MPC Timing/Pro Tools & Logic Tracking mystery solved?

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Here's a post I found on the DUC concerning syncing an MPC with Pro Tools. This has seemed to solve my timing issues. My bad if it's already been talked about.

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I love the timing of the MPC-3000 and always will………snip………Pt's starts and stops the MPC as the MPC is controlled by PT's. Life is great in that area



You are NOT using the absolute time of the MPC this way - unless you have programmed PT with about 2000 tempo changes per song. I used to run my MPC as MTC or Midi clock slave thus having the MP start when I hit play in protools... If I had a beat running and hitting play on the MP it would sound as programmed/Played. However, when I switched to Protools transport and hit play there I would feel a difference in the timing. So I decided to find out what the H was going on. I tried having Logic Pro be the MTC master but same thing happened and I was like - WHAAAT. So I did this: Hooked Logic Pro up so slave start when I hit play on the MPC this having the MPC sending MTC to Logic. Logic shows the tempo to which it is slaving and as it slaved to the MPC i would see Logic altering the tempo and that CONSTANTLY... i.e : tempo 100 on the MPC would read like this in Logic continuesly: 100 | 100,025 | 99,00145 | 100,00142 etc etc etc - all the time. This is why we LOVE the mpc timing : It has human timing (errors) in it's algorithms. If you slave the MPC to MTC or SMPT or Midi click you will LOOSE that timing.

I have my MPC set like this:

Positional and Word Clock master. How ? Like this:

I do my whole song arrangement in the MPC and I just have protools sitting there monitoring / Mixing the audio... When I'm done arranging and composing I record it like this:

MPC is slaving PT via MTC - the midi time code is generated thru' the MPC SMPT out port going to an External WC master (C-LAB Time Machine) the Time Machine is reading the SMPTE off of the MPC and generating a valid sample rate & Midi TIme Code based on that SMPTE deriving from the mpc. This reassures that protools will slave 100% to the mpc even at bar 670 if you would ever have a song that long:-)))) And like that you would get the mpc timing 100% and not only in between the frame rates it would normally receive (25 & 30) when slaved to MTC. It like this: 25 & 30 per second the MPC gets a beat in it's head telling it to slave to what protools is sending = 25 & 30 per second (MTC) a message to resync. Imagine you would do that to a drummer...

If you dont set the MPC as Clock and Positional master protools with fall out a sync eventually....

So when done recording I set PT to normal and not online mode and there I have my whole arrangement recorded & half mixed with MPC timing.

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