best vsti's for r&b and hip hop

[djclueveli]

in your opinion, what is the best vsti(s) for producing r&b and hip hop that can match sounds (good quality) from a keyboard.

[MrMartinezBodega]

a good all around one is steinberg hypersonic 2. It's a decent software substitute for a triton/motif/fantom.

[djclueveli]

is the sound quality from vsti's like hypersonic2 as good as keyboards?

[ONE LUV]

i really love hypersonic 2! the orchestral stuff is great and doesn´t need much more processing. in my opinion those natural sounds are good in general in hypersonic!

[Barznbeats1]

Arturia cs80v
Digidesign Hybrid

[kojo]

Korg M1
Kontakt 3
Plugsound Pro

[MYAMS]

if u let us know specifically what type of sound ur looking for we can be of more help. If you want software that sounds like a fantom or motif...

plugsound pro for the instruments
gladiator for the synths

or

nexus with expansion packs

Do these sound "better than keyboards"- if u are tracking a keyboard with low end pres and converters software synths are going to sound much better (bigger and have more presence), if tracks properly- its all opinion.

Most analog synths, as well as some digital hardware ones (particularly the virus t.i. which sounds better than most analog because of its great anolog converters), sound much better than motifs, fantoms, as well as the software mentioned above.

In reality, u can make beats with just about anything on the planet, so its up to u to choose your weapon. I would choose the plugsound gladiator combo- they sound really clean and cheesy which is probably what ur going for. Nexus is pretty bad low quality samples covered with fx.

[djclueveli]

i'm confused about this cause i always wondered if it makes a different to change the project settings to 24 bit when working with vsti's. If you change the project to 24bit, does it make the vsti sound better. There are actually 2 types of vsti's that i'm talking about (sampled based, and synths like pro-53) so my question applies to both type of vsti's

[djclueveli]

wow thaks for that. Yea i bought nexus a while back and sold it cause i hated their sounds. I was just loaded with gallons of reverb to cover up the wack low quality sounds. I'm not really looking for a specific sound. I'm just looking for vsti's that can give me similar sounds to what u hear on the radio.

[cynic]

this question and way of thinking is just going to lead you into a cookie cutter, boring ass sound if you follow the motif/triton/fantom route.

explore, download demos, find your own sound. you're already boxing yourself in...

go read the different reviews here: KVR: Virtual Instruments, Virtual Effects, VST Plugins, Audio Units (AU), DirectX (DX), Universal Binary Compatibility - Audio Plugin News, Reviews and Community

there are tons of great synths out now that have excellent sound quality.

shit, maybe you'll stumble on something and people will be asking "damn how do you get his sound?"...

[The kosmos]

Originally Posted by djclueveli

i'm confused about this cause i always wondered if it makes a different to change the project settings to 24 bit when working with vsti's. If you change the project to 24bit, does it make the vsti sound better. There are actually 2 types of vsti's that i'm talking about (sampled based, and synths like pro-53) so my question applies to both type of vsti's

What about 32-bit float?

[djclueveli]

preciate the link cynic.

[dhiltonlittle]

i really like all of arturia's stuff. and digi's free plugin xpand is super.

[jikkyboy11]

For RnB and Hip Hop:
Halion One: Comes with Cubase 4.
Atmosphere and Trilogy: Both are top notch.
Xpand: Digi's Hypersonic 2.
Hypersonic 2: If you can find one. I got mine from an academic store.
Reason 4: All in one solution.
Kontakt 3: Great sampler that can be expanded.
Battery 3: All drums.
PoiZone: I liked the demo. It's on my to buy this week.
Sylenth 1: Same as above. Next payday purchase.

Off Topic: The Media Bay/Soundframe in CB4 is the shit!

[cynic]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

Off Topic: The Media Bay/Soundframe in CB4 is the shit!

no shit.....it's about time steinberg got that right.

[Unkle Fred]

IK Stuff is good, too. Easy to use... Sonik Synth 2, and SampleMoog. Good for RnB.

[smoke]

I shouldn't even say anything, but i've got a sleeper.

Virtual String Machine has dope sounds. I love it. No one ever mentions it.

[The kosmos]

What's gud 4 bass sounds ?

[SadLuck]

Originally Posted by The kosmos

What's gud 4 bass sounds ?

Trilogy

[SadLuck]

Originally Posted by smoke

Virtual String Machine has dope sounds. I love it. No one ever mentions it.

Probably cos it's pretty new... but I agree, nice one!

[FULL-DUPLEX]

Trilogy...

[jikkyboy11]

Originally Posted by cynic

no shit.....it's about time steinberg got that right.

Man who u telling. Lol and it happened just as N.I. Kore came out, which does a similar thing, but Media Bay goes so much deeper.

And Trilogy is great for bass.

[Synthy08]

Originally Posted by jikkyboy11

Man who u telling. Lol and it happened just as N.I. Kore came out, which does a similar thing, but Media Bay goes so much deeper.

And Trilogy is great for bass.

I cant vibe with the trilogy...something about it just doesnt sound right....i use Bass from reason 4 or my Minimoog VST.....or my friend will come & play live bass 4 me.

[Beatstreet]

I mix software with a bit of hardware.

Main workstation is my Yamaha Motif XS. Stock it with some ram and get the analog synths samples/programs from easysound.de. Really makes the Motif shine.
I just got the new Access Virus Snow, which is basically a half TI. Sounds great and will get a lot of use I am sure.
The best thing for me is that both instruments integrate so well with Cubase 4 which is my sequencer of choice.

Re software plugs, my main ones are Kontakt 3, Spectrasonics RMX with Nine volt audio packs, and Nexus with most expansions installed. A lot of the Nexus presets sounds great with Urban tracks once you turn down the reverb and lowcut the shit.

For drum programming I use GURU. I LOVE that Plug.
It has MPC swing presets, a brilliant interface for step programming, a cool and easy layer function and best of all, lighting fast drum sound audition while playing your pattern.

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by djclueveli

i'm confused about this cause i always wondered if it makes a different to change the project settings to 24 bit when working with vsti's. If you change the project to 24bit, does it make the vsti sound better. There are actually 2 types of vsti's that i'm talking about (sampled based, and synths like pro-53) so my question applies to both type of vsti's

Depends on the instrument as to what it's samples/processing works at...

...but there's no reason to work at 16b anymore. Any further processing you do on your instruments will work better at 24b, as will ITB mixing, any vocal or instrument tracking, etc.

[djclueveli]

i thanks for all of your responses. I don't really ever track any instruments because i really just for INB for now and dont wanna waste my time trying to track when i dont have the right equipment for it (top of the line preamps) so i insert a vsti and then render it so that's why i was wondering about the 24bit thing cause i didnt know if the sounds that are sample are 16-bit to begin with. I know almost all my Drumkit samples are 16-bit so does it make sense to work with 24bit even when everything like samples, vsti (i'm guessing) are in 16bit?

[Kainer]

imo hypersonic sounds are bad, i would prefer yellow tools independece by far.

trilogy for bass

and battery3 or bfd for drums.

[phillysoulman]

Trilogy
Xpand
Groove Agent
The Grand
Velvet
CS 80
Arturia Moog
Atmosphere

[sleeper1400]

reason 3 or 4 hands down, terrific program.

stay away from triton stuff, played out.

just dick with stuff ya know?

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by sleeper1400

reason 3 or 4 hands down, terrific program.

stay away from triton stuff, played out.

just dick with stuff ya know?

How is the Triton "played out"?
Explain please