eminem vocal stacks

[tonyscarbones]

whats the best way to do it?

cuz his vocals you can tell that there's stacks in there but then you can't really hear them either it sounds like one thick vocal

[kittonian]

From what I understand it's meticulously recorded and edited and he triple tracks everything. I have done this with a few hip-hop artists who wanted that Eminem sound with great success. It takes a while to properly track and edit but the end result is great.

Once you have your 3 tracks perfected pan two of them to the side (i.e. one about 65 left and the other about 65 right). Bring those two down a bit so they just create the depth and fatness and bring the final track straight up the middle. Grouping all 3 and compressing them with a great stereo comp in parallel also helps quite a bit.

[fontenele]

isn't it vocalign straight up ?
It sounds very much like that.
They sound purposely not equal intonation wise and perfectly aligned.
to me it sounds very vocalign.

[KBOY]

Originally Posted by fontenele

isn't it vocalign straight up ?
It sounds very much like that.
They sound purposely not equal intonation wise and perfectly aligned.
to me it sounds very vocalign.

Could be, but vocalign does exactly what he's saying. Making all the syllables completely on with each other. I've always done it by hand. quite a bitch. Would like to give vocalign a try but i don't believe it works within Nuendo.

[Nahuel]

vocalign woks for PT but there's a standalone version, Tried but it's not like having vocalign in PT.

[fontenele]

Originally Posted by KBOY

Could be, but vocalign does exactly what he's saying. Making all the syllables completely on with each other. I've always done it by hand. quite a bitch. Would like to give vocalign a try but i don't believe it works within Nuendo.

And as I've been bitching... I don't understand why someone doesn't not come up with a VST, AU one click sync solution !
I've been dragging to buy a copy of vocalign for about 5 months now. I have melodyne but there is no 1 click sync function in melodyne and I sincerely do not understand that.

The "magical" one click sync !

[Nahuel]

Originally Posted by fontenele

And as I've been bitching... I don't understand why someone doesn't not come up with a VST, AU one click sync solution !
I've been dragging to buy a copy of vocalign for about 5 months now. I have melodyne but there is no 1 click sync function in melodyne and I sincerely do not understand that.

The "magical" one click sync !

[phillysoulman]

You could try Waves Doubler and the options therein.

Put your original in the middle, open up two instances of the plugin, and bus your original to each instance, l and r and see what happens.
You can offset the delay time.
Start at around 30ms.

[STARSKI]

Vocalign is indispensable to me. I just got a new copy of dutchmuzik who is on here he'll hook it up for a good price. Its one of those must have tools for me for rap vocals and even rnb stacks etc. I've heard people say it messes up the sound but as long as the original and double are not waaay far off it does a great job. It still takes me time to do my vocals as I don't perfectly double the whole thing from my lead track and only certain words so you unless its an exact double you can't grab the original and then the double's whole track and align them. I just go thru and any part I find slight off I grab that region on the original and then grab the region on the ad lib track and align them. Its one of those things that I couldn't live without.

[tonyscarbones]

damn i can't find an illmatic version for vocalign for MAC UB anywhere on the net

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

You could try Waves Doubler and the options therein.

I've played with that thing on and off for years and have never heard it sound as good as actual doubles and triples.
Could be I'm using that plug wrong...

but why not have the artist record the part right from the start.
Thats supposed to be their job, anyways

[anguswoodhead]

You guys are getting me excited about this vocalign thing - I may have to start using my Tools over Cubase and get this thing rockin'.
I've been doing it the hard way for years now - manually going in and editing double and triple takes - Yuck - I hate it.

[Stitch333]

Originally Posted by anguswoodhead

You guys are getting me excited about this vocalign thing - I may have to start using my Tools over Cubase and get this thing rockin'.
I've been doing it the hard way for years now - manually going in and editing double and triple takes - Yuck - I hate it.

vocalign can save you A LOT of time.

The only thing I've noticed about vocalign is that it is very similar to the sesitivity of a gate.
Starski's point is a good one: Most of the time it works fine but make sure to double check any edits you do with vocalign as it tends to make up its own mind, as far as word alignment, sometimes. Especially the further off the double is from the main.

[fontenele]

Originally Posted by tonyscarbones

damn i can't find an illmatic version for vocalign for MAC UB anywhere on the net

R u sure this exists?
Dude, If you find it don't forget post it!

[tonyscarbones]

if i find it i will personally PM everyone in this thread

but the problem is i've looked everywhere with no luck

not even #'s

i need this so damn bad i might have to sell my mpc to get it

[Rukas]

Originally Posted by tonyscarbones

damn i can't find an illmatic version for vocalign for MAC UB anywhere on the net

Equally hard to find for PT 7+ on Windows :(. So if you do ...

[Rukas]

Looking at the option I dont think we need the 399 pound version of it, the 199pound Vocalign Project (either Audiosuite for Pro Tools or not) will work, still, with the exchange rate being what it is thats a lot of money :(

[CharlesD]

Originally Posted by tonyscarbones

whats the best way to do it?

cuz his vocals you can tell that there's stacks in there but then you can't really hear them either it sounds like one thick vocal

Man its not so easy!
I don't think somebody going to help you!

[P3anut]

i was wondering the same thing

[J CraQ]

Whenever I listen to these productions... All I hear is some type of harmizor effect going on. Just an expensive ass Eventide 8000 box or something of the like. Trust me they aren't working too hard to achieve this effect. They're all ready rich bitch!!! If I only had 5 grand to waste.

[Storyville]

Originally Posted by phillysoulman

You could try Waves Doubler and the options therein.

Put your original in the middle, open up two instances of the plugin, and bus your original to each instance, l and r and see what happens.
You can offset the delay time.
Start at around 30ms.

Didn't we just have the same thread yesterday?

[gmonrr]

i know dre is a work horse when tracking vocals for atists. i hear he'll make you do it line by line all night if he has to


they must spend time recording so the tone is always matched then do some editing in the DAW to get it tighter

I heard a method man interview once where he said working with dre you have to be ready for some gruelling sessions and you gotta be ready for that punishment just to have a dre produced track on your album. other wise the song don't come out