commodore 64

[tonyscarbones]

i found one in my uncles garage

can i do anything with it as far as production like run samples thru it?

there's a bunch of disks with games so i can sample off those but i know it's 8 or 12 bit right so is there a way to run samples thru it to give em that sound?

[drBill]

LOL Those things are pre midi. Pre-historic, before the age of man. Seriously, sampling wouldn't even have been invented yet for many more years.

[dissolva]

the Commodore 64 generates sounds from an internal SID chip. sampling sounds from games on it is pretty common. Just be sure to clear them if you use them, you don't want to end up like Lil' Flip (paying $150K for infringing on a Pac-Man sample)!

I think it would probably be easier to run an emulator on your computer and sample that rather than f**k around with one of the old machines. Unless "vintage" is your thing... ;)

[nukmusic]

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

LMAO

[HoPMiX]

haha yes

LOAD"$",8,1

[sleeper1400]

oh snap!!!!!!!!

the good old com64!

there are some "low-fi" peeps around like beck, the beastie boys, air and etc....you know ,alternative cats the use them for accents and etc.

(i wouldn't be surprised if missy or timbland had some laying around)


i have been thinking about getting one just to mess around with.
just because something is old. doesnt make it crap

unless its an HR-16..LOL (jk, ANYTHING CAN BE USEFUL)

[cynic]

MIDIbox SID

MIDIbox SID is a non-commercial & "DIY-only" project. Beside of the common SID functions (three oscillators, triangle/saw/pulse/noise and mixed waveforms, independent envelope generators for the amplitudes, sync & ringmodulation, 12db multistate low/band/highpass/notch filter) it features four different software based synthesizer engine implementations:

[drBill]

Originally Posted by tonyscarbones

i know it's 8 or 12 bit right so is there a way to run samples thru it to give em that sound?

Guys, I think he's asking if it's got some sort of sampler you can load into it to sample with. It's been a long, long time, but I am not aware of any sampler programs for the C64. Like someone said, check out an emulator or Emax.

[tonyscarbones]

hahaha

i don't really care about sampling old game songs

i wanna put a sample into it and give it the 8-bit sound thru the SID chip then put it into my mpc

can i do that?

[Sam an huel]

LOL Those things are pre midi.

They were, In 2008 they got it.
If you are a Prophet64 user and got the Firestarter midi interface you can remote the virtual instruments with control changes, you can dump your presets or songs via midi...etc.
http://www.prophet64.com/

firestARTer - PROPHET64-CARTRIDGE MIDI-INTERFACE

Your should Look at the Mssiah project, evolution of prophet64:
MSSIAH

It will includes a the Wave player, and the cartridge as built in midi in, so you can dump samples directly.

I suggest you to do this mod before because it really cleans up the backround noise : :: Commodore C64 Modifications ::

Nice to read:
PROPHET64 Userforum

[sonicdefault]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

for a moment, I was in a trance




-SD

[Seth]

me too.

[PettyCash]

Same here, what's up with that?.... lol

[dissolva]

Originally Posted by tonyscarbones

i don't really care about sampling old game songs

i wanna put a sample into it and give it the 8-bit sound thru the SID chip then put it into my mpc

Thought u might've been on a Timbaland trip. He got sued for using a Commodore 64 SID tune on Nelly Furtado's Loose. SID chip is a sound generator only. To do digital audio you've got to find other hardware.

Originally Posted by cynic

MIDIbox SID

ahaha. that rules!

[hyde105]

If you're looking for the sounds that the SID produces;



odosynths ==> 38911Bytes (donation ware)

It sounds really good, I've been using Odo synths quite a bit now.


If you're looking for adding some dirtiness to your productions and samples... Akai S-950!

I don't know where you live, but in the Netherlands the 950's are getting really cheap (a good working model, near mint condition..... around 250$)

[mintyfreshbeats]

SidStation website

These are pretty dope. I saw one in Timbaland's studio last time I was there.


(just kidding...I saw it on tv in Timbaland's studio )

[thx1138]

There was a sound digitizer for the C64, but don't ask me which manufacturer. It was extremely lo-fi (around 4 Bit and less than a second of sampling). So it wouldn't be totally impossible to do something with it.

I also had a sequencer program which utilized the SID-chip, again I can't remember the name of that one either. Some C64 geek will probably know, though.

[cynic]

i used to have a sidstation.....sold it. i use this instead now. it's an ok approximation :)

reFX - quadraSID summary

easier to program too.

[Shostakovich]

You could use an old cassette from a Commodore 64. They sound really nice. I gave one to a girl once as a joke. She fell in love... and then I broke her heart... This is bringing back memories of writing programs in basic, making random lo-res colors flash across the screen. The peak of my programming was using massive amounts of 'peek' and 'poke' commands, what tediousness!


10 Pr#2
20 Home
30 goto 10
40 end

I think that's Apple....logo was fun too...how about fortran?

[mstrom]

Has any one tested these ?

HardSID - The SID 6581/8580 synthesizer

I would be interested in any comments.

[mintyfreshbeats]

Originally Posted by cynic

i used to have a sidstation.....sold it. i use this instead now. it's an ok approximation :)

reFX - quadraSID summary

easier to program too.

True that, I use quadraSid as well. Cynic, tell me though, how does the quadraSID compare to the sidstation?

[cynic]

Originally Posted by mintyfreshbeats

True that, I use quadraSid as well. Cynic, tell me though, how does the quadraSID compare to the sidstation?

easier to program, fits into my workflow better, cheaper, no noise i have to gate out...

as far as the sound, similar and not different enough to justify the purchase of a sidstation.

i bought my sid for $500 or so, sold for $700 or so. i have no regrets.

[terrytee]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

yes am very excited too

[Johnny T]

There was definitely sound digitizer hardware available for the c64 back in the day. I knew someone who owned one, but have no idea what brand/model it was. (I would have been 7 years old at the time). I have a disk with a sampled song on it. Takes about 5 minutes to load, plays for 3 or 4 seconds, then gives you an out-of-memory error.

As far as I know, the SID was not designed to reproduce sampled audio, but crafty programmers exploited a hardware bug and made it possible. Upon changing the main volume (which was a 4-bit value), a high frequency click noise would occur, and the frequency of this click was determined by the change of this 4-bit register. So you're limited to 4-bit sampling, pretty lo-fi.

I managed to get my hands on a SidStation a few years ago. Sounds great, but it's very noisy (but apparently not as noisy as a SID chip sitting inside a c64). The SID is in numerous commercial tunes, eg Zombie Nation, Ayo Technology... Its sound is unique and instantly recognizable.

[Sam an huel]

There was definitely sound digitizer hardware available for the c64 back in the day. I knew someone who owned one, but have no idea what brand/model it was.

Have a look here, few of them:
Oldschool computers & vintage synths for the future !

[BOO BLADES]

Originally Posted by HoPMiX

haha yes

LOAD"$",8,1

that is funny my dude...i forgot all bout that load"$" shit...i told my brother and he fell out laughing...i think i had every game that came out for that joint (or rather a copy)...remember punching a hole on the other side of a single sided disk to copy a game on both sides of the floppy?...i think we just gave up our ages.


Brainwave Records - Hot Ass Hip Hop For The Streets

[kriscain]

another quadra sid user here.
it's real fun getting experimental with it.

[HoPMiX]

Originally Posted by BOO BLADES

that is funny my dude...i forgot all bout that load"$" shit...i told my brother and he fell out laughing...i think i had every game that came out for that joint (or rather a copy)...remember punching a hole on the other side of a single sided disk to copy a game on both sides of the floppy?...i think we just gave up our ages.


Brainwave Records - Hot Ass Hip Hop For The Streets

lol...
hell yeah. i was a master at tht shit..
street sports football and basketball was my shit..
and magic vs bird..

[thedreampolice]

"LOL Those things are pre midi"

Actually my first sequencer in the 80s was a c64. They had midi for a long time!