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Old 26th March 2008, 04:22 PM   #1
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Under Rated Mics

A lot has been said about the "usual suspects" like the 800G,U87,sm7s etc.
Now Ill like to mention the attributes of some under rated mics which I have "re discovered'.

My Cad E 100 has recently been used on male and female vocals with dramatic results.
The vocals were very detailed and present and the artists were amaxed at the results compared to the so called "high end"mics which Ive been using.

My ADK Hamburg functions as a "poor mans 47" and my ADK Vienna functions a a "poor mans C12" and they both give me "rich mans results"

My ADK TL is a great FET mic which I use extensively as well.
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Old 26th March 2008, 07:02 PM   #2
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interesting thread. I'm not as experimented as Phily and my opinion is probably not highly valuable around here but I'd like to say that the M147 is cool for male rap vocals and can be found for less than half the street price second hand (cause it's been hardly shited on).
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Old 26th March 2008, 07:10 PM   #3
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audix dynamic mics are mostly underrated.
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Ive hearing a good buzz about the Avant CV12 and the other mics in their line.
Heres a link to their site.
.AVANTONE PRODUCTS PAGE
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Old 26th March 2008, 08:48 PM   #5
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Ive hearing a good buzz about the Avant CV12 and the other mics in their line.
Heres a link to their site.
.AVANTONE PRODUCTS PAGE
this mic is amazing at the price.

The SE Z5600 was great mic i have used and never hear about much.
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Old 26th March 2008, 11:08 PM   #6
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this mic is amazing at the price.

The SE Z5600 was great mic i have used and never hear about much.

Hmm I think it's extremely sibilant in a very unpleasant way.. What have you been using it on and with which pre? Would be nice to know how to make it sound good. I haven't found use for it yet.
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Old 27th March 2008, 02:58 AM   #7
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i used it with a Germanium which rolls off some top end
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Old 28th March 2008, 04:36 AM   #8
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Studio Projects B1 is the best money for performance mic i've ever bought (I have 3). I havent used them on vocals (i also own a Sony C800g ) but everything else i put them on i am impressed with. and they are $120 new on Ebay usually. -Ken
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interesting thread. I'm not as experimented as Phily and my opinion is probably not highly valuable around here but I'd like to say that the M147 is cool for male rap vocals and can be found for less than half the street price second hand (cause it's been hardly shited on).
Yeah, I recorded a few albums using a M147 and it sounded great.

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Old 28th March 2008, 09:19 PM   #11
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In my old studio we used to use a AKG C3000B. The sound was phenomenal!
I knew a couple guys at Guitar Center and go it for around $340.
I highly recommend AKG's
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Old 1st April 2008, 06:00 AM   #12
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Not necesarily cheap, but I snagged a innertube audio MM2000 for 1500 and I'm lovin it. . .there is something about the high end and the way it takes parrallel distortion hip hop vocals real well. . .


Not to mention it's awesome as a mono mic on a drumset, especially for a huge mono mic soundin drum loop
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Old 6th April 2008, 04:34 AM   #13
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MXL V69M after tube change (NOS Mullard AT7) vocals

Avant CV-12 (stock tube) - anywhere

Audix i5 (snare/guitar cab)

Shure KSM32 - anywhere

Audio Technica ATM450 (overheads)
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Old 6th April 2008, 04:53 AM   #14
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MK-219 through a PACIFICA!!! sounds pretty good..
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Old 6th April 2008, 05:00 AM   #15
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Gefel M71S or UM70's.
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Old 6th April 2008, 05:14 AM   #16
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The AKG C3000B is totally underrated. It's a love it or hate it thing with that mic...
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Ive been using my CAD E 100 on r&b vocals recently and Im loving the smooth and present response,kind of like an AKG 414 XL II.
Im going through a Focusrite pre.
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Old 6th April 2008, 04:54 PM   #18
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Old 7th April 2008, 06:51 AM   #19
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MK-219 through a PACIFICA!!! sounds pretty good..

OKTAVA baby!! Mk -319 right here. Got it for like 150 on ebay.
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Old 7th April 2008, 10:42 PM   #20
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First of all great thread, someone should sticky it for everyone asking what mic they should buy with a small budget!

Anyway I really like the sp c1, it can be great on quieter vocals but it is garbage with a LOUD source. Youll either love what comes out of it or hate it but for $200 I have not heard anything that beats it.
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Old 7th April 2008, 10:55 PM   #21
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not neccessarily inexpensive, but generally under-rated mics (at least, for certain applications);

-neumann u48,
-soundelux u95,
-AKG c-12a,
-414EB,
-sony c37a
-km84s (always underrated, no matter how much praise they get)
-stock shure sm57 (plug one into a JLM dual 99v and look out!)


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Old 7th April 2008, 11:15 PM   #22
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i have been blown away by the telefunken ak47. I paid aroun $1600 and I get results that are comparable to mics in the $3000 and up family. I have done some basic listening tests with singer witha brauner vm1, u87, and the ak47. The ak47 was the winner most of the time with the brauner being 2nd. U87 never one. Here are my other favorite underrated mics.
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Old 8th April 2008, 05:25 AM   #23
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shure ksm 32 is amazing for the price and can be used for anything!!!
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there are a slut of small mic companies outsourcing to China for production runs that make pretty decent mics: Cascade, avantone, karma, etc..

What I've found is that a lot of these mics are ripe for mods, upgrades, etc. and, even as they are, sound usable with a good record chain to back them up.
I have a Karma K55. I upgraded all critical parts in the audio path (like 5 caps and 3 resistors) with high quality parts (wima, panasonic), upgraded the tube and got a gotham audio 7pin cable. I recently just took one layering of grill out of the headstock. The mic sounds GREAT! I had a client in Philly choose this mic over a soundelux for vocals. On acoustic gtr, its on pair with some really expensive mics.
maybe 400 total for the mic and all the parts.

If anyone wants to try different types of mics, there is a kat organizing a group buy for a bunch of these exact mics...HERE is a thread on GS, and HERE is the kats website with a list of mics. You sign up then see the prices.
The stuff is painfully inexpensive without a company as middle-man.

I'm getting a pair of royer 121 clones and a pair of C12(ish) clones...maybe 400 bux all together...just have to wait a while for shipping (so I hear)

Again tho, it must be said, GREAT artists will rock the living shit out of a radio shack mic, a bullhorn, whatever...it starts with the artist
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The MXL 2001 with the Mojave mod..awesome at $300
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The MXL 2001 with the Mojave mod..awesome at $300
whats the mod?

I've never bought a mod before,
I just start tearing apart the gear and see whats what...

Kinda why I mentioned both the modding of cheap mics and that group buy...
a FET condenser for 56 bux? hard to go wrong.
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Old 8th April 2008, 02:58 PM   #27
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Old 8th April 2008, 03:00 PM   #28
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definitely the shure ksm 32 and 44.
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Old 8th April 2008, 03:12 PM   #29
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TSM Muneo

Love it!!! (though Millinnia STT-1 or Amek DMCL)

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The Micheal Joly mods on Oktava mics are quite great. I have the 219's, 319's and 012's & use them regularly.
The AT 40 series is not necessarily "underrated" - but they aren't really that expensive.
I like the Sony c48 as well.
Homemade subkicks are nasty in combination with a more detailed mic on kiks.
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