ADAM A7 vs Event SP8 for hip hop

[1ManBand]

sorry if this has been discussed already.. my question is more specific. Im looking to add a 3rd set to go with my mixcubes and my hs50's. I also have a sub so dont take the low end into consideration. what has the most detailed or natural high frequency range? it seems like the hs50's have a grainy small blury high end.. what would u get out of those 2? or am i just an idiot and the hs50's are good up high and i should learn how to use them?

[T. Gundersen]

ADAM A7's are good for high-midrange and high end, but if you already for the HS50's I'd say the only thing I could see you missing in your current setup is low end management. I don't like the Events at all. They do have low end but I much prefer the KRK VXT8's for low end. Not sure if they're in the same pricerange though. Best thing is go get your listener on at the local dealer though, because monitors is such a subjective thing, people do really have different ears.

[Igotsoul4u]

I have a pair of A7's and they are pretty great 100hz and up. Very detailed but they have a pretty small sweet spot. I find my self getting annoyed with people sitting anywhere outside the sweetspot because they are always making comments and then I tell them to sit where I'm sitting. The response is usually "ohhh. Yeah. My bad." The low end isn't to useful.

[d1rtynyc]

+1 on the KRK VXT8's.
I think the Adam's won't have enough bass & the Event's are good, but the KRK's are better.

[1ManBand]

wasnt even considering those.. i'll look into it.. thx

[The_Phoenix]

I love and use both..

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by T. Gundersen

ADAM A7's are good for high-midrange and high end, but if you already for the HS50's I'd say the only thing I could see you missing in your current setup is low end management. I don't like the Events at all. They do have low end but I much prefer the KRK VXT8's for low end. Not sure if they're in the same pricerange though. Best thing is go get your listener on at the local dealer though, because monitors is such a subjective thing, people do really have different ears.

IMHO, the VXT8's are in the same boat as the BX8's in regards to having a very bright treble range. They do have good bass extension, and they are pretty good sounding monitors, which can be either a good thing or a bad thing, depending on what you are using them for. At the end of the day though, they just ended up fatiguing my ears a lil too much, so they weren't for me. I actually prefer the old V8's over them.

Adam A7's are definitely the way to go if you are looking for a more detailed, and more intelligible treble range. Also, for a monitor of the A7's size, it also has great low end response (without sounding over hyped)... even though we aren't taking low end into consideration here. Just keep in mind that they are best suited for critical listening. If you want something that sounds more sweet for normal listening use, the Dyn BM's fit the bill nicely.

I havent used or heard that particular Event model, so I dont really have any insight to offer on those.

[akjl4]

+1 event sp8s very revealing and easy on the ears with awesome lowend!

[1ManBand]

thx petty cash.. exactly what i wanted..

[UnMix Studio]

Originally Posted by Igotsoul4u

I have a pair of A7's and they are pretty great 100hz and up. Very detailed but they have a pretty small sweet spot. I find my self getting annoyed with people sitting anywhere outside the sweetspot because they are always making comments and then I tell them to sit where I'm sitting. The response is usually "ohhh. Yeah. My bad." The low end isn't to useful.

Dude, the sweet spot is greats on those things. Just move your monitors around. Check your positions. That little thing has a amazing stereo image. Had an issue with placement and hearing. I moved the monitor just 8 inches back and it gave me what I wanted

[otarb]

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[1ManBand]

im gonna get the events.. just cuz ken lewis has some. hahaha.. seriously though.

[Micah Tolentino]

BM5a's are what I use. Yes even for hip hop and without a sub. I can effectively hear down to about 30 Hz or so. You can add a sub if you wanna impress clients, but the BM's deliver a nice silky top end and I can mix for 12+ hours without fatigue. The Events to me are fatiguing and I cant stand listening to them for more than a couple of hours. The old V8's were great... Im thinking they are actually better than the new ones. Very balanced low end and didn't hype things up.

Its really up to you. Just check in the car a lot and on small cans you'll be good to go..

[AnAverageJoe]

I would go with the SP8s if I was creating a hip hop beat because the low end and the power of the SP8 to me just don't touch the A7s

[feyshay]

Originally Posted by AnAverageJoe

I would go with the SP8s if I was creating a hip hop beat because the low end and the power of the SP8 to me just don't touch the A7s

Huh? Do the beginning and the end not match?
Both are fine. I'd go with the Events, but that is just preference.

[Ken Lewis]

Originally Posted by Micah Tolentino

The Events to me are fatiguing and I cant stand listening to them for more than a couple of hours. The old V8's were great... Im thinking they are actually better than the new ones. Very balanced low end and didn't hype things up.

Interesting. I thought the old V8's were some of the worst sounding speakers on the market the last time i tried them and i'm pretty sure they were the old ones. did an extensive listening session in the speaker room at B&H in NYC. the V6's and V8's i truly thought were garbage. though actually i like the E series from KRK. Different strokes i suppose.

I also liked the JBL nearfields and the Event's. I bought the Event's (20/20 bass) at the time, i thought as a stop gap until i could afford something better, then i fell in love with them. The first two albums i mixed on them, i went to the mastering sessions up at Sterling just to see how much my speakers were lying to me and was very pleasantly surprised to hear how well my mixes translated and how much it sounded like my mix. after that i kept them. Now i mix with SP8's and still have my 20/20's.

you know, in the end, it all comes down to learning your speakers and what they are and are not telling you, and referncing on multiple sets of speaker. If you are a mixer and only mixing on one pair of speakers, you are not a mixer.

[feyshay]

No way are the Event ASP8's fatiguing. I don't get that at all. Of course, every man is entitled to his opinion. I use them over JBL 4238's preferably (not exclusively) because of the low fatigue.

[CWsounds]

we really should combine this thread with the other monitor thread on the board now. until then i'll copy the post i had made about timbaland's studio and the near field he uses as a rebuttal to ken's bashing of the KRK's... I don't have the event or krk's but this makes for an interesting discussion:

(from the other monitor thread):

Originally Posted by smccarthy945

I have a few different monitors (KRK Rokit 8's, Events, V8's). Believe it or not, for hip hop, I always use the KRK RP8's even though they are cheapest. I find them to be the clearest and most accurate on the high and low end. Everything I mix on those sounds good in every system I play it on. Just my two cents.

Funny that you mentioned those... I've seen the KRK 8 inches in quite a few recent timbaland studio vids on youtube. He had them in his main control room in his VA studio here.. (along with some mains and NS10's though)

YouTube - Timbaland Studio Tour

and on his mobile studio in the crappy music video for 'give it to me'

YouTube - Timbaland - Give It To Me OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO

Must be something about those he likes if could have any kind of monitoring he wanted and he has those.. I didn't know of those were the RP8s or the V8's though, Just couldn't miss that yellow cone. But then again, his last album was crap sonically speaking. Clipping everywhere... Maybe thats why?

[tWoKp.]

i read somewhere that the Event TR-8 uses the same components as the older Event 20/20 Bas? so is the tr8 basically a 20/20 bas? or does it sound the same? i have the yamaha hs50m and my mixes translates well to other systems but i also want a second pair with an 8" woofer just so i could check the low low.

if the tr-8's sounds like the event 20/20 then i'll prob get 'em as my 2nd reference, if not i'll prob get the bigger yamaha hs80m or maybe any other suggestions?

[tWoKp.]

Originally Posted by CWsounds

Must be something about those he likes if could have any kind of monitoring he wanted and he has those.. I didn't know of those were the RP8s or the V8's though, Just couldn't miss that yellow cone. But then again, his last album was crap sonically speaking. Clipping everywhere... Maybe thats why?

timbo's using the v8's but the thing is, he uses 'em to make music i dont know about mixing tho

[Micah Tolentino]

Originally Posted by Ken Lewis

Interesting. I thought the old V8's were some of the worst sounding speakers on the market the last time i tried them and i'm pretty sure they were the old ones. did an extensive listening session in the speaker room at B&H in NYC. the V6's and V8's i truly thought were garbage. though actually i like the E series from KRK. Different strokes i suppose.

I also liked the JBL nearfields and the Event's. I bought the Event's (20/20 bass) at the time, i thought as a stop gap until i could afford something better, then i fell in love with them. The first two albums i mixed on them, i went to the mastering sessions up at Sterling just to see how much my speakers were lying to me and was very pleasantly surprised to hear how well my mixes translated and how much it sounded like my mix. after that i kept them. Now i mix with SP8's and still have my 20/20's.

you know, in the end, it all comes down to learning your speakers and what they are and are not telling you, and referncing on multiple sets of speaker. If you are a mixer and only mixing on one pair of speakers, you are not a mixer.

quite true.. you really gotta get to know your speakers. I think the old v8's were popular for hip hop because of the tight low end they give. No guessing there, imo that was the best thing about those speakers. The uppermids was harder to mix on and caused ear fatigue.

The SP8's in my opinion are great listening speakers.. The thing is it sounds too good, and makes everything shiny. I dont think I want that in a speaker.

I think the OP will do fine with a some used v8's along with his hs50's. Try considering the bm5a or 6a. Those are real contenders if you are even considering the a7.