Fl Studio/Fruity Loops Sound Quality compared to hardware and other DAWs

[riecespieces]

Long story short I just placed a track that I made 3 yrs ago in FL Studio and I had to remake it from scratch becuz I didnt have any of the orignal files and I only had 12 hours to do it. I opened it up and it brought back memories of how easy composing on it was and how much flac I used to get for using. It was a long process remaking the track becuz of the sound design and also remembering what programs I used in the first place but as far as mapping out the sequence patterns it was cake.(I dont plan on mixing in Fruity Loops, I wouldnt suggest that just bounce ur trax out hot just below peaking then mix in Protools or whateva u use) Now Im not saying Im leaving hardware or anything like that but Im definately going to have 2 setups with a laptop softsyths and FL Studio.

Just to give an example of the FL Studio sound that every body complains about and calls amateur I just uploaded a copy of that song I was talking about in another topic to my myspace Ill leave it up for a couple hours (Im technically not supposed to or allowed to do this so yeah). This is with a little to no mixing effort at all I did was level volumes and added reverb other than that this is how my beats sound coming out of Fl Studio or Fruity Loops whateva they call it now before a mix or master is done to it. Once its mastered Ill post that as well.

I dont want feedback or anything this is just for people who have a negative opinion of the program and cuz I remember back in the day hearing a lot of people complaining about FL sound quality so there u go

[matthew.sawicki]

I believe that it's a perfect tool. Lots of people have a stigma about Fruity Loops beats, but I've never had anyone question my abilities or practices, and I've been an avid FL guy for a few years now.

You can check my beats at www.krackatraxxx.com to hear at least how I do within the program.

I actually don't mix in FL at all though. Everything is either bounced out of there for demoing as is, or tracked out and mixed on my PT rig. The differences are enormous, but that's to be expected with the level of effort between the FL mixes and the PT mixes.

[riecespieces]

So u still use it now ? Do u use their soft synths or after market ones ? I couldnt ever get into any of the standard ones that came with it even when i first started. They just didnt sound good to me but im curious if anyone else was able to get a good sound out of em. "Ratatat" was hot. I just got an MPC 3000 and thats been in rotation pretty heavily lately as my main sequencer but Im tempted to just cop a maxed out pc laptop and do it for when im on tha road. I pretty much gotta drive everywhere cuz theres no way in hell im gettin my ASR 10, MPC, Polyevolver Keyboard or the rest of my hardware shipped anywhere...

[matthew.sawicki]

I make everything in FL now. I used to use an MPC 2000xl a few years ago, but I ditched that in favor of FL. Ratatat is actually used by Huey right now as a Nelly diss song.

www.myspace.com/djbishopmixtapes is a place you can hear it online. Also recorded and all that at the studio of yours truly as well.

I use only the synths in FL right now, I think they sound pretty swell. I've been wanting to get other ones and start using those, but haven't gotten around to it yet. Maybe someday!

[MattmaN]

Anyone who codes audio engines will tell you there is no differance.
I have seen several developers refute differances is sequencer rendering quality.

[DAH]

This beat i made completely on FL studio ITB

[thefunkhunter]

fruity loops i think is on the same level of reason as far as quality, many people will argue that it is professional sounding but in reality it's not as good as what the professionals use. But by all means it is a fantastic prosumer software and is really great for beginners getting into music, i used it quite a bit about 3 years ago just like the user that posted this thread but sometimes we just have to move on to better things.

[DAH]

Originally Posted by thefunkhunter

fruity loops i think is on the same level of reason as far as quality, many people will argue that it is professional sounding but in reality it's not as good as what the professionals use. But by all means it is a fantastic prosumer software and is really great for beginners getting into music, i used it quite a bit about 3 years ago just like the user that posted this thread but sometimes we just have to move on to better things.

Shhhiieet, DAWs DO NOT sound on themselves. VSTis, plugins and the piece of meat between the monitors and chair contribute to the sound. Make a simple Dirac test to prove this fact.

[Lehkz]

My comments are posted in the clip.
Please listen. Answer honestly.

P.S Everything heard in the clip is all done in FLStudio 7

[Killah_Trakz]

Originally Posted by DAH

Shhhiieet, DAWs DO NOT sound on themselves. VSTis, plugins and the piece of meat between the monitors and chair contribute to the sound. Make a simple Dirac test to prove this fact.

I think they all do the same crap son, just some have different approaches and also yeah every daw does have the same sound, except SAMPLITUDE!

[Versatile255]

Originally Posted by Lehkz

My comments are posted in the clip.
Please listen. Answer honestly.

P.S Everything heard in the clip is all done in FLStudio 7

sounds real good man cant even believe thats a mxl 990.

[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by thefunkhunter

fruity loops i think is on the same level of reason as far as quality, many people will argue that it is professional sounding but in reality it's not as good as what the professionals use. But by all means it is a fantastic prosumer software and is really great for beginners getting into music, i used it quite a bit about 3 years ago just like the user that posted this thread but sometimes we just have to move on to better things.

No offense to any Reason user but in my opinion Reason sounds like crap, I bought it becuz I heard it was a pretty good program and had a lot of capabilities and I kno a few major producers are users of it but I think sonically its not best sounding program and I mean the sounds in the synths that come wit it not the daw it self a lot of great synths out there that kill it...

[Apex]

Originally Posted by Lehkz

My comments are posted in the clip.
Please listen. Answer honestly.

P.S Everything heard in the clip is all done in FLStudio 7

guess that answers that question.

[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by Lehkz

My comments are posted in the clip.
Please listen. Answer honestly.

P.S Everything heard in the clip is all done in FLStudio 7

yo i finally listen to this clip.. ur a funny mutha****a ha ha ha

[MattmaN]

Originally Posted by Killah_Trakz

I think they all do the same crap son, just some have different approaches and also yeah every daw does have the same sound, except SAMPLITUDE!

Nope not even samplitude has a sound.
A guy over at the reaper forums did a test with samp, and a similar one was done at kvr with many more sequencers, and every single one including samp came out 100% identical.

It's the nice built in fx that samp has the edge in.

Alot of people will think, and hear, but math is math, and there's really no arguing with all the developers who say it's all the same.
I've probably seen 5-6 sequencer developers all refute any differances.

[riecespieces]

Yea pretty much it just all depends on ur mixing abilities as to how your daw is going to sound cuz I used Sonar for a while and I never got the sound Danjahands gets out of it... All about having a real pro mix an master ur ish...

[cynic one]

a lot has to do with what plugs you're using for mixing, and what levels you mix at.

i get real decent mixes outta FL all the time.

not all hip hop, but i love the sound quality.....

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[MarkusColeman]

Originally Posted by riecespieces

Yea pretty much it just all depends on ur mixing abilities as to how your daw is going to sound cuz I used Sonar for a while and I never got the sound Danjahands gets out of it... All about having a real pro mix an master ur ish...

Not only is Nate's engineer a great one, she's HOT too.

[pipelineaudio]

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[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by pipelineaudio

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So what exactly does this program do?

[Kyan Craig]

fl studio is awesome

[pipelineaudio]

Originally Posted by riecespieces

So what exactly does this program do?

It summons the powers of Funk Logic

[Audioholic]

I started out using fruity loops..after a year or two i decided to step it up to what some of the big dogs were using and purchased an mpc 1000. I really didnt notice a sound difference.. if so, it was very minimal. So a week later I decided to return the mpc and got into using reason and never looked back. I really favor FL but reason has a little more to offer so I stuck with it.

But to answer the question. With the right plugs and mixing techniques I dont think it matters what you use in terms of quality. Its what your most comfortable with.

[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by pipelineaudio

It summons the powers of Funk Logic

hahaha

[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by MarkusColeman

Not only is Nate's engineer a great one, she's HOT too.

Id hit it .....


To be honest the main reason y i cant use fruity loops I mean its stupid but its jsut the fact that I feel dirty when I use it now I bought a laptop and tried to use it recently and I find myself hiding it from other engineers or producers when Im in the studio like I feel embarrassed I dont think I can do it IM just gonna go cop Sonar and call it a day Its just like people ask so what do u use Fruity Loops and its like they assume Im making Solja Boy beats and stuff lol Bump it Sux tho cuz I do need to have a portable set up but I guess for ill stick wit my hardware til I get that Sonar

[cynic one]

Originally Posted by riecespieces

Id hit it .....


To be honest the main reason y i cant use fruity loops I mean its stupid but its jsut the fact that I feel dirty when I use it now I bought a laptop and tried to use it recently and I find myself hiding it from other engineers or producers when Im in the studio like I feel embarrassed I dont think I can do it IM just gonna go cop Sonar and call it a day Its just like people ask so what do u use Fruity Loops and its like they assume Im making Solja Boy beats and stuff lol Bump it Sux tho cuz I do need to have a portable set up but I guess for ill stick wit my hardware til I get that Sonar

pfffffffft.............that's weak rieces. **** what other people think. use what you need to to make your music.

personally, i bounce between FL, the mpc1k, cubase sx, and my mother****ing GAMEBOY. different tools give different results. if someone is gonna talk shit just because of the name of the program or whatever..........they're just closed minded sheep.

.........then again that describes most people in hip hop music these days. ..........in my opinion of course :p

[riecespieces]

Originally Posted by cynic

pfffffffft.............that's weak rieces. **** what other people think. use what you need to to make your music.

personally, i bounce between FL, the mpc1k, cubase sx, and my mother****ing GAMEBOY. different tools give different results. if someone is gonna talk shit just because of the name of the program or whatever..........they're just closed minded sheep.

.........then again that describes most people in hip hop music these days. ..........in my opinion of course :p

lol ha ha Im halfway joking ... I just get offended when I c a friend from high school and their like oh man u make beats man what u use like fruity loops, its like an insult... Whatever works tho if the beats r hot the beats r hot thats how i feel

[Methlab]

Hot beats are made in FL all the time. They just aren't usually mixed in there. I think Cubase is ideal if you are mixing your beats down also. FL is great if you just make the beat and send the bounces to an ME. I personally use Cubase because I am used to it and have been using it for years now. I don't think FL sounds better or worse, it just is not an ideal DAW to mix in...IMO.

[daslicht]

but when math is math why does in some DAWs mask sounds each other where in other don't?

[Lrmusic]

Originally Posted by daslicht

but when math is math why does in some DAWs mask sounds each other where in other don't?

Make sure both DAWs have the same pan law settings.