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Old 24th September 2008, 02:02 PM   #31
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I realize it may seem that way sometimes but there still lots out there.

Am sure someone will on this forum will say that there all well know already but to be honest only a fool would be so arrogant as to think they know it all. Mistake 1 is people often only check the obvious genres such as soul & funk.

Anyway nobody in the world has all the records out there. Theres just simply to many fields of music to chose from. But i guess the main problem is people often only go for the type of break that all you really needed to do is loop it up and your away. Certainly if you want good full sounds the list is endless.

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If you wanna change up some well known breaks just try sampling shit at different EQs or peak levels it will totally change the sound up.
Or maby learn how to play somthing..and stop sampling!!hummm..that would be to hard!!
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Or maby learn how to play somthing..and stop sampling!!hummm..that would be to hard!!
or maybe find something else to advert... and stop commenting on sampling threads... that would be too hard?

dude... it's getting old, we ALL know by now what your view on sampling is.
go play some guitar or something cause obviously these boards are not for you.

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Old 24th September 2008, 02:57 PM   #33
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you sampled "show'm watcha got"... that would be 70's stuff or do you really think that horn and loop was originally done by just blaze?

but... the whole purpose of sampling 70's stuff is THE SOUND!

sampling post 90 something stuff would be totally NOT interesting especially sampling hip hop or r+b cause most of that stuff contains samples or was done with modules anyway. what's the use? i'm curious.
Of course I know that Just Blaze didn't originate that. The purpose was to make a mixtape that is different from the mixtapes that are currently out where all cats do is rap over industry beats. Instead, we just switched it up a bit. Its a mixtape concept. You don't have to like it. Is that the only track you heard, or did you just skim through looking for a song with a sample to prove your point?
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Old 24th September 2008, 02:59 PM   #34
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Old 24th September 2008, 03:08 PM   #35
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sampling post 90 something stuff would be totally NOT interesting especially sampling hip hop or r+b cause most of that stuff contains samples or was done with modules anyway. what's the use? i'm curious.
BYD, are you talking about sampling any genre post 90's? If so I disagree 100%.

Or are you talking about sampling hip hop only post 90's? If that's the case then I would ask, why would anyone sample a hip hop song for another hip hop song?

I'm confused here.
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Of course I know that Just Blaze didn't originate that. The purpose was to make a mixtape that is different from the mixtapes that are currently out where all cats do is rap over industry beats. Instead, we just switched it up a bit. Its a mixtape concept. You don't have to like it. Is that the only track you heard, or did you just skim through looking for a song with a sample to prove your point?
nah, for a mixtape it's cool but i was just curious what type of stuff you'd sampled since you was like it's all post 2000 stuff.
i thought you'd have sampled non hip hop non r+b stuff.
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BYD, are you talking about sampling any genre post 90's? If so I disagree 100%.

Or are you talking about sampling hip hop only post 90's? If that's the case then I would ask, why would anyone sample a hip hop song for another hip hop song?

I'm confused here.
don't be it's just a personal opinion to start with... and...
i'm talking about stuff that could be recreated in a bedroom studio so yeah mostly hip hop and r+b.

don't ask me why anybody would cause i wouldn't sample any other hip hop track. hunt down the original i would say and sample THAT.
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Old 24th September 2008, 03:23 PM   #39
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There's no way to run out of samples. Hell, just checking the rare groove sites for obscure regional acts ("Florida Funk" etc.) can give you some less common sounds to use, much less going international and snagging some Polish funk (it exists), German soul (ditto), et cetera. There has always been a great deal more music produced than the common listening public was ever aware of. It's just not possible to have heard every record out there, even if you limit yourself to a given era.

And, not to bash sampling, which has its musical place, but there's always the option of learning from what you wanted to sample and creating your own sounds from that inspiration. Musically, a lot of what gets sampled isn't that hard to suss out: pentatonic scales, some syncopation, a few 7th or 9th chords (if that), on down the line. This is especially true when you're talking about samples that are a few seconds long (as opposed to Puffy's whole-song-using ass). When you get to the level of seriously chopping up and re-arranging your samples, you really aren't that far from the point of just making your own stuff from scratch. You have to understand the music really well to chop it up effectively, and once you understand the music, know why it works and how, you can start to play it.
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Old 24th September 2008, 03:29 PM   #40
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Or maby learn how to play somthing..and stop sampling!!hummm..that would be to hard!!

Hummmmmmm. I can rock the Clarinet, sax & it's been alleged that am semi skilled at the drums & a spot of piano...

BTW i don't sample that often these days, not because i think it unmusical on the contrary i feel the sampler is one the greatest instruments ever made, it's manly due to sample clearance.

Anyway whats with the beef against sampling, are you bitter no ones sampled you?




P.S. to any out there who thinks sampling is dead remember this, at least once a year as there is always a platinum recorded or 2 to prove you wrong.
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There's no way to run out of samples. Hell, just checking the rare groove sites for obscure regional acts ("Florida Funk" etc.) can give you some less common sounds to use, much less going international and snagging some Polish funk (it exists), German soul (ditto), et cetera. There has always been a great deal more music produced than the common listening public was ever aware of. It's just not possible to have heard every record out there, even if you limit yourself to a given era.

And, not to bash sampling, which has its musical place, but there's always the option of learning from what you wanted to sample and creating your own sounds from that inspiration. Musically, a lot of what gets sampled isn't that hard to suss out: pentatonic scales, some syncopation, a few 7th or 9th chords (if that), on down the line. This is especially true when you're talking about samples that are a few seconds long (as opposed to Puffy's whole-song-using ass). When you get to the level of seriously chopping up and re-arranging your samples, you really aren't that far from the point of just making your own stuff from scratch. You have to understand the music really well to chop it up effectively, and once you understand the music, know why it works and how, you can start to play it.
Excellent If you are thinking there is nothing left to sample perhaps you are either in a creative rut or are looking in all the wrong places.
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Old 24th September 2008, 05:20 PM   #42
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I think this is endless, just think all the foreign films and foreign artists..
The same pieces get sampled over and over because sites like the-breaks and alike and the me-too guys that check them.
Those sites are fine for what they are meant but people should dig into some real crates not into those sampled-songs lists
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Old 24th September 2008, 06:07 PM   #43
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I'm still trying to figure out why people spend so much time trying to find a "good" Amen Brother sample...that ain't the hardest beat in the world to duplicate, folks. Hell, half of the funk drummers recording in that time period were playing some variation of that beat on the regular, but folks act like it's some singular rhythm never seen before or since.
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Old 24th September 2008, 08:34 PM   #44
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I think the way how technology is comming out , its better for sampling / it does have its pros of cons ...... You have hardware/Software plugins etc ... to flip the sample change its tune ..... chop ..... do what ever you want .....
JUST ADD YOUR FLAVOR AND TOPPING >>>>> THEN COOK IT WAAALAHH ...
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Old 25th September 2008, 08:05 PM   #45
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Bad news guys. This news story is from 1998, so I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed by now. Nation's Rappers Down to Last Two Samples
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Old 25th September 2008, 08:47 PM   #46
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Or maby learn how to play somthing..and stop sampling!!hummm..that would be to hard!!
why all the negativity? every time I come across one of this guy's (or girl's) posts, it is extremely bitter.

anyway, since you have already learned how to play your instruments, maybe now you can learn how to spell correctly.
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Bad news guys. This news story is from 1998, so I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed by now. Nation's Rappers Down to Last Two Samples
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on a related note, Im going to stop writing lyrics because there's no words left. I only use words from the seventies and earlier, but I might have to start using newer ones.
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...I only use words from the seventies...
that would be the shit.
using like strictly 70's slang.
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on a related note, Im going to stop writing lyrics because there's no words left. I only use words from the seventies and earlier, but I might have to start using newer ones.
I seriously doubt that. If that were the case, I'm sure that news article would've mentioned it. Even if you *did* run out of original words, you could just start using another language.
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OMG IS THERE SAMPLES LEFT!!!



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on a related note, Im going to stop writing lyrics because there's no words left. I only use words from the seventies and earlier, but I might have to start using newer ones.

I believe I'm getting the humour here...i've not often been accused of having a great sense of humour.

Anyway, what's the deal with all the restrictions on sampling. Ex: I only sample from sixties and seventies, etc.

What the **** ever....I'll sample anything and everything. I sample new RAp and R&B if there is a sound I want. I'll sample monks if I feel like. There are too many genres not really explored yet in sampling to even fix my mouth to say "are there any more samples left?" I mean seriously, once the restrictions are removed, you could live to be 400 years old and not run out of stuff to sample...I mean really.

Just get creative and sample whatever sounds and/or feels right and you'll never get bored...I only have maybe 300 or so records...I could sample and resample those same records for another five years and not run out of ideas...
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