Picture of Dr Dre Using What Looks Like Colossus and Other Vsts

[jbuehler]

Holy smokey shit!

One guy zooms in on a pic and people around here start crying CSI?!?

No wonder all these hip hop heads are still stuck with MPCs......


I would guess Dre has all kinds of setups and rooms to work in.

He probably has one with no chairs, just pillows, an MPC3K and a vending machine full of blunts!

Wouldn't you if you had sold that many records?

[Versatile255]

Originally Posted by no ssl yet

IF you want make your shit better, get to your local college and get tight with some horn players, and some string players. Find you a good bass player, and a few guitarists.

Then MAKE MUSIC

im going to college word im a start doing this oo and i agree on the other stuff.Theres plenny of interviews where dre says what he uses most the time is some similar stuff sometimes its new stuff as long as its a hit or a hot beat dont matter and even if new some of the stuff they use now we probably couldnt get it because its exclusive or reall worth lots point is before they didnt have all the stuff now when we heard the first few albums they had the stuff you stat out wit and stll made hits its just not upgrading for better is just now production is different or there going a different route to get a new sound.

[MarkusColeman]

I get really bored by all these equipment discussions.
it doesn't mean shit what you use, as long as you know your equipment well enough......to make the track sound the it's supposed to.

and you can't teach that. it's experience and years worth of......listening to RECORDS. you can only learn from other people, you get inspired, you find out the techniques to reproduce a particular phrazing/sound/mood and then integrate it into your own sound (creatively).

that is the only secret.

so instead of chasing gear lists, maybe you should ask Mr.Young what music he listens to, what movies he watches and what books he likes?
where the inspiration comes from, what's important for the process?
has anybody done that yet?

the thing about trends is, that they are over the moment most FOLLOWERS try to go to their substance and imitate them.
and you get only remembered by being an originator and innovater, not the most convincing replica.
same goes for the equipment involved.

if you think, you can tell which vst or compressor was used, but can't tell that your own tracks are out of tune and musically sound like a drunk, 12 year old done them - how can you at the same time argue about Dre's drums or Timbaland's mixes?
it's like dry humping - not only does it look stupid, you will find out soon enough, THE REAL THING is much more fun, too.

the only thing I'm excited about right now is Eminem's record and Detox......and the day Timbaland starts to make music he's really capable of.
these two are the only ones I would like to work with (well, count in Just Blaze).
why? because I like good music. Pro Tools, Vinyl or Tape. Vst or hardware.

those are the dudes who really care about music and the process, not the tools.

as far as this forum goes - we have some of the best mixers in the industry being members, some of the best producers posting here.
but you don't learn much in here. probably, because people don't like the process of learning, or because they think there's some magical, mystical short cut which will make them smash out hit after hit in a month or two - and they are waiting for that one tip & trick.
won't happen. maybe because people ask the wrong questions?

I'm back to learning. I know a lot, but not enough.

[PettyCash]

Originally Posted by MarkusColeman

I get really bored by all these equipment discussions.
it doesn't mean shit what you use, as long as you know your equipment well enough......to make the track sound the it's supposed to.

and you can't teach that. it's experience and years worth of......listening to RECORDS. you can only learn from other people, you get inspired, you find out the techniques to reproduce a particular phrazing/sound/mood and then integrate it into your own sound (creatively).

that is the only secret.

so instead of chasing gear lists, maybe you should ask Mr.Young what music he listens to, what movies he watches and what books he likes?
where the inspiration comes from, what's important for the process?
has anybody done that yet?

the thing about trends is, that they are over the moment most FOLLOWERS try to go to their substance and imitate them.
and you get only remembered by being an originator and innovater, not the most convincing replica.
same goes for the equipment involved.

if you think, you can tell which vst or compressor was used, but can't tell that your own tracks are out of tune and musically sound like a drunk, 12 year old done them - how can you at the same time argue about Dre's drums or Timbaland's mixes?
it's like dry humping - not only does it look stupid, you will find out soon enough, THE REAL THING is much more fun, too.

the only thing I'm excited about right now is Eminem's record and Detox......and the day Timbaland starts to make music he's really capable of.
these two are the only ones I would like to work with (well, count in Just Blaze).
why? because I like good music. Pro Tools, Vinyl or Tape. Vst or hardware.

those are the dudes who really care about music and the process, not the tools.

as far as this forum goes - we have some of the best mixers in the industry being members, some of the best producers posting here.
but you don't learn much in here. probably, because people don't like the process of learning, or because they think there's some magical, mystical short cut which will make them smash out hit after hit in a month or two - and they are waiting for that one tip & trick.
won't happen. maybe because people ask the wrong questions?

I'm back to learning. I know a lot, but not enough.

If everybody, pro, amatuer, and hobbiest alike could be more open to some real discussion, everyone would get more out of their time spent on this site. Improving the S/N ratio here at GS is only gonna start with everyone agreeing to stick to each threads original topic and quit the hijacking, and stick only to making comments if its relevant to learning more from the discussion.

And newbies to audio and recording need to stop asking questions that are so broad that they would be impossible to cover in just one thread, and instead stick to breaking down their questions into more specific topics that can easily be discussed.

And others that have a problem posting like respectably grown men and women need to leave their issues at home. Good discussion etiquette ain't rocket science...

Right now this issue is steering this thread away from its original topic, so If ppl wanna continue talking about this, go create a new thread...

Originally Posted by MarkusColeman

I get really bored by all these equipment discussions.
it doesn't mean shit what you use, as long as you know your equipment well enough......to make the track sound the it's supposed to.

and you can't teach that. it's experience and years worth of......listening to RECORDS. you can only learn from other people, you get inspired, you find out the techniques to reproduce a particular phrazing/sound/mood and then integrate it into your own sound (creatively).

that is the only secret.

so instead of chasing gear lists, maybe you should ask Mr.Young what music he listens to, what movies he watches and what books he likes?
where the inspiration comes from, what's important for the process?
has anybody done that yet?

the thing about trends is, that they are over the moment most FOLLOWERS try to go to their substance and imitate them.
and you get only remembered by being an originator and innovater, not the most convincing replica.
same goes for the equipment involved.

if you think, you can tell which vst or compressor was used, but can't tell that your own tracks are out of tune and musically sound like a drunk, 12 year old done them - how can you at the same time argue about Dre's drums or Timbaland's mixes?
it's like dry humping - not only does it look stupid, you will find out soon enough, THE REAL THING is much more fun, too.

the only thing I'm excited about right now is Eminem's record and Detox......and the day Timbaland starts to make music he's really capable of.
these two are the only ones I would like to work with (well, count in Just Blaze).
why? because I like good music. Pro Tools, Vinyl or Tape. Vst or hardware.

those are the dudes who really care about music and the process, not the tools.

as far as this forum goes - we have some of the best mixers in the industry being members, some of the best producers posting here.
but you don't learn much in here. probably, because people don't like the process of learning, or because they think there's some magical, mystical short cut which will make them smash out hit after hit in a month or two - and they are waiting for that one tip & trick.
won't happen. maybe because people ask the wrong questions?

I'm back to learning. I know a lot, but not enough.

Man the truth is beautiful.

[PettyCash]

As far as gear goes. It doesnt matter if you could even get your hands on what Dre or Timbo uses on a regular basis, if you have no ideal what you are doing.

Im just about tired of other producers coming to me and expecting me to tell them that their beats sound good when really everything is all out of tune.

It pays to spend time actually getting to know how music is played, and learn something about chord progression.

and those who arent willing to actually slow down, and take some time to learn how to produce not just a beat, but a whole song; and learn how to mix, etc., need to just stick to what they actually know and stop faking it.

[Dante310]

markus i couldn't agree more. these equipment discussions are just pointless nowadays.

it's funny, this picture that has this forum on dre's balls is from an la times article that came out the other day. the article would be what aspiring producers should read because it talks about what actually matters: having a balanced life and an unstoppable work ethic.

the truth is there is a secret to making it as a producer but 99% of kids making beats now either don't understand it or refuse to believe it. its to live in the studio. period. never stop grinding and stay focused on your craft, not what a producer who you've never met uses to make HIS beats.

[halfguard]

Originally Posted by Dante310

markus i couldn't agree more. these equipment discussions are just pointless nowadays.

i get what you are saying but this is gearslutz, where people talk about gear........i think its cool to know what gear people use...because people ask this it doesnt mean they think that it will make them better. sometimes people are just interested, does that hurt anyone? i myself am more interested in peoples workflow, maybee i will learn something that will help me work better and faster.i think some people take themselves to serious. people come here to learn and have a little fun. for example, i just got an asr..do i think its going to make me kanye/timbo/alchemist etc.......no not really, but i want to see what this thing can do since its so highly regarded for its filters. if it improves the sound of my drums 5% its worth it to me. i guess i just dont understand why people are so combative in these forums??????

[azwun25]

Originally Posted by MarkusColeman

if you think, you can tell which vst or compressor was used, but can't tell that your own tracks are out of tune and musically sound like a drunk, 12 year old done them - how can you at the same time argue about Dre's drums or Timbaland's mixes?
it's like dry humping - not only does it look stupid, you will find out soon enough, THE REAL THING is much more fun, too.

this is the best quote in awhile on these boards..

Originally Posted by azwun25

this is the best quote in awhile on these boards..

LOL Ahhhhh I don't know. There are some women so Fine, Id be happy with the dry hump (IF she wouldn't give me anything else LOL)

(My dry hump definition means with the woman present) LOL.

[Dante310]

Originally Posted by halfguard

i get what you are saying but this is gearslutz, where people talk about gear........i think its cool to know what gear people use...because people ask this it doesnt mean they think that it will make them better. sometimes people are just interested, does that hurt anyone? i myself am more interested in peoples workflow, maybee i will learn something that will help me work better and faster.i think some people take themselves to serious. people come here to learn and have a little fun. for example, i just got an asr..do i think its going to make me kanye/timbo/alchemist etc.......no not really, but i want to see what this thing can do since its so highly regarded for its filters. if it improves the sound of my drums 5% its worth it to me. i guess i just dont understand why people are so combative in these forums??????

halfguard i don't disagree with you. its just that in general you seem to be the exception to a ton of producers i know. i just know too many people who work a few hours a week but gear lust all day every day and then wonder why their beats aren't as good as dre's, that's all.

[Puma]

Thanks for the link. Great interview

[halfguard]

Originally Posted by Dante310

halfguard i don't disagree with you. its just that in general you seem to be the exception to a ton of producers i know. i just know too many people who work a few hours a week but gear lust all day every day and then wonder why their beats aren't as good as dre's, that's all.

i hear ya dante...there is alot of that..i guess i just give people the benefit of the doubt.

[PhonoquO]

nice article. i think quincy jones is partly responsible for dre's drive; dre aspires to achieve what quincy has. dre's sonic palette is only a part of his trick. more than anything else, it's a less-is-more mentality, hook creation skills, and selective hearing.

[Krumbz]

PROPS TO THE GUY WHO POSTED THE LINK TO THIS ARTICLE!

It's NOT every day you get to read an interview with Dr. Dre. Not even ONCE a year really.

So thanx for sharing this rare gem. It's good to know the path that Dre's taking and he seems laidback yet focused on the goals he needs to accomplish. Good for him - duke deserves it.

[Gear Tramp]

so what have we all learned?

[PhonoquO]

Originally Posted by Gear Tramp

so what have we all learned?

good health keeps you on point!

[Rapslow]

Originally Posted by Gear Tramp

so what have we all learned?

best thing i learned is Quincy Jones made thriller at 50!!
a lot of inspirations

[beat you down]

Originally Posted by Gear Tramp

so what have we all learned?

eminem's new album is on it's way?

[Krumbz]

Originally Posted by Gear Tramp

so what have we all learned?

Dre is a healthy procrastinator?

[Gear Tramp]

[blayz2002]

Originally Posted by MarkusColeman

I get really bored by all these equipment discussions.
it doesn't mean shit what you use,

Huh! The forum is called gearslutz.

But I guess it's ok for someone here to be interested in what maybe one of us lesser known producers are using to achieve a certain sound, or what gear sounds good on this or that sound or for this or that technique, but it ain't cool if we wonder what Dre, Timbo, etc use to get their sounds.

Don't get me twisted I ain't trying to be up in a well known producers gear simply because he's using it. But if it's accepted that you like the way a producer gets a certain sound then you're going to be interested in how they get it. Of course it would be stupid to just go copy it as by the time you get it to market peeps will just say hey that sounds like so and so. But this is also the process of learning.

I came to this forum after searching for info on hip hop production because my beats didn't sound like the one's I thought were hot. Since coming here my beats are getting closer to the sound I want because you guys have taught me about gear (and techniques). Everything else I was studying was more geared to rock and dance.

Ps...every scholar needs a teacher, and if you want to be(at) the best, your best learning from the best.

[Sensual Ears]

if people spent half the time working and believing in their own music instead of hanging on someone else's nuts, they would be carving their own nice in music history

it's like jared leto @ the warped tour

[aaron-77]

Regarding the picture of Dre, I was told he had been studying music theory and also learning piano at Berkley... the setting for the photograph looks very similar to some of the production booths at Berkley.
Is it possible this is just a random picture in a random setting, and not a true glimpse of Dre at work in his natural surroundings. I know quite a lot of the gear he uses regularly and can see very little of it in evidence here - where is his SSL, his tape machine, etc.

[Denny Lavish]

Originally Posted by aaron-77

Is it possible this is just a random picture in a random setting, and not a true glimpse of Dre at work in his natural surroundings.

I worked in his room at Record One and and He had a Rhodes, Wurly and some other keyboard that I cant Remember in the same place as they are in that pic. It looks like the same room to me but there is no way I can be sure. Also, they had boxes for every plug in instrument known to man in a store room right off the main room's machine room.


Lavish

[powarule]

I learned long ago that Dr. Dre is overated and doesnt make his OWN music. but he damn sure get credit for Focus's hard work.

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by PettyCash

As far as gear goes. It doesnt matter if you could even get your hands on what Dre or Timbo uses on a regular basis, if you have no ideal what you are doing.

Im just about tired of other producers coming to me and expecting me to tell them that their beats sound good when really everything is all out of tune.

It pays to spend time actually getting to know how music is played, and learn something about chord progression.

and those who arent willing to actually slow down, and take some time to learn how to produce not just a beat, but a whole song; and learn how to mix, etc., need to just stick to what they actually know and stop faking it.

WORD!!

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by Sensual Ears

if people spent half the time working and believing in their own music instead of hanging on someone else's nuts, they would be carving their own nice in music history

it's like jared leto @ the warped tour

WORD

[phillysoulman]

Originally Posted by loncali

MySpace.com - LonCaliProductions - Los Angeles CA/London UK - Hip Hop / R&B / Rap - www.myspace.com/loncaliproductions

Uh..I wasnt aware that Dre could play keys.

[beat you down]

the photographer asked him to sit there cause the light was better overthere that's all.
it's not even his set-up.