Planet Rock Drums

[paultools]

Pretty much straight programmed 808 with some reverb..

Anyone wanna guess who was the engineer?

If you wanna hear REALLY processed 808 sounds, check out Shannon, "Let the Music Play"!

[Joseph Reeves]

Originally Posted by paultools

If you wanna hear REALLY processed 808 sounds, check out Shannon, "Let the Music Play"!

YouTube - Shannon "Let the Music Play" REALLY? the only thing that sounds remotely 808-ish to me is the Rimshot/woodblocks....

[Edge]

You should have no problem finding 808 sounds they are in every drum machine keyboard and softsynth I like the propellerheads rebirth 808 it sounds and works like a real one. you can download it free right here The ReBirth Museum

[Fredrik]

Its an 808 for sure.


Edit: I found this Arthur Baker interview where he talks a bit about it.

Interview

[paultools]

Originally Posted by Joseph Reeves

YouTube - Shannon "Let the Music Play" REALLY? the only thing that sounds remotely 808-ish to me is the Rimshot/woodblocks....

Amazing, huh?

[paultools]

Originally Posted by joshelevator

john robie made those beats with his 808. ive touched that 808, praise the lord. he programmed the entire track and all the other ones with his name on it.

Josh, who was the mix engineer for most of those John Robie/Arthur Baker collabos?

[joshelevator]

Originally Posted by paultools

Amazing, huh?

let the music play is one of the few freestyle joints i ever really dug, as a song and the beats are dope. you engineered it? i got a lot of break dance mileage out of that song. . thanks.

[paultools]

Naw, can't take credit for that one, and that record was Ligget/Barbosa...

Arthur Baker had an engineer with the initials A.W....

[anonymousbeats]

So its an 808 on the Planet rock song i see. Im tyring to make my 808 samples sound similar but just cant get it to sound close. Does anyone have samples that sound remotely similar to the drums in planet rock. I know its a snare and a clap. and i also know i wont get the exact sound becuz it would be impossible to recreate it exactly im just looking for similar sound.

I would sample the snare and clap but theres no good spot in the song to do that without getting voices or other instruments.

[anonymousbeats]

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[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by anonymousbeats

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Read this great interview with Man Parrish:

MAN PARRISH : INTERVIEW


MAN PARRISH : INTERVIEW

[anonymousbeats]

So i take it the drums where prbly tuned or altered in sum type of way cuz i cant put the 808 snare and clap together and it sound the same as theres. It seems like there is a major differnce in pitch when it comes to that.

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by anonymousbeats

So i take it the drums where prbly tuned or altered in sum type of way cuz i cant put the 808 snare and clap together and it sound the same as theres. It seems like there is a major differnce in pitch when it comes to that.

What are you using for the 808 sound, samples, virtual or the real deal? On the 808 theres lots of options for tune and decay etc. If you are using samples, check the link to rebirth earlier in this thread, its free. Other than that all I can think of is to try to get a dedicated sample set with lots of diferent settings sampled.

[Barznbeats1]

Originally Posted by Joseph Reeves

YouTube - Shannon "Let the Music Play" REALLY? the only thing that sounds remotely 808-ish to me is the Rimshot/woodblocks....

THIS IS MY SH*T!

[superjc]

Because of the "tone" controls on each 808 sound, there are a million possibilities of combinations of snare/clap. Plus the sound of his preamps, console, 2" tape etc. Sample them yourself if you gotta have that sound, they are even in the NI Battery 2 library You'll only be producer #285,279 to do it.

[anonymousbeats]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

What are you using for the 808 sound, samples, virtual or the real deal? On the 808 theres lots of options for tune and decay etc. If you are using samples, check the link to rebirth earlier in this thread, its free. Other than that all I can think of is to try to get a dedicated sample set with lots of diferent settings sampled.

Im using real 808 samples i know i gotta have at least 300 to 400 808 samples i even got nepheton and rebirth. Wat ever they used to make their 808s to sound that way is crazy. cuz to me the 808s dont have the same clap sound. i will try my hardest to put up maybe a cut out of the snare and clap. Its not soo much that i wanna use them in my production i just want a understanding you know.. its just one of those things that keep me up all night.

[paultools]

Anon-

They actually used very little... they had very little to use!
Might have been a MCI 500 or 600 series... I think Arthur eventually bought a Trident 80 series.... but those sounds are very nearly STOCK 808... a little EQ, reverb and compression. You might just be over-doing it!

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by paultools

I think Arthur eventually bought a Trident 80 series....

It was actually an SSL.

[paultools]

An SSL for PR mix, or that Arthur eventually bought?
I know he had an Trident initially, but I think PR was before he got his own place... Intergalactic???

[thethrillfactor]

Originally Posted by paultools

An SSL for PR mix, or that Arthur eventually bought?
I know he had an Trident initially, but I think PR was before he got his own place... Intergalactic???

That he eventually bought.

Planet Rock, Bebop don't stop, I.O.U.,Planet Patrol, One more Shot, Funky Soul Makosa, All Night Passion,TooTurned On,were all done i think at the old Vanguard Studios the studio for the Vanguard record label.

Lots of the old New York scene recorded there in the late 70's early 80's like Joan Baez, Joe Jackson, Country Joe & the Fish.

Mark Berry was the house engineer there(yes the same A&R Mark Berry) and he engineered alot of those records.

I think these days he is heading the Attack multimedia companies.

[analogbass]

The drums on Planet Rock are stock and available on hundreds of records; there's absolutely nothing unusual about them. Very little processing, just a touch here and there.

Find better samples, or email me and i'll give you a source for buying the 12" with an instrumental side that can be used for sampling.

Honestly the sounds couldn't be more straightforward i'm not sure why you're befuddled.

[anonymousbeats]

OK so i was able to find the instrumental and cut out a sample of the drums and i have a version of mine and mb you all could tell methe differnce and wat was used to get the tuning. the first 2 are from planet rock and the second is my 808 snare and clap.
Now i could just use those sounds i just wanna know how they possible achieved that tuning. maybe some one could try and do it with thier own samples and post them? e gl

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by anonymousbeats

OK so i was able to find the instrumental and cut out a sample of the drums and i have a version of mine and mb you all could tell methe differnce and wat was used to get the tuning. the first 2 are from planet rock and the second is my 808 snare and clap.
Now i could just use those sounds i just wanna know how they possible achieved that tuning. maybe some one could try and do it with thier own samples and post them? e gl

You need to remember that what you hear on the record is mixed and it wont sound the same as the raw straight out of the box 808 sound. If you eq what you got you´ll get close. Listen to the clap from planet rock it has much less of the low left in than the raw 808 clap i.e filter that out, now listen to the top, does it sound dull? if so add some treble.

[paultools]

Originally Posted by anonymousbeats

i just wanna know how they possible achieved that tuning. maybe some one could try and do it with thier own samples and post them? e gl

You can't tune the samples to get those variables... you have to use and actual 808 to get the other parameters such as decay.... maybe you could get your hands on an actual 808 to learn this.... or do some research online to understand how 808 drum machines are programmed.

[BoogieMatic]

Here's a few tips:
To achieve the same sound with samples you'll need access to an 808 sample library that contains every possible variation of the 808 sounds.

Or, You could try some software with an 808 emulator, like Rebirth. (has the same buttons & knobs as the 808)

The sound you're looking for is achieved by tweaking the "Decay, Tuning, Tone, & Snappy" knobs on the 808. (among other things)

You can try doing these things to your samples to obtain similar results.

Years ago I had an 808 & I re-created the Planet Rock beat. It's really quite simple. (If you have an 808)

p.s. Most people don't know that Egyptian Lover also used an 808 for many of his popular hits.

Here's a cheat that many people use. Take the original Planet Rock beat, chop it up into samples, create a drum kit & Voila!

If you "really" want to cheat, do it with Recycle!

Good Luck, B. Matic

[analogbass]

Originally Posted by anonymousbeats

OK so i was able to find the instrumental and cut out a sample of the drums and i have a version of mine and mb you all could tell methe differnce and wat was used to get the tuning. the first 2 are from planet rock and the second is my 808 snare and clap.
Now i could just use those sounds i just wanna know how they possible achieved that tuning. maybe some one could try and do it with thier own samples and post them? e gl

The main difference is the tuning, but it should be possible to get close if not exactly the same. To get it close would probably have to sample the real thing or get a good sample that is already close to what you want.

[Methlab]

Hang on, you got Nepheton and you are having trouble still? Just curious, because I thought that thing was supposed to be a close to dead on emu of the 808. And it is synthesized so the samples can easily be pitched around.

I don't think it would be that hard to recreate those sounds with Nepheton and some EQ taking out the lows....just my opinion.

[tommygee]

The kick in Planet rock is an 808 kick layered with a synth resonance sweep. That meaning a resonance filter overdriven to create a sinewave that is modulated by an envelope.

[Fredrik]

I got to stop reading this forum.