kick reduction

[shephurd]

Hey.. im not so technical minded so i dont know the correct term for it sory..
Im playing with a sample that has a kick that dosnt go with the rest of the beat im doing, how could i reduce it? i know I proberly couldnt totaly eliminate it, but lowering it would help alot.. i dont want to kut it right out cause that split second has sounds i want to use for the melody..
any way i could do this?
I'm using ableton by the way...

thanks in advance for this (proberly dumb) question

[cynic]

use a high pass filter to cut out the low end, or use eq to make some cuts where the kick sits in the frequency range. it'll probably be 120hz and lower.

[shephurd]

cool man chers.. will look into dat!

[filterayok]

there are ways sometimes, to actually cut out the piece of kik audio, and then time stretch, or just replace with alternate audio chunks and crossfade. If for example it is just hitting during a sustained note, it may be possible to do. I couldnt tell you without hearing it tho.

[FBM]

Originally Posted by shephurd

Hey.. im not so technical minded so i dont know the correct term for it sory..
Im playing with a sample that has a kick that dosnt go with the rest of the beat im doing, how could i reduce it?

thanks in advance for this (proberly dumb) question

Hi, This is a good question and the answer is not a low cut, but use for example the SPL transient Designer or Sonnox Transient Modulator plugin. The Transient Modulator is used to weaken or emphasize transients in drumloops, individual drumtracks, bass etc. The low cut only let's you loose your low end.
Cheers Dvid

[beat you down]

forget about eq etc.
just chop it and replace it with something less disturbing from that same loop or record.

or go the other way around, this is what i usually do when sampling:
start with the less flexible part, which would be the sampled loop, then make the rest fit to the sample.

when sampling the restrictions are part of the challenge.
what's in your head might not always be possible.
i had this kid ask me how he could split a sampled loop into separate tracks for each instrument.

[cynic]

Originally Posted by beat you down

forget about eq etc.
just chop it and replace it with something less disturbing from that same loop or record.

or go the other way around, this is what i usually do when sampling:
start with the less flexible part, which would be the sampled loop, then make the rest fit to the sample.

when sampling the restrictions are part of the challenge.
what's in your head might not always be possible.
i had this kid ask me how he could split a sampled loop into separate tracks for each instrument.

melodyne 3 will probably do that

but good looking out on the chop/replace/fade idea as well. a technique i totally overlooked.

[FBM]

i had this kid ask me how he could split a sampled loop into separate tracks for each instrument. [/quote]by beat you down

And what was your answer?! "Yes this is possible when you use Recycle! It chops up a sampled DrumLoop in to it's component beats" But the solution is a Transient plugin!
Sonnox Plugins
Look at the TransMod.

Cheers Dvid

[lpuma]

Originally Posted by FBM

i had this kid ask me how he could split a sampled loop into separate tracks for each instrument.

And what was your answer?! "Yes this is possible when you use Recycle! It chops up a sampled DrumLoop in to it's component beats" But the solution is a Transient plugin!

Cheers Dvid[/quote]

no... >>>> "yes Ima filter the hell out your loop."

[FBM]

no... >>>> "yes Ima filter the hell out your loop."[/quote]
Hi lpuma,
Check the sonnox plugs and read what it say's on there website!!!
Better read my post well, because this quote you used is from "beat you down" and not from me
FBM! Cheers David

[lpuma]

Originally Posted by FBM

no... >>>> "yes Ima filter the hell out your loop."

Hi lpuma,
Check the sonnox plugs and read what it say's on there website!!!
Better read my post well, because this quote you used is from "beat you down" and not from me
FBM! Cheers David[/quote]

I tried several transient designers including the sonnox, the waves and the stillwell. nice tools... I luv filters. I filter my samples all the time, I filter my own melodies too, my drums... everything.... without multimode filters life would be sad...lol

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by FBM

...And what was your answer?!...

i asked if he was joking... he wasn't.
so i gave him a certain look and told him to read up on things.

[FBM]

Originally Posted by beat you down

i asked if he was joking... he wasn't.
so i gave him a certain look and told him to read up on things.

Oké All things clear!
Dvid

[beat you down]

but maybe i wasn't clear...
he didn't ask how to chop stuff.
he wanted to take the clean soloed bassline from a loop which had like drums, guitar etc... you would need the reels for that.

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by shephurd

...(proberly dumb)...

[Chaotic]

How is the kick drum panned?

I know back in the day, panning the drums pretty hard, was done often. If thats the case, remove the kick from which ever side is panned, then copy and paste that instance from the opposite side.

[filterayok]

i would think that a plugin aint gonna help... Post the audio, i'll see if i can surgically remove it for you ...

I really think its the only way, filtering is gonna ruin your sample, and i'm not sure how a transient designers gonna help.