How Do Producers Like Storch Who Use A Motif Track?

[scorpio01169]

to the op, i don't know if you know this but if you dig deeper into your motif, you can separate each instrument to it's own output in a drum track, meaning kick,snare,hats and all without having to solo all of them. i believe the motif has 6 outputs, so you only have to solo everything but six...if you're using more than six instruments in a drum track. it's called Drum voice. it's almost the same a zones, but once you find this function and get the hang of using it life will be easier for you and you wont have do many recording passes.

[ninjasoards]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

As far as Logic is concerned the easiest way to track in a beat is to:

1. Freeze every track
2. Hit space bar, each track will bounce in one pass
3. Import the freeze files into the DAW of your choice

I stand corrected. This is the old school method, which usually works, but can cause clicks and pops when importing into 24 bit programs. You can no longer set the freeze file bit depth or this would still work 100% of the time.

The new way is to File>Export All Tracks as Audio Files or Shift-Command- E. Which is much better because you can choose the file type and bit depth and it also names your tracks for you.

and yes, this only works with software instruments

[CharlesD]

SMPTE - solo each track!

[illynoise]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

I stand corrected. This is the old school method, which usually works, but can cause clicks and pops when importing into 24 bit programs. You can no longer set the freeze file bit depth or this would still work 100% of the time.

The new way is to File>Export All Tracks as Audio Files or Shift-Command- E. Which is much better because you can choose the file type and bit depth and it also names your tracks for you.

and yes, this only works with software instruments

I wish freeze worked in the most "logical" way!

When you export tracks you do not retain effects. Also with export tracks, if you have to instantiate another instrument if you want to separate your kiks snares hihats, etc....

Export tracks is good if you are sending to someone who can mix your tracks great, but if you are good at mixing your own beats, I generally choose to bounce each track with effects.

But the OP was talking about midi and motif, I just happened to do this last night and doing it the "tetris" way I put about 10 beats in an hour, which I think is pretty fast!

I would like to see a tutorial on the way some of the other posters are talking about also!

[scorpio01169]

Originally Posted by Tempest19

So it's only recently that I've started using this approach of making a 'beat' first and then working on the 'song' before I just recorded in the typical sense with real instruments.

Ok so when composing a beat using the sequencer on yamaha motif how do the big name producers have their beats tracked?

Is it just a case of mutting all the tracks and letting the kick for example play through from output 1 and recording it into protools, then onto the next instrument?

This is the only method I can think of but its taking a lot of time.

I'm also having trouble with tempos, I cant figure out how to sync the motif and protools clocks. So everything I record Im having to pull it back into time on the protools session.

Any tips or know how from the big names to speed up this process??

Thanks,

Chris

really there is no reason, no reason at all that you would have to do things single track by track. even on a drum track you can make the kick output 1, snare output 2, hat output 3, and so on. for real man the manual tells you how to do it. i learned early that if you don't dig into what your equipment can do then you just spent all that money for nothing...those features that you will read in the manual are what you paid for.

[ninjasoards]

Originally Posted by illynoise

When you export tracks you do not retain effects.

Yes you do.

Originally Posted by illynoise

Also with export tracks, if you have to instantiate another instrument if you want to separate your kiks snares hihats, etc....

True.

[Hot Lipps]

Originally Posted by riteup3

[OT]

call me old school
i play my motif in realtime into nuendo via a good DI box
i like this way of working much better
forces me to play tight - no midi editing allowed once the audio is in the box
workflow is a tad slower but i my music has never sounded so good - or rather ive never felt that good about it
[/OT]

ron

+1 on that. I play all my instruments straight thru the song. I use no loops (EXCEPT FOR DRUMS). I started doing this about 6 months ago and it has improved my playing A LOT.

The feel is so much more organic and natural. What ever I put in the mpc I just use that to get all the ideas of the song down. I look at that phase as sort of the writing phase. Kinda how back in the days dudes would get the pencil write music on paper. After that I go into recording what I wrote how a band might do it. A little rehursing then recording takes.

[scorpio01169]

OK i made this video today just for you guys now i know the keyboard in question is the Motif...but i have a triton, but the motif does the same thing. sorry about any noise in the background, but i have a one month old and she doesn't understand being quiet yet

YouTube - Korg Triton drum editing

[Teo Macero]

tip:
Get NI-Battery
you can route everything individually to separate Pro Tools (or Logic) audio tracks and it beats the hell outta friggin around with your Motif...

[riteup3]

Originally Posted by Hot Lipps

+1 on that. I play all my instruments straight thru the song. I use no loops (EXCEPT FOR DRUMS). I started doing this about 6 months ago and it has improved my playing A LOT.

The feel is so much more organic and natural. What ever I put in the mpc I just use that to get all the ideas of the song down. I look at that phase as sort of the writing phase. Kinda how back in the days dudes would get the pencil write music on paper. After that I go into recording what I wrote how a band might do it. A little rehursing then recording takes.

You're becoming a better musician in the process.
This method helps fighting the quantize button syndrome too, let the music breathe and be alive, it makes such a difference (well depends on the genre, i would not owrk like that to make a dance track).

[illynoise]

Originally Posted by ninjasoards

Yes you do.

True.

Fill me in, I just tried it again, and it's just processing files. Is there a setting that I'm missing?