Soul strings

marcuscw · 9th July 2007, 02:18 PM

i wanna recreate a 60s soul song with strings but everything i got is sounding too classical (like the vienna violins). anybody know a good vst/samplepack for old scool strings. or maybe some good tracks to sample em from ?

An example of what i'm looking for

http://home.12move.nl/boink/Soulstrings.mp3

Musiclab · 9th July 2007, 03:00 PM

try using a smaller group and really its in the parts

marcuscw · 9th July 2007, 03:08 PM

thnx! but what do you mean its in the parts? cause in the example i only hear one note at a time, so there's not much to play with except for the sound.

chester · 9th July 2007, 03:10 PM

tried mellotronstrings yet ??

bye ches

Sirocco · 9th July 2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chester

tried mellotronstrings yet ??

bye ches

that is the closest you will get

krs · 9th July 2007, 05:03 PM

I disagree, mellotron is not it at all - unless you're talking some software I haven't seen..

Actually Marcus I'm just listening on laptop speakers right now, but there are 2 distinct voices (unison though in different octaves for much of the part), this is a big part of the sound.

I haven't had this sound requested before, but I can definitely get you close. Send me a link to what you've got.

Kirk

DROPKICK · 9th July 2007, 06:00 PM

Sampletank tape strings! or if you have a roland keyboard you could use the 60's string preset! or you could just add some lofi to your existing strings!

t.z · 9th July 2007, 06:26 PM

Save your money and download Izotope Vinyl. If you want a little more, run it through PSP MixSaturator or Vintage Warmer.

Case Closed.

filterayok · 9th July 2007, 06:35 PM

wanna secret???

when your trying to get that kind of effect, find the closest string sound you can find, eq to get it as close as you can, compress, then pour on the reverb, and then.... after your midi part is down, over dub a pass of you EVER SO SLIGHTLY moving the pitch wheel up and down randomly

this beat pretty much sux, but theres no sample here, and you'll see how close you can get to that old sould sound using that process

marcuscw · 9th July 2007, 06:38 PM

thnx guys i will try everything out!!

krs i pm'd you.

marcuscw · 9th July 2007, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by filterayok

wanna secret???

when your trying to get that kind of effect, find the closest string sound you can find, eq to get it as close as you can, compress, then pour on the reverb, and then.... after your midi part is down, over dub a pass of you EVER SO SLIGHTLY moving the pitch wheel up and down randomly

this beat pretty much sux, but theres no sample here, and you'll see how close you can get to that old sould sound using that process

that sounds like a nice one !!! thnx! you also hear the pitch goin up and down slightly in the sample i attached this sounds like a good way to get that same effect :D

filterayok · 9th July 2007, 06:42 PM

yea sorry forgot to attach the example, but its there now

Methlab · 9th July 2007, 07:40 PM

I love a plug called Vintage Strings for this :

Musicrow Vintage Strings VST VSTi, virtual strings machine instrument

Very cheap and sounds killer.

Musiclab · 10th July 2007, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcuscw

thnx! but what do you mean its in the parts? cause in the example i only hear one note at a time, so there's not much to play with except for the sound.

First off when you listen to old soul records there werent giant string sections on them, so look through your library for smaller ensembles. Next its all in the parts, you have to come up with parts that are stylistically right. Listen to the string arrangements and cop what you can

Feinstrom · 11th July 2007, 10:28 AM

I could swear the strings in the example ARE Mellotron strings, but that may just be the vintage recording or the sound quality of the snippet.

filterayok · 11th July 2007, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feinstrom

I could swear the strings in the example ARE Mellotron strings, but that may just be the vintage recording or the sound quality of the snippet.

the original example or MY example? the original is live strings for sure!

Feinstrom · 11th July 2007, 05:06 PM

The lower one. I couldn't get the upper one to work...

If it was a 60s track, no wonder it sounds a bit like a mellotron; the mellotron samples were recorded in the 60s, too.
But as I said - I may be completely wrong!

filterayok · 11th July 2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feinstrom

The lower one. I couldn't get the upper one to work...

If it was a 60s track, no wonder it sounds a bit like a mellotron; the mellotron samples were recorded in the 60s, too.
But as I said - I may be completely wrong!

haha--the lower one was my example of how to make it sound like a vintage recording using ALL SYNTHS---i completely arranged that myself! theyre not mello trons, just a small string section patch off the XV5080 compressed, eq'd and reverb-ed, and then layered with synth horns. When you do that pitch wheel thing it REALLY adds that vintage feel---

Feinstrom · 11th July 2007, 07:15 PM

Got me on that one!
And I'm not even feeling embarrassed - that's what recording is all about: fooling people into thinking someone else is playing music to him.

Now you know you can already do it...

**toolskid** · 11th July 2007, 07:34 PM

get KRS to do it

he will rock it!!

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9th July 2007, 02:18 PM	#1
marcuscw Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	Soul strings i wanna recreate a 60s soul song with strings but everything i got is sounding too classical (like the vienna violins). anybody know a good vst/samplepack for old scool strings. or maybe some good tracks to sample em from ? An example of what i'm looking for http://home.12move.nl/boink/Soulstrings.mp3

9th July 2007, 03:00 PM	#2
Musiclab Lives for gear Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Elmont NY Posts: 3,154	try using a smaller group and really its in the parts __________________ Lou Gimenez www.musiclabnyc.com

9th July 2007, 05:03 PM	#6
krs Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 712	I disagree, mellotron is not it at all - unless you're talking some software I haven't seen.. Actually Marcus I'm just listening on laptop speakers right now, but there are 2 distinct voices (unison though in different octaves for much of the part), this is a big part of the sound. I haven't had this sound requested before, but I can definitely get you close. Send me a link to what you've got. Kirk __________________ Kirk Starkey String Design Arrangement - Performance - Production http://kirkstarkey.com Ottawa ON Canada

9th July 2007, 06:42 PM	#12
filterayok Lives for gear Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,242	yea sorry forgot to attach the example, but its there now __________________ http://www.myspace.com/ericsanicola http://www.myspace.com/hisboyL http://EricSanicola.com

9th July 2007, 03:08 PM	#3
marcuscw Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	thnx! but what do you mean its in the parts? cause in the example i only hear one note at a time, so there's not much to play with except for the sound.

9th July 2007, 03:10 PM	#4
chester Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: the whole world Posts: 367	tried mellotronstrings yet ?? bye ches

9th July 2007, 06:00 PM	#7
DROPKICK Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 121	Sampletank tape strings! or if you have a roland keyboard you could use the 60's string preset! or you could just add some lofi to your existing strings!

9th July 2007, 06:26 PM	#8
t.z Gear nut Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 85	Save your money and download Izotope Vinyl. If you want a little more, run it through PSP MixSaturator or Vintage Warmer. Case Closed.

9th July 2007, 06:38 PM	#10
marcuscw Gear interested Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 23	thnx guys i will try everything out!! krs i pm'd you.

9th July 2007, 07:40 PM	#13
Methlab Lives for gear Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 2,362	I love a plug called Vintage Strings for this : Musicrow Vintage Strings VST VSTi, virtual strings machine instrument Very cheap and sounds killer.

11th July 2007, 10:28 AM	#15
Feinstrom Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wallenhorst, Germany Posts: 267	I could swear the strings in the example ARE Mellotron strings, but that may just be the vintage recording or the sound quality of the snippet.

11th July 2007, 05:06 PM	#17
Feinstrom Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wallenhorst, Germany Posts: 267	The lower one. I couldn't get the upper one to work... If it was a 60s track, no wonder it sounds a bit like a mellotron; the mellotron samples were recorded in the 60s, too. But as I said - I may be completely wrong!

11th July 2007, 07:15 PM	#19
Feinstrom Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Wallenhorst, Germany Posts: 267	Got me on that one! And I'm not even feeling embarrassed - that's what recording is all about: fooling people into thinking someone else is playing music to him. Now you know you can already do it...

11th July 2007, 07:34 PM	#20
toolskid Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: london Posts: 2,122	get KRS to do it he will rock it!! __________________ Emre Ramazanoglu http://www.emremusic.com the wise man can pick up a grain of sand and envision the whole universe. The fool, however, will just lie down on some seaweed and roll around until he's completely draped in it. Then he'll stand up and go "Hey, I'm vine man"

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