.4. but no PDC unfortunately

[n-zo]

Hey Sam,when i started this thread i didnt know it would get such a big response..but im glad it did and im glad your here to share your knowledge.Welcome to Gearslutz Buddy....look foward to the next video

N-zo

[O'Ryan]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

Im not "hatin" Im just being real.

Lol Thats your favorite line.